Ummm I have no problem buying some pretty good quality steaks/meat @ krogers. Especially when they have sales I can get T-Bone steaks for around 4-5 $/lb. Top sirloin round thin cut steaks are around 4 $ lb or so usually. Ground round/sirloin is always around 3 $ /lb.
Hell I’ll even go in the evenings at times and stuff that expires the next day will be discounted down big time (steaks/ground beef everything). I just make sure to cook it up that day or freeze it. Or I’ll talk to a guy back there and say “hey this stuffs going to expire tomorrow, think you could help me out?” =)
[quote]WalkingGunShow wrote:
I would like to point out the reliance of guns by youth and adults today. Fights now often end by someone saying, “o yeah, i got 9mm that says your not gonna fight me” or “guy goes to get a shotgun out of his truck”. Gangs fight with guns now to win by fear.
My point is, what ever happened to a solid fist fight, 10-20 years ago thats how things where settled among tough guys at school. Now everybody has a pistol somewhere, wtf is going on. On the same topic, what happened to one on one fights? Everybody getting beat up by a gang of people, nobody can handle their own problems anymore. A kid wanted to fight my brother one day over a girl and brought 3 people! Luckily i came in the car, and none of those other kids ever came out of the car. But, then again i wasnt planning on helping my brother unless the kid was completely wailing on him, because my brother needed to learn to solve his own problems. In other words if my brother couldnt back up his words, i would tell him, “you better either start working out with me or stop starting shit with people”.
[quote]Carlitosway wrote:
Ummm I have no problem buying some pretty good quality steaks/meat @ krogers. Especially when they have sales I can get T-Bone steaks for around 4-5 $/lb. Top sirloin round thin cut steaks are around 4 $ lb or so usually. Ground round/sirloin is always around 3 $ /lb.
Hell I’ll even go in the evenings at times and stuff that expires the next day will be discounted down big time (steaks/ground beef everything). I just make sure to cook it up that day or freeze it. Or I’ll talk to a guy back there and say “hey this stuffs going to expire tomorrow, think you could help me out?” =)[/quote]
I shop at Kroger’s every week. The guys there know me by name and usually have my “stack of steaks” ready for me when I show up on Friday. They have some of the best quality and best prices…but again, the shit is still very expensive unless you catch it on sale.
Also, something to consider is that this may not be much of a problem if you don’t eat that much. If you are going through 3lbs of steak a day at least (each steak is about a pound each), that means you are going through about 15 of them before the weekend so obviously even buying in bulk can take a hit if you run low and there are no sales going on.
I am also not complaining THAT much. I bought 15 bone out rib eyes this past weekend for 5 bucks a piece.
Watched Food, Inc. today and it would seem that our food is completely F’ed, not that I didn’t kind of realize that before. And also not that this necessarily even applies to the OP’s rant.
Being big is expensive and should probably be more expensive than it is. It’s good to keep in mind that we vote with our money. How and where we spend our money is what is truly our votes.
Where are all these pussies at? Sure theres a few passafists and wimps here and there, but around here there’s some rowdy and rough motherfuckers. I was in multiple fights as a teenager in the early 2000s and never caught in school, never arrested for it if it was out of school. I guess I’m lucky but there aren’t as many people calling cops and lawyers as some of you think. Granted as an adult things change, but as a grown up man, you shouldn’t be fighting anyways. That’s a last resort.
My grandfather always taught me that you weren’t a man unless you paid your own bills. No macho man bullshit, he is an old timer who grew up on a farm in rual GA in the 40s, and worked his ass off for everything he ever had. So maybe being a MAN is more about being financially independent and a good provider for your family, and not so much about being the masculine macho man portrayed by the media.
My grandfather was a pacifist, although that was after shooting germans in the only successful battle in Norway in WW2. He had killed enough.
I did a full contact sanda competition against a kickboxer 20lbs heavier than me, that gave a good feeling. Apart from sparring, there is the occasional psychopath at job that needs to be put in belts, so there is plenty of opportunity to test the limits.
Agreed. Sometimes the family needs to have a masculine reference point though.
[quote]espenl wrote:
My grandfather was a pacifist, although that was after shooting germans in the only successful battle in Norway in WW2. He had killed enough.
I did a full contact sanda competition against a kickboxer 20lbs heavier than me, that gave a good feeling. Apart from sparring, there is the occasional psychopath at job that needs to be put in belts, so there is plenty of opportunity to test the limits.
Agreed. Sometimes the family needs to have a masculine reference point though.[/quote]
I like you; your view on things that I have read so far is refreshing to see on this forum.
[quote]elano wrote:
So maybe being a MAN is more about being financially independent and a good provider for your family, and not so much about being the masculine macho man portrayed by the media.[/quote]
No, there is an absolute need for agression and intensity in a patriarch. I came from a family in which the father was a good provider, but had a weak, passive, timid personality. None of my siblings ever respected him because he did not command respect. Corruption flourished in the house as a result of having a parent whom nobody took seriously. To this day I believe we would have been better off with an absentee/alcoholic father than a spineless, emasculate wimp of one.
[quote]Spikeman wrote:
$2.21 for 1.2lb of 85/15 ground turkey here and $7.99 for 4lb of chicken. Yesterday a person was handing out vegan pamphlets to people and needless to say when I walked past him I told him “No thanks, I am a carnivore.” [/quote]
However, neither turkey nor chicken happen to be grade A steak.[/quote]
I agree with iflyboats. I believe that a real man is driven, confident, responsible, and compassionate. My father exemplified these things; he ran the show at home and the kids knew better than to disobey him. Or my mother for that matter… he wanted us to respect her and if we didn’t then we really caught it. And yes he used physical discipline, but we never doubted that he loved us. The buck stopped with him and he made the final decisions, but it wasn’t like he was a dictator. He wasn’t threatened by others offering their opinions; he took them into consideration and then made the decision. And I think one thing that set him apart from a lot of men is that he was big enough to admit when he was wrong. Too many men seem to think that admitting you made a mistake somehow diminishes you, but when you don’t get your self worth from what others think of you, it makes it much easier.
And here’s something just for Hellfrost: since you are so bent on using dictionary definitions, here’s one for your consideration -
Aggressive: Marked by obtrusive energy; marked by driving forceful energy or initiative
This is what the other posters were talking about. A lot of today’s men seem to lack the inner drive/initiative that is part of being masculine. They are complacently coasting through life instead of actively forging their own path. They are rafting down the river where it’s safe, instead of stepping out and exploring the jungle.
Haven’t read much of the bitching in the thread but regarding the meat issue, buy from your local butchers. I know where I live you can pretty much take it for granted that you will find high quality meat discounted at some butcher. Get to know where they are. I know of 6 within 20km radius that I visit and a couple more that I haven’t even been to yet. Grab your local newspaper and find who’s got what on special and when. Go buy and put in freezer.
Besides having quality meat on your menu for very affordable prices all year round, you’re also supporting some guys business rather than some supermarket chain.
[quote]elano wrote:
So maybe being a MAN is more about being financially independent and a good provider for your family, and not so much about being the masculine macho man portrayed by the media.[/quote]
No, there is an absolute need for agression and intensity in a patriarch. I came from a family in which the father was a good provider, but had a weak, passive, timid personality. None of my siblings ever respected him because he did not command respect. Corruption flourished in the house as a result of having a parent whom nobody took seriously. To this day I believe we would have been better off with an absentee/alcoholic father than a spineless, emasculate wimp of one. [/quote]
So are you saying that your father wasn’t a man because he didn’t have these qualities? Also why do these qualities need to be gender specific? I think saying that to be a man you must meet a certain criteria is pretty stupid. Have your own personal values and beliefs for your own reasons. It’s not the 1950s anymore.
[quote]elano wrote:
So maybe being a MAN is more about being financially independent and a good provider for your family, and not so much about being the masculine macho man portrayed by the media.[/quote]
No, there is an absolute need for agression and intensity in a patriarch. I came from a family in which the father was a good provider, but had a weak, passive, timid personality. None of my siblings ever respected him because he did not command respect. Corruption flourished in the house as a result of having a parent whom nobody took seriously. To this day I believe we would have been better off with an absentee/alcoholic father than a spineless, emasculate wimp of one. [/quote]
So are you saying that your father wasn’t a man because he didn’t have these qualities? Also why do these qualities need to be gender specific? I think saying that to be a man you must meet a certain criteria is pretty stupid. Have your own personal values and beliefs for your own reasons. It’s not the 1950s anymore. [/quote]
Men and women do not think exactly alike. Those hormones are there for a reason. People who try to act like gender is as of minor importance as hair color seem to not understand basic biology OR how women and men interact with each other.
Have you ever sat and listened to a group of women talk and then listened to a group of guys? you think those differences are all simply socially taught?
When I talk to my friends, their personal feelings rarely come up. We don’t talk about chocolate cake or how that new diet allows us to fit back into a size 10.
No, it isn’t the 1950’s anymore and this is not a discussion of women’s rights. No one is saying women are less than men. However, to deny that men are NOT women with dicks is socially retarded and part of the problem with society that we have talked about.
Regarding less expensive meat: Go look in the rural areas. There are always FFA, 4H or just farm kids raising cattle for money or experience. They generally sell the steers to local butchers. The steers are usually only fed grass, corn and water. No chemicals from the smaller operations. I buy a quarter steer from relatives every August for about $250 and it averages out to about a little over $2/lb with about 220lbs of meat. You get mostly hamburger (70%), but there are steaks and roasts in that as well. These butchers are in every small town in Michigan and Ohio. Just trying to help.
[quote]schultzie wrote:
What the fuck. I’m at the grocery store and i just want some god damned red meat in my diet but its all 10$ a fucking pound, when all the shitty soy garbage boxed shit is on deep discount. I’m coasting through the aisles in a sea of fat shitty weak people who stand in the god damned way.
Why is it that all the shit in life that makes you strong independent and not take any bullshit condemned? Why the fuck cant I grunt in the gym? Why the fuck do I have to even listen to one of my classmates talk to me about BOSU balls. I should be allowed to just be blunt and tell them that they are wrong and why they are wrong. But as soon as i fucking start to explain and disagree with them, they get scared and think im a verbal bully. Why the fuck is Tracy Anderson alive? What the fuck is wrong with music on the radio today?
I swear to god there has to be some kind of secret agenda, where they are recycling media and slowly lowering the quality of it in order to destroy your memory span. Then the vegetarian fucking agenda promotes a lifestyle and diet that destroys the male species and turns them into pussies, removing the most physically capable individuals. They put fucking flouride in our water so we are docile. People fucking suck. Why is it that the skinniest little fucking teenage faggots in the gym take the most time at the water fountain? Why dont they let me take a sip before they take 10 god damn minutes to fill up their water bottle? I imagine smashing their faces into the spout every time i have to wait behind these motherfuckers.
This thread is for ranting and being insensitive, because im sick of smiling and wearing khakis and being nice to people who need to get fucked. I cant even wear my Pantera shirt to college without people in my program thinking im some sort of serial killer.
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“For his actions during the battle, Ernest Smith became the only Canadian Private to win the Victoria Cross during World War II. He was informed of this honor by the Military Police, who were instructed to place him in jail in order to make sure he didn’t personally destroy the entire city of Naples with his insane partying.”
Men and women do not think exactly alike. Those hormones are there for a reason. People who try to act like gender is as of minor importance as hair color seem to not understand basic biology OR how women and men interact with each other.
Have you ever sat and listened to a group of women talk and then listened to a group of guys? you think those differences are all simply socially taught?
When I talk to my friends, their personal feelings rarely come up. We don’t talk about chocolate cake or how that new diet allows us to fit back into a size 10.
No, it isn’t the 1950’s anymore and this is not a discussion of women’s rights. No one is saying women are less than men. However, to deny that men are NOT women with dicks is socially retarded and part of the problem with society that we have talked about.[/quote]
No doubt hormones play a major role in the behavior differences between men and women. Kinda got of topic there I guess.
Walking gun show and others, great point about the guns totally agree , this also is definetly a contributing factor for decreased tolerance for confrontation.
Also really good discussion on manliness after that. This is awesome this thread finally turned into a really good discussion.
Dude who does sanda thats awesome I love combat sports as well. Every boy or man should compete in combat sports at least once it’s an excellent test and experience.
