Why the Political Forum?

[quote]Kuz wrote:
And your point would be? FYI, at the time that people believed that, there were not several billion people on the planet, but that aside…[/quote]

I don’t know how many people were on the planet at that time or any other and I don’t think that you do, either. However, I’m pretty sure that accepted scientific doctrine would have it that there were at least several billion people on this planet 500-1000 years ago.

My point was that you are a lunatic by virtue of your populist beliefs. I mean this in a literal sense. Populist doctrines are endlessly amusing because one can always find at least several million people to support any notion, no matter how idiotic. And whichever populist cause you end up supporting, there will always be another population of millions or billions who do not subscribe to your particular view. Thus, by the standards of hundreds of millions of people, you are either completely wrong, a lunatic, or worse, a heretic, depending on the view in question.

This is the fate of all populist ideologues. Fun with statistics. A template for mental masturbation: Did you know that [insert number with no literal value, only abstract] believe [insert any notion that you can think of]?

This inherent conundrum might well lead to spontaneous combustion of populist ideologues [one can only hope!] if not for their universal defense mechanism of hermetically sealing themselves within their own microcosms of belief (read:ignorance).

You, therefore, are one of these hermits, a virtual slave to your habitat, whereas I am an untethered traveler and surveyor of the universe around me.

I can hardly bring myself to address your inquiries in the plane of their conception, for I have seen far too much to limit myself in such a way. I have been kicked off other forums for expressing views that would have made me popular on this one. I have seen dozens of “microcosm majorities”, ubiquitous in their own spheres of influence yet completely unmentioned or even contradicted in others. Perhaps with this bit of insight, you might understand why I cannot lend the slightest hint of credence to any populist or collectivist ideology, even for a second. But if you can’t, it is no matter. In your world, I am the man who knew too much…

[quote]Kuz wrote:
It’s easy to believe one dominates if you create a world in your own head where you are clearly right on every point you make…[/quote]

That’s a difficult quality to attribute to me considering that I largely deal with what I am given on this forum. It should be noted that total domination of the substantial sort is uniplanar. What this means is that I get off on beating people at their own level - not by pontificating miles above them, as is my natural tendancy. Like Lucifer, I descend from the heavens to embroil myself within the chaos and ignorance of the masses far below.

[quote]Kuz wrote:
I think it’s painfully apparent that you have not convinced another soul on these forums of that fact.[/quote]

I’m not trying to convince anyone of anything on this forum. Rather, they are the ones who have convinced me of their own pitiful state of ignorance and hopelessness. However, to stick with my theme of uniplanar domination, consider the following rumination on your line of thought:

Just how many people on this forum have convinced others of anything which they did not already believe? I certainly can’t name any examples; can you? Most of the discussions go round and round in circles, bringing up the same points of contention and inevitably leading to the same dead ends. In the realm of creation, I am every bit as much of a failure as every other poster on this forum - no more, no less; I cannot create or endow my own qualities of intelligence within another.

The difference between myself and others is that I do not try to. I am an angel of destruction, not creation. I recognize that ignorance is incurable and thus, creation impossible. Destruction is the only solution, and I both excel and revel in it. What does it mean to be a failure in the impossible? Why, it means success of course! I am the most successful poster on this forum. And if anybody else knew it, it wouldn’t be true.

A final thought:
Truth is my vitality.
The absence of truth, [commonly refered to as ignorance], yours.

We cannot coexist any more than truth and ignorance.

The supreme irony of the universe is that we do.

I enjoy reading just about everyone who posts on the political threads! In fact, there are only two regulars that in my opinion don’t belong here. And no, vroom is not one of them.

I call vroom a liberal on occasion because that is how I see his particular slant on things over all. However, if we were all to be very honest I think he has written some very good posts in the past.

Just think about the conflicting styles that we have on this forum. That is one of the things that make it quite interesting.

Little Al’s mommy and daddy finally let him play on the computer this weekend.

I agree with vroom. Somebody get a picture of this, because it only happens every 76 years, or so.

We can ALL agree on at least one thing.

I wish the mods would hurry up with the ignore function, I can’t wait to try it out on ‘little .9 banana-boy’.

That is a pretty narrow viewpoint. Some purposes for discussion include:

  1. Entertainment.
  2. Consolidation of opinion for self.
  3. Possible influence of others.

As for number three, I doubt you truly have any idea how many people have altered their opinions because of discussions on this site.

I know from time to time my stance on something has become more conservative on an issue, though I hardly am going to trumpet this fact while in the midst of a heated discussion.

Also, there are a lot of people that read the site but that are not posting. People who are absorbing the viewpoints of all parties and possibly making up their minds in the process.

There is no realistic way to ascertain that number or the importance of the process to those people.

Al

Start coming from a different angle brother. Your act is old as vaudeville.

“i’m so smart, the masses are so dumb”
“the masses believe this to be true so it must not be”
“i must talk down to you, otherwise you wouldn’t/couldn’t understand me”
“i’m always right”
“truth is my savior”

All very ‘done to death’ Al

How 'bout you come back with something interesting and relative to your next argument. Your crap comes froma good astrology reading–one size fits all.

You’re a scrawny little kid who’s persona is bigger than his body. You can’t even live up to yourself anymore so you regeritate the same nonsense over and over and over.

It was actually pretty cute for a while, now it’s just old.

[quote]Mufasa wrote:
To add to some things others have said… there are two things that I absolutely hate!

They are:
2) “Rainman” arguments (being “called out” or criticized for something you didn’t say or being characterized as someone you are not because of a viewpoint).

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Is this in reference to me?

He’s BAAAaaaack!!!

(I STILL think Al is TC or Shugs!)

Just kidding…!

Mufasa

Al - that was fantastic stuff. I make a single comment about how you only dominate in your own mind and one would think someone else might notice your dominating if you were doing so… and now I am a populist and a hermit slave. LOL

Enjoy hanging yourself with your own rope, kid.

Kuz

RJ:

Did I miss something?

I can’t recall being “rain-manned” by you…

Did you?

Mufasa

[quote]Mufasa wrote:
RJ:

Did I miss something?

I can’t recall being “rain-manned” by you…

Did you?
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I thought you were naming the tactic after me.

Maybe I’m just paranoid.

STRAW manned…!!!

(Dang!)

Mufasa

Sorry, RJ!!!

This has been some kind of weird “mental fart” on my part… calling “Strawman” arguments “Rainman” arguments!

LOL!

I hadn’t thought about one thinking that it could have been directed at you!

Mufasa

[quote]Mufasa wrote:
Sorry, RJ!!!

This has been some kind of weird “mental fart” on my part… calling “Strawman” arguments “Rainman” arguments!

LOL!Mufasa

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I think this might be more Freudian than you are willing to admit

We don’t call rainjack “rainman” for nothing y’know… :wink:

“…I think this might be more Freudian than you are willing to admit …”

LOL!

Mufasa

[quote]vroom wrote:
We don’t call rainjack “rainman” for nothing y’know… ;)[/quote]

and here I thought you were trying to say he was brilliant with numbers but a little slow everywhere else?

Joe, that works too…

I have yet to give an answer, kind of late to the thread, but I’ll throw something in:

I enjoy the debate. Simply put, you never get any better if you never step outside your comfort zone and have your beliefs challenged. Always ‘swimming in you own juices’ - ie, hanging out with people who think exactly like you and nod in approval when you open your mouth - is no way to live the examined life.

And, it’s a good time. The characters around here are often interesting people from very different places. And for me, I can have politics stop at the edge - I have only a handful of conservative friends, the rest range from European Social Democrat to moderate American Democrat. With the exception of extremists - left and right - rarely does someone’s political affiliation affect whether or not I consider them good people or a friend.

“…Simply put, you never get any better if you never step outside your comfort zone and have your beliefs challenged. Always “swimming in you own juices” - ie, hanging out with people who think exactly like you and nod in approval when you open your mouth - is no way to live the examined life…”

Outstanding, 'Bolt…my feelings exactly!

Mufasa

[quote]Mufasa wrote:
“…Simply put, you never get any better if you never step outside your comfort zone and have your beliefs challenged. Always “swimming in you own juices” - ie, hanging out with people who think exactly like you and nod in approval when you open your mouth - is no way to live the examined life…”

Outstanding, 'Bolt…my feelings exactly!

Mufasa
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Gotta second over here!