So you define powerlifting based on just the use of a barbell? Now I see why you believe there’s no universal objective methodology. You can’t make this up
If he stepped into the ring in a sanctioned fight, then he would be boxer. So you would get beaten by another boxer ?
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I define it by competing.
You listed a bunch or criteria before.
The problems are:
A) some of the criteria you posted are used in strength training generally. Which makes you wonder are all strength trainers powerlifters.
B) Some criteria you listed aren’t used by all powerlifters. That makes you wonder if they are powerlifters even when they compete.
But I need to sleep now. Maybe I see some of the powerlifterbasketballplayers tomorrow at the gym.
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All the soccer moms doing boxercise class are…boxers?
I don’t remember the seeing cable crossovers as a meet.
Forget sanctioned fights. The one who trains like a boxer but never competes would hold his own in a street fight. No one would doubt that he’s a boxer
Yes. Remember that they don’t need judges to validate themselves. 
The cable crossover thing isn’t a good argument. There’s more that goes into powerlifting besides a barbell without comparing it to cable crossovers
That would make him a Streetfighter. Which leads to an important question. Is he Ryu, Blanka or E Honda ?
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Look what I found. “International Powerlifting Federation (IPF) has faced allegations of corruption, particularly concerning its anti-doping policies. In 2021, the World Powerlifting organization, which comprises 38 member federations, accused the IPF of “anomalies, injustices, and corruption” within its anti-doping system.”
”In 2021, the World Powerlifting organization accused the IPF of “anomalies, injustices, and corruption” in its anti-doping system, suggesting that tests and sanctions were not always applied fairly or transparently.”
Imagine being beholden to a corrupt federation to be able to identify as a powerlifter.
Only by your made up definition.
What does that matter? He may be the best boxer of all time and go undefeated, but if he never steps into the ring for a real match, he’s not a boxer.
But you’re projecting that I’m making up definitions when that’s exactly what you’re doing with the barbell analogy. I simply quoted numerous powerlifting coaches regarding powerlifting methodology. I didn’t pull it out of thin air
Numerous coaches said there are more than barbells in a powerlifting competition? I’m at a loss.
Trying to steer this ship back around. I know you talked about how you train and why you train the way you do, for pure hypertrophy and any strength is secondary. What did your last training session look like? Can you post it? I’m not being a dick. Not looking to poke holes in it. I’m honestly curious what it is.
”You’re not a legitimate powerlifter until you compete in something like the USAPL. But the USAPL is not legitimate according to the IPF.”
Legs (Wednesday, Saturday)
Hack Squat 5
Romanian Deadlift 4
Leg extension 4
Seated Leg Curl 4
Standing Calf Raise 6
Cable Crunch 6
The numbers are sets i’m assuming. Everything in the 9-12 reps range to failure? You don’t log the weight used?
Yes, the numbers are sets. Those are the most important numbers to keep track of because they are the dose of stimulus. 9-12 rep range to failure if possible. Sometimes I forget to add the weight I added previously and overshoot to 15 reps to failure. I don’t log the weight or reps used.
Effective reps cap at 9-12 reps to failure so 15 reps to failure isn’t gonna hurt anything, but still a necessity to avoid sandbagging if I didn’t get the weight right.
Deeper sure is on mark.
By today’s standard I would bet that I never used powerlifting methodology for any Powerlifting meet or Bench Press contest together that I competed in. Would I then be a Competition Only Powerlifter to properly classify me?
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Powerlifting methodology isn’t a requirement to be a powerlifter, because I would agree that a grandma benching the bar in a meet would be a powerlifter too. But at the same time I’m not going to exclude those who do train with powerlifting methodology and don’t compete. So my view supports both of our points at the same time without excluding one or the other.
One of my previous replies earlier was a link to the IPF suspending the USAPL for drug testing. ”You’re not a legitimate powerlifter until you compete in something like the USAPL. But the USAPL is not legitimate according to the IPF.” I’m just against putting all my eggs into one basket.
Do you just remember what weight you used last? How do you know what to put on the bar if you never track it? Or do you feel the weight out every single training session in an RPE style?
Do you drop the weight each set such that you can still reach the 9-12 range ? If you truly reach failure on hack squat at rep 9 in set 1. How are you doing 4 more sets of the same ?
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