lol well, he hasn’t offered to get his crayons and explain things in a simpler manner yet
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lol well, he hasn’t offered to get his crayons and explain things in a simpler manner yet
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That dude doesn’t even know what powerlifting is given his weak analogy. That analogy doesn’t land, because being a “cat” isn’t a practice, it’s a biological species. Powerlifting, on the other hand, is an activity defined by behavior and training method.
I was being sarcastic, I didn’t powerlift at 10. But by your logic if all you ever did was pull 135 in a meet and never competed, then that’s the strongest you have ever been. ![]()
Actually I think you’ll find you did that, I was merely replying to you.
Yes, what you do being compete in powerlifting. Someone who deadlifts benches and squats is not a powerlifter, just a gym goer, probably a strength enthusiast.
I think we’re at an impasse where you refuse the general definition that most on the forums do, but check the majority, check the dictionary, and feel free to carry on in your opinion if that makes you happy.
Powerlifting isn’t a practice it’s a competition.
Oh so the guy running a bodybuilding program and the other guy running Sheiko or Conjugate are both just gym goers. Absolutely no difference in their training methods.
Bravo, flawless logic. Do you even know the difference between training for bodybuilding and powerlifting?
Guys like Paul Anderson, Doug Hepburn, and Bob Peoples were chasing massive 1RMs decades before the first official meet in 1964. What were they doing “unregulated hip hinging”?
By your logic, Paul Anderson wasn’t a powerlifter, he was just “experimenting with lower-body gravitational resistance.”
Of course there are, they train in styles suited to certain activities, no one has denied that, you are drawing inferences I am not making.
You aren’t arguing in good faith, if that continues I’m done.
Ah yes, when the logic runs out it suddenly becomes “you’re not in good faith”.
Since you just admitted that training styles exist, then you just admitted that powerlifting is also a practice and not merely a competition. Case closed
Bodybuilding purist? Or cat?
I like chicken
I like liver
Meow meow meow meow
Please deliver
(Found by playing J. Geils Band’s record No Anchovies Please backwards:
It doesn’t take a genius to know the difference between chicken sh^t and chicken salad.)
Sorry I’m not a bodybuilder anymore, my last competition was 2012. Even though I still do bodybuilding training, I’m not a bodybuilder. Maybe I’ll be one again next week when I sign up.
Sorry buddy, you’re not a powerlifter today. Your meet was yesterday. You have been demoted to a general strength trainer until you step on that platform again.
It’s good you can admit this to yourself. Apparently it has been a tough pill to swallow.
It does not make your post bodybuilding career achievements any less valuable. Remember that.
Haha you’re so pitiful you have to purposely ignore my sarcasm in context in order to feel as if there’s an ounce of logic to anything you’re saying for a cheap victory. That’s a new intellectual low for you.
You’re not a powerlifter. Do you have a meet today? If no, sit down you average gym goer. The only way you can even talk to me about powerlifting is while you’re standing on that platform deadlifting.
Didn’t you say earlier you were going to send me some books on powerlifting? Yeah, gotta be while you’re on the platform.
From here on out, if you don’t have a powerlifting meet today, you cannot give powerlifting advice because you are not a powerlifter until then. Unless you’re standing on that platform and on these forums typing out your reply, you are not qualified as a powerlifter to give advice on it. Oh and it has to be IPF, USAPL doesn’t count because it got expelled by it.
He was a weightlifter. And a professional strongman.
Sounds familiar… I vaguely remember. I just cant recall the name of invidual you are referencing. ![]()
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Not at all you are drawing inferences I’m not making, that is not logic running out I’m merely setting the boundaries by which in willing to continue engaging, that also includes goading, not down with that either.
As to your methodology = classification arguement, while powerlifting style training can exist independently, powerlifting as a practice — the thing that defines the identity of “a powerlifter” — is inherently competitive. The distinction between training style and practice identity is categorical, not semantic.
Relax. I was just teasing you a little bit.
I’ll explain one more time why I think defining powerlifting by competing is superior to your proposition.
It’s pretty easy to say if one is competing or not. Even there might be borderline cases. But generally it’s quite easy to define.
Following powerlifting methodology is not easy to define. Things you listed (weak points assistance, periodisation, overload) are present in ALL strength training in some way or another. Maybe even in all training.
So, Strength training and hypertrophy training have some general principles which we all follow in a way or another.
Specificity tells what the training is geared towards. Hypertrophy training can be geared towards bodybuilding, or towards powerlifting. Strength training can be geared towards strongman etc…
But there is no hard point when general strength training turns to powerlifting training. Not every powerlifter uses a clear program labelled as “powerlifting program”
in their meet prep. Some use really specific powerlifting training, some less specific. They are powerlifters nonetheless since they’re aiming to do total in a meet.
Therefore saying that methodology defines powerlifting means that we can’t ever be completely sure who is a “non-competitive” powerlifter and who is not.
With the competition approach you don’t have this problem.
Your proposition is even more problematic when you claim that gym lifts are comparable to meet lifts. It would make whole sport obsolete. And if you think they’re comparable you should try powerlifting.
So anybody can do powerlifting training, but they’re not powerlifters unless they’re ready express their strength in a judged competition. It does not change how strong they are (or aren’t), but they’re not powerlifters.
He was also a powerlifter. He trained and performed feats that looked exactly like what later became powerlifting, massive squats, deadlifts, and presses done for maximal strength.
You’re not standing on a platform right now, so you’re not a powerlifter. Doesn’t count.