Why the mantra "get stronger to get bigger" is bad advice and how strength training infiltrated bodybuilding

It was not made up. "
It is the implicit meaning that has become accepted.” The Gatekeeper

You can quote me on that.

Damn, we have a lot of powerlifters around the world.

Just think how many has tried Starting Strength around the world. Not to mention most athletes, crossfitters etc.

It might be one of the biggest sports around.

Cunningham’s Law. Absolutely on display.

I am debating how much longer we let him run with it myself.

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Earlier you tried to call me a social justice warrior and I pointed out how it was a projection. You didn’t even know powerlifting inherited the traditions from Olympic lifting since it didn’t invent pressing strength.

Calling competition standards “proof” of identity completely misses the point. I didn’t say judging is irrelevant, I said you’re treating external validation as what makes someone a powerlifter, rather than the act of training and striving for strength in the squat, bench, and deadlift itself. Judges and federations only certify performance; they don’t create the identity. By that logic, nobody would be a runner unless they ran a sanctioned race, nobody a guitarist unless they performed in a judged recital.

Consider taking some courses in logic

I find this whole debate hilarious.

I’ve couple times tried to be serious. These posts are of course completely ignored by OP.

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Saying “Cunningham’s Law” is basically shorthand for “I don’t want to admit you’re right,” which is amusing, but it doesn’t change the fact that my argument stands on logic, not trickery.

You’re the one who thinks there’s no such thing as powerlifting methodology and needs the external validation of some judges to be able to say they’re a powerlifter.

Thank you for admitting that there’s a lot of powerlifters who don’t compete. I think we’re making progress

I forgot to call the basketball players I met today powerlifters. I’ll try to remember next time.

I like basketball, but I honestly think that weightlifting is my favorite form of powerlifting to follow.

Thank you for admitting that there’s a lot of powerlifters who don’t compete. I think we’re making progress…

Haha you’re so pitiful you have to purposely ignore my sarcasm in context in order to feel as if there’s an ounce of logic to anything you’re saying for a cheap victory. That’s a new intellectual low for you.

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False equivalence lol

You are stuck on this accusation. I never viewed competition as external validation. I took as a level playing field.

IMO, it is impossible to have a level playing field without external judging.

You need to drop that broken record nonsense.

I’m pointing out that you treat competition as the defining factor of identity, which is external validation. A level playing field ensures fairness within a contest, but it doesn’t dictate who is a powerlifter outside of that contest.

This isn’t hard

You make it awfully hard.

Can you please respond to the longer post I made you earlier? There I explained the problem with your thinking. If you have decent point to define excact point between general strength training and powerlifting, I’m happy to hear it.

Unless you seriously think everyone who trains SBD in some form are powerlifters. Because that definition is terrible.

I’ve never seen it happen, but someone has had to of done a double at a meet. Either to be a dick, or just slipped their minds and tried to do 2 reps. It sounds absurd, but somewhere out there, there must be a video of a person doing a successful double at a meet.

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I remember seeing a case that someone did a triple for show off. Three red lights of course.

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Do you wait extra long between your last squat attempt and first Bench attempt to emulate all the Bench only classes?

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For every training session you’ll need a partner to time, judge and shout commands.

I have never said that. I am saying that there has always been an implicit understanding that a Powerlifter competes in Powerlifting meets. And the person is not generally considered a Powerlifter until they enter the battlefield.

Your only valid argument is that I am a gatekeeper.