Honestly if anyone wants a great bodybuilding experience hit up Samoa (Western not American). Fresh yellowfin tuna is $1 USD a pound. Papaya’s and Avocado’s grow on the trees. And they’ve got 4 gyms as well as an olympic training facility for powerlifting and olympic lifting. Their top sport they’ll say is Rugby but really they’ve probably had more success in boxing, bodybuilding, and olympic lifting. It was fuckin’ awesome and what got me started. I trained with their bodybuilding team, nicest guys I’ve ever met. The chicks are a dime a dozen. Nobody gives a shit what your clothing looks like. And shoes are optional even in the most formal settings.
i had an argument today with a retarded vegan. i tried to argue like an educated person, but she could not handle that. long story short, i made plenty of solid points (all that i learned from this website, not some fucking biased “animal libertarian” shit) and one of those was that veggitarians and vegans usually have to turn to soy as a protein source, thus causing to “Estrogen Revolution” as i like to call it.
so to see this thread pop up today is absolutely amazing. during the whole argument i was thinking “if your fucking estrogen wasn’t abnormally high you probably wouldn’t be after my throat for every damn reasonable point i make, when all you’ve got is ‘its injustice to kill other animals.’” she was so damn belligerent. you just knew her hormones were def out of whack.
I was just wondering about why is that those people who are the poorest fellows are also the fattest too? Some decades ago the poor was rather skinny, nowadays they’re fat. Here in our country it’s quite simple. Most of them can only afford the cheapest food stuff (and everyone knows, that pre-packed, sugar laden, fat packs are the cheapest, with shit load of simple carbs, the worst plant oils and of course corn fed pork. Oh, not to mention the corn itself as health food, and every yogurt is loaded with sugar, and it seems like that every company puts corn and potato starch along with fructose to their products to improve its “quality”. )
In contrast, even the hormone-fed beef costs about 8-9 euros per pound, and it’s impossible to find any of that bio-raised and fed meat without stellar prices. Eggs worth a fortune, the veggies are expensive, not to mention fruits. Oh, and I was wondering why it is that you can buy soda with 12 gr sugar per 100 ml for paying only 0.3 euros for two litres, whereas the best bottled waters cost thrice as much. (I only drink cable water, but most of the people hates that because of the chloride and other substances. It’s bad to drink a water which has the colour of milk.
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It’s just bad that you have to do compromise. Because people want to ensure future for themselves and their families, children, wife, etc. They want to spare money for their offsprings, renovate the house, buy a new car instead of the 20 yo rusty box in their garage. And if they want to have those things covered, they CANT allow tthemselves to eat healthy and right.
[quote]Hellfrost wrote:
[quote]FattyFat wrote:
[quote]D Public wrote:
punches fatty for his insights
what i meant by entitlement is that Im willing to take what I believe is mine through personal means…I think the majority believe that things should be handed to them simply because they are part of a society and that they are entitled by decree of law…What I feel entilted to will be earned…
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I have a problem whenever the word ‘belief’ enters situations in need of conflict resolution.
So, hypothetically speaking: I like to stick my pecker up your wife’s ass. Being way stronger and muscular than you would entitle me to do so (after caving in your skull, of course).
[quote]D Public wrote:
As far as getting in trouble for warning people…i’ll give a minor example…I cant go up to a guy in the gym and tell him to get off the seated row machine when i need it… when he clearly isn’t putting any effort in his sets…I would eventually get kicked out of the gym for being aggressive with people…
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A good example, but I see a few problems with your interpretation, since the data you’ve given are a bit hazy and fuzzy.
What do you refer to by claiming he isn’t putting enough effort into his sets?
Let me be clear: I won’t have someone sit on a machine pausing his ass off while using his cell. I’d demand to let me work in, at the very minimum. That’s what I usually do. I’ve never been denied, yet.
But if he weren’t rowing away with an intensity you deem as being enough, but not pausing his ass off, either, you’d have no claim, no entitlement at all. Why should you? Would you dictate how other people should live their lifes? Then we’d be back to square one with me sodomizing your woman whenever the mood stroke me.
Again, to be clear: if you’d try to drag me off a rowing machine just for the fact that my way of training wouldn’t be deemed hard enough for your standards, I’d manhandle you face-first into the toilet. If you’d approach me about letting your work in beside me, I might let you (provided you’d be strong enough to keep up without hindering my training).
Don’t get this the wrong way: aggression where it’s needed. But you come over as a tad frustrated. Have you actually tried telling people what you think of them after they’ve angered you in some way?
Politeness doesn’t have to indicate weakness. Just sprinkle it with a tad of determination and aggressiveness, if need be. I think I’ve outlined that I wouldn’t shy off of getting physical if the need arose.
There are usually a few tools suitable for any given situation. Most people I know only have a hammer.
Maybe it’s time to extend your toolbox, man.
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When people start lifting, their character and confidence improves, they feel better about themselves and are stronger in general. Unfortunately they get so arrogant that their head is too far stuck up their ass to realize it. They think I can kick this guy’s ass, why doesn’t society let me do it? They are holding me back! they are trying to make me a pussy! If I want to rip a stop sign off the ground and shove it in this guys face for stretching in the squat rack then by god I will!
They are like that super nerdy kid in school who knew all the answers in class but would never help anyone, and if they did they did it with the biggest attitude, like they were doing the world a favor.
Yes, I use to have a problem sometimes with aggression and use to break things in my house, but I have come to realize that it’s easy to break things and throw a tantrum. But it takes a bigger man to control his emotions and find a better solution to his problems.
Humbleness, politeness, and kindness seem to disappear when everyone is trying to compare cock sizes around here.[/quote]
Hi, I’m Donovan. I just want to point something out. You seem to be confusing ‘aggression’ with ‘violence’. Those two are not the same thing. Did you say that English is not your first language? How much sense does it make to argue about meanings of words with those who know no other language? Just a thought.
Surely being a MAN, is the ability to control your aggression and use it only when necessary.
When i am around my kids do i need to be aggressive and be THE man ?
Of course not, THAT is being a weak pussy!!
Guess what culture has the biggest pussies around? AFRICA thats right look how skinny and weak they are! what a bitches!
[quote]porkpie wrote:
Surely being a MAN, is the ability to control your aggression and use it only when necessary.
When i am around my kids do i need to be aggressive and be THE man ?
Of course not, THAT is being a weak pussy!!
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I think that’s the point. Being in control of your emotions and your aggression is important, but the way mens’ emotions are being suppressed is more extreme than that. I think what the OP is saying is that we’re being discouraged from EVER letting on that fundamentally good men can be capable of aggression. People have even given the term “Alpha Male” a negative connotation now, but I expect that’s down to a small minority of guys giving the rest of us a bad name.
[quote]jasmincar wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]jasmincar wrote:
^not bad for someone that owns a ferrari[/quote]
Do you do anything with your life other than judge people?
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That’s good. Wouldn’t want you to act in the same high moral standard you hold the rest of the world…
Phew, just went I thought there was one less hypocrite in the world.
[quote]dylan10507 wrote:
MangoMan= Not true assertive is the WRONG word. I do not assertively go for a goal I AGGRESSIVELY go for a goal.
Who the hell even uses the word assertive anyway ? It’s basically a self help book word in my opinion.
Maybe one just can not understand AGGRESSION toward a goal intill you have walked the walk. [/quote]
You don’t assertively go for a goal, but you do act in an assertive manner.
And I used the word assertive because it embodies the ‘aggressive’ nature of achieving ones goals with no confusion as to the violent connotation commonly associated with ‘aggression’.
And yes, a mother as an HR manager and a literature-obsessive father raised me to walk around dropping eloquent words frivolously as to sound politically correct.
you know, I just don’t buy that whole poor people are fatter because of the food argument. Beans are cheap. You dont have to eat like a bodybuilder. I would reckon that TRUE health food (not fake organic boxed bs) is the cheapest food in terms of nutrition quality. How much honestly does it cost per week to eat 2000 kcals a day of canned beans, oats, eggs, beef roasts, tinned tuna, spinach and broccoli etc.
Its not that they can’t afford healthy food. It’s that they are fucking stupid about nutrition, and impulsive and emotional when it comes to food. Stop having so many kids before you can support them. Stop smoking a pack a day. Stop buying 10$ fast food combos and 80$ bar tabs. Stop buying those hip hop fashion overpriced clown uniforms. Wow! all of a sudden you have 50-60 bucks a week to buy the bare basics.
If anything they should be thinner because they cant afford as much food.
If you are makeing minimum wage, It should be bus pass, apartment, home made food, library card and pre paid phone minutes.
But in reality its 98 civic with an ugly bodykit, mcdonalds, pack of smokes, and a blackberry with a data plan with a 100$ ed hardy shirt or whatever the fuck.
I know im going overboard, and not everyone is like this, but its a god damned rant thread.
In regards to this violence thing? a violent man is not a fucking Alpha Male or whatever the hell you want to call it. Its false machismo, emulation, insecurity. I probably have some degree of it in me, which I’m trying to get rid of.
Actually it’s a complain thread.
[quote]silverhydra wrote:
[quote]dylan10507 wrote:
MangoMan= Not true assertive is the WRONG word. I do not assertively go for a goal I AGGRESSIVELY go for a goal.
Who the hell even uses the word assertive anyway ? It’s basically a self help book word in my opinion.
Maybe one just can not understand AGGRESSION toward a goal intill you have walked the walk. [/quote]
You don’t assertively go for a goal, but you do act in an assertive manner.
And I used the word assertive because it embodies the ‘aggressive’ nature of achieving ones goals with no confusion as to the violent connotation commonly associated with ‘aggression’.
And yes, a mother as an HR manager and a literature-obsessive father raised me to walk around dropping eloquent words frivolously as to sound politically correct.
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Why are we trying to sound politically correct in this thread and why are we changing words around because one foreign guy won’t accept that “aggression” doesn’t mean violence is involved?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]silverhydra wrote:
[quote]dylan10507 wrote:
MangoMan= Not true assertive is the WRONG word. I do not assertively go for a goal I AGGRESSIVELY go for a goal.
Who the hell even uses the word assertive anyway ? It’s basically a self help book word in my opinion.
Maybe one just can not understand AGGRESSION toward a goal intill you have walked the walk. [/quote]
You don’t assertively go for a goal, but you do act in an assertive manner.
And I used the word assertive because it embodies the ‘aggressive’ nature of achieving ones goals with no confusion as to the violent connotation commonly associated with ‘aggression’.
And yes, a mother as an HR manager and a literature-obsessive father raised me to walk around dropping eloquent words frivolously as to sound politically correct.
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Why are we trying to sound politically correct in this thread and why are we changing words around because one foreign guy won’t accept that “aggression” doesn’t mean violence is involved?
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Not my goal to sound politically correct, it sadly comes second nature.
And my goal was to ease some of the confusion around the word, so we can get back to complaining about society/masculinity, rather than amongst ourselves.
Nietzsche would approve of this thread. I think he would be happy to know that Western culture as a whole has gone completely down the shit hole and there are still people out there who are opposed to rampant pussification an “moral masturbation” (Genealogy of Morals).
On a related note, I am reading “The Gay Science” (Nietzsche) right now and I think many of you will find it amazingly relevant to this topic.
NOT gone completely down the shit hole
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]silverhydra wrote:
[quote]dylan10507 wrote:
MangoMan= Not true assertive is the WRONG word. I do not assertively go for a goal I AGGRESSIVELY go for a goal.
Who the hell even uses the word assertive anyway ? It’s basically a self help book word in my opinion.
Maybe one just can not understand AGGRESSION toward a goal intill you have walked the walk. [/quote]
You don’t assertively go for a goal, but you do act in an assertive manner.
And I used the word assertive because it embodies the ‘aggressive’ nature of achieving ones goals with no confusion as to the violent connotation commonly associated with ‘aggression’.
And yes, a mother as an HR manager and a literature-obsessive father raised me to walk around dropping eloquent words frivolously as to sound politically correct.
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Why are we trying to sound politically correct in this thread and why are we changing words around because one foreign guy won’t accept that “aggression” doesn’t mean violence is involved?
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Someones trying desperately hard to act the Alpha Male on an internet website ??
Quite entertaining.
@OP
I get my meat at Costco. Prices vary by location, but you’ll usually save enough on beef in your first month to pay for the membership. Plus, they have a really good special on Kingsford Competition charcoal right now so you can grill it up properly.
I really noticed this after having traveled back to my country in the summer. Pussy shit was looked down upon. i really think it has something to do with satisfying a population of a LOOTT of people. When I was in lebanon average joes would get up at 430 to 5 am to go to the butcher to get freshly butchered beef. women would shop every single day for fresh veggies, and fruits. and 3 meals were home cooked every single day. believe it or not i cant remember the last time i slept over a buddies house in this country and his parents cooked three meals. i understand some people are not financially able but i could also blame that on either the father and the mother not taking responsibility. being lazy is not looked down upon anymore. dont wanna work? collect unemployment. dont have money for food? dont go to work collect foodstamps and go buy kellogs cereal and frozen veggie burgers and coke. i understand where some of this may be wrong the foodstamps, and unemployement thing but i just thing theirs a direct correlation with this and being pussy. my dad being a perfect example he grew up in lebanon started working at the age of 13. became a lifeguard at the age of 16 then landed a job as a bank manager by the age of 21. nothing was handed to him and he had to make his own way. alot of people dont understand that lifestyle because they feel as if every one owes them something. how that relates to the fact that my house eats raw beef on a weekly basis is still a mystery to me but i think its relevant lol. pics upon request if no one believes me. oh and by the way my dad has never stepped foot in a gym and can do 15 one handed pushups. i blame it on the raw beef.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]BJack wrote:
Ground Beef: $1.69 per pound at Kroger here. It’s not high quality, but it’s still meat.[/quote]
I do believe the point is that it is NOT high quality. I buy steaks weekly. I buy more when it is on sale, but I agree, these prices are insane for anyone who actually builds a diet around it. The only solution is to save up for sales and buy a stand alone freezer.
Building big muscles ain’t cheap and never has been.
The rest of the rant is spot on…it is now socially unacceptable to act like a strong minded male in this country. You have to act weak and feminine in some cases just to keep your job lest you intimidate someone by not eating the same crap they do or by speaking your mind and they call human resources on you for making them feel uncomfortable.[/quote]
You guys should really look into joining a farming co-op and buy quarter / half cow and half hog / whole chickens that way. The quality is a lot better and you get the beef for close to 1.75 a pound with the cuts varrying from steaks to ground beef… Plus you can get the bacon thick cut any size you want…
[quote]porkpie wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]silverhydra wrote:
[quote]dylan10507 wrote:
MangoMan= Not true assertive is the WRONG word. I do not assertively go for a goal I AGGRESSIVELY go for a goal.
Who the hell even uses the word assertive anyway ? It’s basically a self help book word in my opinion.
Maybe one just can not understand AGGRESSION toward a goal intill you have walked the walk. [/quote]
You don’t assertively go for a goal, but you do act in an assertive manner.
And I used the word assertive because it embodies the ‘aggressive’ nature of achieving ones goals with no confusion as to the violent connotation commonly associated with ‘aggression’.
And yes, a mother as an HR manager and a literature-obsessive father raised me to walk around dropping eloquent words frivolously as to sound politically correct.
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Why are we trying to sound politically correct in this thread and why are we changing words around because one foreign guy won’t accept that “aggression” doesn’t mean violence is involved?
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Someones trying desperately hard to act the Alpha Male on an internet website ??
Quite entertaining.
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You’re correct indeed. Keep watching; the fact that it is repetitious does nothing to lessen the entertainment value.
Big hard men, all of them. And they must bitch constantly to be recognised. Gandhi didn’t lift shit, and sure as hell didn’t eat beef. Yet his impact on society as a “man” (read: intelligent, contributing human being) is far bigger than all of ours.
What defined him, and what defined other successful people was their brain. If you’ve got brain and braun, then good for you.
If you haven’t got the brain and thus must remind everyone of your braun, then you’ll always look pathetic.
-NOTE- not arguing on the word “aggressive” here. But y’alls conception of a “man” is the most seriously skewed thing I’ve seen in ages. Like you want to live in a fucking cartoon.