Why the mantra "get stronger to get bigger" is bad advice and how strength training infiltrated bodybuilding

I feel a little different on the definition of a bodybuilder. I hadn’t been lifting weights for two months, before I played the mental game of comparing my physique to who I believed had the best physique in the gym.

My personal thought was that was the day I became a bodybuilder. I continued that mental competition the entire time until an autoimmune disease stopped me competing as a bodybuilder by either an official sanctioned bodybuilding contest or my mental contest.

I won’t push my definition on anyone else, but I will not be convinced that my definition was inaccurate for me.

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Definitely. No one who’s been involved in this stuff for 20 years argues over dumb shit that aggressively. Over the years weve all experimented, been humbled, learned and eventually reach a conclusion that there’s a thousand ways to skin a cat.

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Unless, of course, that person is looking to make a buck by convincing gullible people that there IS only one true way, and they just happen to know what it is, haha.

If you have never competed in a Bodybuilding contest, you are not a bodybuilder. You are just a guy that goes to the gym.

If you have never entered a race ,then you are not a runner. You are just a guy that runs.

I could go on and on……but I believe you guys get my point.

Yup. You gotta play the game to be a player OF the game. You aren’t a basketball player if you go to the court and drill, shoot free throws, run, etc, but never actually play a game. You aren’t a boxer if you go to the gym and hit mitts, pads and spar but never actually fight a match. And these aren’t badges of honor to hold these titles: they’re just the proper classification of things.

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Yeah that was another red flag I picked up on.

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Which is a possibility…

He definitely picked the wrong crowd .

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Eh…I think he went PT Barnum here. He got a bunch of traffic and was able to get people to discuss his idea. Kinda like @TrainForPain pointing out Cunningham’s Law: this most likely went exactly how he wanted.

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Yeah i get what your saying… negative or positive he got the view and attention he wanted.

Even if he knew he was full of shit.

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Most trolls have real-life personality disorders. But that certainly does not apply to this guy, who was either a bot or a winning individual who nevertheless spent three days online continually arguing a point of great importance.

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The Atlantic looks like it is ten years behind the times… (gift link)

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If you don’t like clicking links, here is an excerpt from the above article. Unfortunately, it does not address the greatest issues of our time - whether powerlifters need to compete and whether strength training is infiltrating bodybuilding.

Body-composition researchers have established that a surplus of calories, plus resistance training, is required to gain muscle. The basic idea is that repetitive exercise causes muscles to break down, so the body needs energy and additional nutrients to build them back bigger and stronger. But spending months “dirty” bulking, as the ice-cream-and-burgers method is sometimes called, can also generate huge amounts of fat. Bodybuilders traditionally starved that fat off in the subsequent cutting phase, a period of caloric restriction that can last just as long as the bulk.

But these days, Big Dru and his fellow muscle-maxxing enthusiasts are embracing a new approach: moderation. At a time when celebrities, wellness influencers, and the nation’s top health officials are proclaiming the evils of processed foods, many bodybuilders—professionals like Big Dru, but also young, shirtless amateurs documenting their gains online—are leaving the old way of bulking behind.

On gym-bro social media, the hashtag #leanbulk is ubiquitous. (So is #cleanbulk, used interchangeably.) The term broadly refers to working out while consuming only slightly more calories than the body needs to maintain itself, and getting those calories from healthy sources. A [typical]. (TikTok - Make Your Day) lean-bulking TikTok features a young man showing off a comically ripped six-pack and C-cup pecs while meticulously documenting the food that fueled them: cottage cheese and eggs, sweet potatoes and tuna, berries and almonds, but never Twinkies.

“The paradigm has definitely shifted,” Guillermo Escalante, a kinesiology professor at California State University at San Bernardino and a competitive bodybuilder, told me. The concept of clean bulking emerged in the past decade or so, but it took off only recently, he said. The trend partly reflects the bodybuilding community catching up to the science. A 2020 review found that, for all but the most elite athletes, the body needs roughly 10 percent more calories to gain muscle than it does to maintain itself—certainly not anywhere near 10,000 calories. Beyond that point, research suggests, any extra calories are stored as fat. That not only obscures your gains but can hinder their growth: Working off fat sacrifices some lean muscle, Escalante said. Muscle growth can also be inhibited by the downstream effects of excess fat, such as insulin resistance and the release of inflammatory molecules, Brad Schoenfeld, an exercise-science professor at Lehman College, told me.

Read her Bio… she tried. But it felt like she was out of her lane slightly.

Great post, I have embraced this style of training the last few months, lots of 12,15, even 20 rep sets and lighter weight pump sets after my main sets recently. Embraced machines and bands as well and am having great results, less fatigue, and staying injury free most importantly. My joints feel so much better. Leg extension has done more for my quads than front squats ever did in the past.

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