[quote]BCFlynn wrote:
Think about how stupid the average person is an realize 1/2 the people are dumber than that.
Never underestimate the power of a large group of stupid people.
Mitt Romney was the single most qualified candidate since at least Ronald Reagan. He has no skeletons, is a good family man. Was highly successful as a businessman, as a governor (don’t be fooled him losing, MA is moonbat central, even more liberal than SF) and he ran the olympics.
He was in a no win situation. Being a Republican today is like trying to make a living in a casino. The game is completely rigged against you.
The press
Minorities and Immigrants
Gen Y Everyone gets a trophy mentality has led to a complete generation of people who feel they are entitled without working. Instant gratification from the internet, phones, twitter, facebook, is killing this country. you don’t have to work for anything.
Abortion Roe V Wade is NEVER going to get overturned, but the scare tactics are always there. Sandra Fluke was a 30 year old law student who CHOSE Georgetown and knew it was a Jesuit university. Catholic law doesn’t believe in contraception. She knew this and tried to make trouble. And Rush and the Republicans fell for it hook, line and sinker. Look at her, no guy would bang her.
Independents. Most are left of center and were Democrats previously.
Woman If Romney had done the right thing and called Obama a liar about benghazi like he should, he would have looked like a bully in the eyes of woman.
Getting out the vote. The Republicans foolishly fell into the “everyone get out and vote.” wrong, wrong, wrong.
Early voting. Look if you can’t get out and vote on election day, get an absentee ballot. Early voting leads to irregularities and shenanigans. Wheeling in bums off the street, etc
No ID, I could walk into a poll give my Democratic neighbors address, and use up his vote, than go in 2 weeks later, give my address and vote again. You don’t think this happened? Think again.
I’ve never been less proud of being an American than I was yesterday. [/quote]
And yet, these oppressed and misunderstood Republicans who can’t catch a break control the House.
Up here in the People’s Republic, we have a congressman whose wife was the money launder for her family’s illegal gambling ring. The congressman, would not discuss it in debates, no showed for debates. And got re-elected. We had a Republican senator who voted bi partisan over 50% of the time.
Good family man, rose up through the ranks of state government. Lost to a Harvard professor, who lied about being a Cherokee, wouldn’t let any one interview her in her house. When she finally did and was asked about any Indian heirlooms, denied and wouldn’t show it. Union members had to work her campaign stops as “community service” or wouldn’t get paid, taught one class at Harvard at $350k a year.
Flipped foreclosed houses in Oklahoma, fought a class action suit for asbestos victims where they got $5k she got $250k. Fought against coal mine workers in West VA. Thought Western Mass had a shore line. When asked who she could be bi partisan with, mentioned Dick Lugar, who voted with his party 86% of the time and was ousted in the primary before she mentioned this. Yet she got elected by at least 5 points.
I look at 7.9% unemployment
$16 trillion in defecits
A shaky Middle East
Obamacare which will bankrupt this country
An economy puttering along at 1.5% growth.
If this guy were a CEO of a company or another job, he would have been fired for his job performance.
Disagree on CEO. Look at all the CEOs at the financial firms who ruined their business yet still have jobs.
I get it, trust me. We just need to do a much, much better job of reaching out and connecting with the average voter. And more importantly connecting with the 2/3 who didn’t vote.
[quote]BCFlynn wrote:
Think about how stupid the average person is an realize 1/2 the people are dumber than that.
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And this is a huge part of the Republican party. You can’t think that half of the country is stupid and expect to get anywhere in an election.
james [/quote]
Most R’s don’t think that way. BCFlynn is talking out his ass here. I need a sticky, “This opinion is not necessarily the opinion of Republicans or Conservatives everywhere.”
[quote]BCFlynn wrote:
Think about how stupid the average person is an realize 1/2 the people are dumber than that.
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And this is a huge part of the Republican party. You can’t think that half of the country is stupid and expect to get anywhere in an election.
james [/quote]
Most R’s don’t think that way. BCFlynn is talking out his ass here. I need a sticky, “This opinion is not necessarily the opinion of Republicans or Conservatives everywhere.”[/quote]
Either way, I have heard it many times before…as if all the stupid people voted for the other guy and all the smart people voted as he did.
The average person is…well, average. I would think most of the people on the site would fall into “average” category…especially guys who think that everyone in the other party is dumb.
[quote]atypical1 wrote:
Disagree on CEO. Look at all the CEOs at the financial firms who ruined their business yet still have jobs.
I get it, trust me. We just need to do a much, much better job of reaching out and connecting with the average voter. And more importantly connecting with the 2/3 who didn’t vote.
james[/quote]
I just hope in say, 2014 - 2015. No CEO gets a huge bonus while their company records another loss or worse fraud. We did just re-hire an under performing CEO, you have to admit that.
The fortune 500 might play BS games, but no small to medium size company will allow a CEO to run the business into the ground.
[quote]BCFlynn wrote:
Think about how stupid the average person is an realize 1/2 the people are dumber than that.
[/quote]
And this is a huge part of the Republican party. You can’t think that half of the country is stupid and expect to get anywhere in an election.
james [/quote]
Most R’s don’t think that way. BCFlynn is talking out his ass here. I need a sticky, “This opinion is not necessarily the opinion of Republicans or Conservatives everywhere.”[/quote]
Either way, I have heard it many times before…as if all the stupid people voted for the other guy and all the smart people voted as he did.
The average person is…well, average. I would think most of the people on the site wold fall into “average” category…especially guys who think that everyone in the other party is dumb.[/quote]
I think at time the interent is really good and exposing the fringe. Honestly most people aren’t going to argue about thier belief on the internet unless they enjoy it, which is why I’m here. Most people just want to live their life and be left alone.
BCFlynn said something stupid, he doesn’t represent the majoriy, but his voice is heard anyway, which is part of the reason the party is having issues.
Edit: agree on the average comment. I’ve ready/heard the same said about R’s and Bush. I try to ignore it.
It was a tongue in cheek remark on why Obama won. A joke, but by no means would I be considered on teh fringe. Talking out of my ass, sure, serious, no. The paragraph afterward was serious.
Get rid of EC system. Give Americans more choices than R or L. We had third party candidates but the debates were limited because of the media and private funding so there was no exposure. Both major parties are guilty of keeping Americans ignorant about the process. I think Gary Johnson would have done some good in office even if I didn’t agree with a lot of his other stances.
How do we get people to educate themselves when the media spouts out the same information all year long. I don’t think anyone really wanted Obama or Romney in office. No one was happy with this election, even if they were passionate about their vote. In the end people just end up defending a decision they didn’t thoughtfully make because they weren’t informed.
LOL. Why do I get the feeling that this made up the majority of the votes against alone?[/quote]
Because it is the same reason most of the votes against bush in 2004 went to Kerry, who is basically Mitt lite, and yet no one on the left had a problem attacking romney for his money.
Obama set in stone my conversion from American Liberal to conservativism (not to be confused with republican, they have work to do before I call myself one). I was drifting toward center anyway, but after him falling through on all of the reasons I voted for him, I looked around and realized I didn’t belong where I was. So, for that and a lot of reasons I have a love/hate relationship with the man.
I do think he is a shitty leader though, lied in 2008 like no other, is a hard line progressive and didn’t deserve another of my votes.
[quote]BCFlynn wrote:
It was a tongue in cheek remark on why Obama won. A joke, but by no means would I be considered on teh fringe. Talking out of my ass, sure, serious, no. The paragraph afterward was serious. [/quote]
It’s hard to tell on these forums when someone’s being serious and just trying to start shit. Anyway I think Romney is very qualified. I think he could use some more experience with foreign policy/affairs, but there isn’t much you can do in that regard except be president.
I do think he would make better decisions as far as the economy goes. I truly don’t believe Obama understands the business world. He has to rely on his advisors far more than Romney would in the sense that while Romney would need advisement for sure he wouldn’t also need explanation, which I think Obama does.