Why is Our Culture Designed to Make You a Shitty Weak Pussy

Belligerent. good point I agree. Except when wimps team up to annoy you. But definetly acting and carying oneself like a man makes you stick out like a sore thumb. Competition for girls is low.

MangoMan= Not true assertive is the WRONG word. I do not assertively go for a goal I AGGRESSIVELY go for a goal.

Who the hell even uses the word assertive anyway ? It’s basically a self help book word in my opinion.

Maybe one just can not understand AGGRESSION toward a goal intill you have walked the walk.

[quote]MangoMan305 wrote:
Stop caring about others and focus on yourself. Why the hell do you care about what others are doing with their lives or think of you? You are the only person in this world that matters. (Your family too)
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This is truth.

I admit that I still struggle with this from time to time. I have to force myself to be unconcious to what other people might think about me, particularly when I am around large groups of people, but I find that life seems much easier and I am so much more happier when I adopt the “I don’t give a shit what they think about me” mentality.

i didnt read the past pages but I really do feel conflicted by this…

There are times were I wish I could just exert my dominance on people and let them know it’s not ok to act in certain ways in my pressence…

10000 yrs ago…I could have mortally wounded a couple people for their behavior…Now I can’t even give someone a warning without getting punished for it…

people think they are entilted to the world…nobody is entilted to shit in my mind…

I have empathy for people who deserve it, but there a lot of people who deserve to be put in their place…

[quote]D Public wrote:
There are times were I wish I could just exert my dominance on people and let them know it’s not ok to act in certain ways in my pressence…
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[quote]D Public wrote:
people think they are entilted to the world…nobody is entilted to shit in my mind…
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= contradiction

[quote]D Public wrote:
Now I can’t even give someone a warning without getting punished for it…
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Says who (provided the warning is (warranted and) delivered in an appropriate way, i.e.: no bashing, pulping, you name it)?

Who hinders you from speaking your mind?

Think some of you would enjoy this e-book…48 laws of power. Goes into detail about the mindsets of some of the greatest rulers, over achievers and masterminds of the past. http://www.scribd.com/doc/15832809/The-48-Laws-of-Power

[quote]FattyFat wrote:

[quote]D Public wrote:
There are times were I wish I could just exert my dominance on people and let them know it’s not ok to act in certain ways in my pressence…
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[quote]D Public wrote:
people think they are entilted to the world…nobody is entilted to shit in my mind…
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= contradiction

[quote]D Public wrote:
Now I can’t even give someone a warning without getting punished for it…
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Says who (provided the warning is delivered in an appropriate way, i.e.: no bashing, pulping, you name it, unless called for)?

Who hinders you from speaking your mind?

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punches fatty for his insights

what i meant by entitlement is that Im willing to take what I believe is mine through personal means…I think the majority believe that things should be handed to them simply because they are part of a society and that they are entitled by decree of law…What I feel entilted to will be earned…

As far as getting in trouble for warning people…i’ll give a minor example…I cant go up to a guy in the gym and tell him to get off the seated row machine when i need it… when he clearly isn’t putting any effort in his sets…I would eventually get kicked out of the gym for being aggressive with people…

idk, maybe i need to go on a spritual refuge or something and learn how to find peace and harmony among people…I just feel I could solve certain problems a little easier with agression…thats all

[quote]D Public wrote:
punches fatty for his insights

what i meant by entitlement is that Im willing to take what I believe is mine through personal means…I think the majority believe that things should be handed to them simply because they are part of a society and that they are entitled by decree of law…What I feel entilted to will be earned…
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I have a problem whenever the word ‘belief’ enters situations in need of conflict resolution.
So, hypothetically speaking: I like to stick my pecker up your wife’s ass. Being way stronger and muscular than you would entitle me to do so (after caving in your skull, of course).

[quote]D Public wrote:
As far as getting in trouble for warning people…i’ll give a minor example…I cant go up to a guy in the gym and tell him to get off the seated row machine when i need it… when he clearly isn’t putting any effort in his sets…I would eventually get kicked out of the gym for being aggressive with people…
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A good example, but I see a few problems with your interpretation, since the data you’ve given are a bit hazy and fuzzy.

What do you refer to by claiming he isn’t putting enough effort into his sets?
Let me be clear: I won’t have someone sit on a machine pausing his ass off while using his cell. I’d demand to let me work in, at the very minimum. That’s what I usually do. I’ve never been denied, yet.
But if he weren’t rowing away with an intensity you deem as being enough, but not pausing his ass off, either, you’d have no claim, no entitlement at all. Why should you? Would you dictate how other people should live their lifes? Then we’d be back to square one with me sodomizing your woman whenever the mood stroke me.

Again, to be clear: if you’d try to drag me off a rowing machine just for the fact that my way of training wouldn’t be deemed hard enough for your standards, I’d manhandle you face-first into the toilet. If you’d approach me about letting your work in beside me, I might let you (provided you’d be strong enough to keep up without hindering my training).

Don’t get this the wrong way: aggression where it’s needed. But you come over as a tad frustrated. Have you actually tried telling people what you think of them after they’ve angered you in some way?

Politeness doesn’t have to indicate weakness. Just sprinkle it with a tad of determination and aggressiveness, if need be. I think I’ve outlined that I wouldn’t shy off of getting physical if the need arose.

There are usually a few tools suitable for any given situation. Most people I know only have a hammer.
Maybe it’s time to extend your toolbox, man.

[quote]Carlitosway wrote:
Think some of you would enjoy this e-book…48 laws of power. Goes into detail about the mindsets of some of the greatest rulers, over achievers and masterminds of the past. http://www.scribd.com/doc/15832809/The-48-Laws-of-Power[/quote]

insanity. I dont want to fight the never ending battle for dominance. Tought, comparaison and intellect dont have its place in human relationship

[quote]D Public wrote:

[quote]FattyFat wrote:

[quote]D Public wrote:
There are times were I wish I could just exert my dominance on people and let them know it’s not ok to act in certain ways in my pressence…
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[quote]D Public wrote:
people think they are entilted to the world…nobody is entilted to shit in my mind…
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= contradiction

[quote]D Public wrote:
Now I can’t even give someone a warning without getting punished for it…
[/quote]
Says who (provided the warning is delivered in an appropriate way, i.e.: no bashing, pulping, you name it, unless called for)?

Who hinders you from speaking your mind?

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punches fatty for his insights

what i meant by entitlement is that Im willing to take what I believe is mine through personal means…I think the majority believe that things should be handed to them simply because they are part of a society and that they are entitled by decree of law…What I feel entilted to will be earned…

As far as getting in trouble for warning people…i’ll give a minor example…I cant go up to a guy in the gym and tell him to get off the seated row machine when i need it… when he clearly isn’t putting any effort in his sets…I would eventually get kicked out of the gym for being aggressive with people…

idk, maybe i need to go on a spritual refuge or something and learn how to find peace and harmony among people…I just feel I could solve certain problems a little easier with agression…thats all[/quote]

Edit: misread first part I thought you meant you were entitled to what you earn I.e. work in a job you get money not entitled to take just beacuse you can, nope you are just pure bully scumbag

Second point you sound like a bully, scumbag, peace of shit. What are you trying to sound badass or something? no one in the right mind could thiink that is right in anyway. For that you shouldn’t get kicked out of the gym you should get the shit kicked out of you.

See what I mean by allowing more strength aggression and self defesnse in society is being able to for example break the head open of some asshole who thinks he can take something from you that isn’t his.

[quote]FattyFat wrote:

[quote]D Public wrote:
punches fatty for his insights

what i meant by entitlement is that Im willing to take what I believe is mine through personal means…I think the majority believe that things should be handed to them simply because they are part of a society and that they are entitled by decree of law…What I feel entilted to will be earned…
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I have a problem whenever the word ‘belief’ enters situations in need of conflict resolution.
So, hypothetically speaking: I like to stick my pecker up your wife’s ass. Being way stronger and muscular than you would entitle me to do so (after caving in your skull, of course).

[quote]D Public wrote:
As far as getting in trouble for warning people…i’ll give a minor example…I cant go up to a guy in the gym and tell him to get off the seated row machine when i need it… when he clearly isn’t putting any effort in his sets…I would eventually get kicked out of the gym for being aggressive with people…
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A good example, but I see a few problems with your interpretation, since the data you’ve given are a bit hazy and fuzzy.

What do you refer to by claiming he isn’t putting enough effort into his sets?
Let me be clear: I won’t have someone sit on a machine pausing his ass off while using his cell. I’d demand to let me work in, at the very minimum. That’s what I usually do. I’ve never been denied, yet.
But if he weren’t rowing away with an intensity you deem as being enough, but not pausing his ass off, either, you’d have no claim, no entitlement at all. Why should you? Would you dictate how other people should live their lifes? Then we’d be back to square one with me sodomizing your woman whenever the mood stroke me.

Again, to be clear: if you’d try to drag me off a rowing machine just for the fact that my way of training wouldn’t be deemed hard enough for your standards, I’d manhandle you face-first into the toilet. If you’d approach me about letting your work in beside me, I might let you (provided you’d be strong enough to keep up without hindering my training).

Don’t get this the wrong way: aggression where it’s needed. But you come over as a tad frustrated. Have you actually tried telling people what you think of them after they’ve angered you in some way?

Politeness doesn’t have to indicate weakness. Just sprinkle it with a tad of determination and aggressiveness, if need be. I think I’ve outlined that I wouldn’t shy off of getting physical if the need arose.

There are usually a few tools suitable for any given situation. Most people I know only have a hammer.
Maybe it’s time to extend your toolbox, man.

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When people start lifting, their character and confidence improves, they feel better about themselves and are stronger in general. Unfortunately they get so arrogant that their head is too far stuck up their ass to realize it. They think I can kick this guy’s ass, why doesn’t society let me do it? They are holding me back! they are trying to make me a pussy! If I want to rip a stop sign off the ground and shove it in this guys face for stretching in the squat rack then by god I will!

They are like that super nerdy kid in school who knew all the answers in class but would never help anyone, and if they did they did it with the biggest attitude, like they were doing the world a favor.

Yes, I use to have a problem sometimes with aggression and use to break things in my house, but I have come to realize that it’s easy to break things and throw a tantrum. But it takes a bigger man to control his emotions and find a better solution to his problems.

Humbleness, politeness, and kindness seem to disappear when everyone is trying to compare cock sizes around here.

^not bad for someone that owns a ferrari

[quote]jasmincar wrote:
^not bad for someone that owns a ferrari[/quote]

Do you do anything with your life other than judge people?

[quote]FattyFat wrote:

[quote]D Public wrote:
punches fatty for his insights

what i meant by entitlement is that Im willing to take what I believe is mine through personal means…I think the majority believe that things should be handed to them simply because they are part of a society and that they are entitled by decree of law…What I feel entilted to will be earned…
[/quote]
I have a problem whenever the word ‘belief’ enters situations in need of conflict resolution.
So, hypothetically speaking: I like to stick my pecker up your wife’s ass. Being way stronger and muscular than you would entitle me to do so (after caving in your skull, of course).

[quote]D Public wrote:
As far as getting in trouble for warning people…i’ll give a minor example…I cant go up to a guy in the gym and tell him to get off the seated row machine when i need it… when he clearly isn’t putting any effort in his sets…I would eventually get kicked out of the gym for being aggressive with people…
[/quote]
A good example, but I see a few problems with your interpretation, since the data you’ve given are a bit hazy and fuzzy.

What do you refer to by claiming he isn’t putting enough effort into his sets?
Let me be clear: I won’t have someone sit on a machine pausing his ass off while using his cell. I’d demand to let me work in, at the very minimum. That’s what I usually do. I’ve never been denied, yet.
But if he weren’t rowing away with an intensity you deem as being enough, but not pausing his ass off, either, you’d have no claim, no entitlement at all. Why should you? Would you dictate how other people should live their lifes? Then we’d be back to square one with me sodomizing your woman whenever the mood stroke me.

Again, to be clear: if you’d try to drag me off a rowing machine just for the fact that my way of training wouldn’t be deemed hard enough for your standards, I’d manhandle you face-first into the toilet. If you’d approach me about letting your work in beside me, I might let you (provided you’d be strong enough to keep up without hindering my training).

Don’t get this the wrong way: aggression where it’s needed. But you come over as a tad frustrated. Have you actually tried telling people what you think of them after they’ve angered you in some way?

Politeness doesn’t have to indicate weakness. Just sprinkle it with a tad of determination and aggressiveness, if need be. I think I’ve outlined that I wouldn’t shy off of getting physical if the need arose.

There are usually a few tools suitable for any given situation. Most people I know only have a hammer.
Maybe it’s time to extend your toolbox, man.

[/quote]

if someone was rowing with moderate effort, i would accept that he got there first…

its when someone displays a clear lack of effort…he is not old and he is not warming up…he is doing endless sets of very light weight…Maybe he does not know better…the cell guy is also another good example(although i have never encountered this guy)…

I guess the best solution would be to work in with the guy and he will probably get the point and either get inspired or leave…

Im not trying to be a bully…I wouldnt push the guy off the machine and say “This is mine, you worthless human…Im the master of the universe…”…I would simply tell him that I want to use the machine…but the problem exists if he refuses… because i would repeat the statement…

the ex. of taking someones wife is clearly wrong…thats not fair game…if you took my wife because you charmed her and she was attracted to you then thats fair game…I’m not a barbarian, man…

an ex of what im not…Some guy came up to me and immediately started being agressive with me “HEy…Thats my tricep rope…You Didn’t see my stuff over there?”…I gave him his rope back after staring at him for about 20 seconds…But this guy needs to learn a lesson that I should have given him…

Im not going to continue this conversation but i think you get the point…Im not a bully but there are times when society restrains people due to the laws in place to prevent disorder…I understand society has progressed to level it has but at the same time my Instinctual reactions have to be shut down quite a bit these days…

[quote]MangoMan305 wrote:

Stop caring about others and focus on yourself. Why the hell do you care about what others are doing with their lives or think of you? You are the only person in this world that matters. (Your family too)
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All well and good, and it’s the policy I try to live by. However, sometimes, the mediocre are just plain fascinated with me and would continue to be an unwelcomed annoyance in my life if I didn’t start doing something about it. It’s like what Dave Tate said about when he was a teenager and how he kept getting his ass handed to him until he decided to do the same to his aggressors. People stopped bothering him afterward. I’ve had to do something similar recently, and most people have backed off. While it’s all well and good to just focus only on yourself, sometimes the mediocre would rather you focus on them instead. I feel like I should be wearing a t-shirt that says “If you’re a lazy unmotivated dipshit who wants life to just give you what you want so you don’t have to earn it, go fuck yourself. I do NOT want to talk to you.” But they may not have the attention span for a sentence that long.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]jasmincar wrote:
^not bad for someone that owns a ferrari[/quote]

Do you do anything with your life other than judge people?

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no

This has nothing to do with how “jacked” you are or how much you can lift. Its the mindset. Maybe lifting weights isn’t your thing, thats fucking a-okay. But whatever you enjoy, you better be fucking passionate about it and have conviction, and not be afraid to do the things you like to do. Too many people just don’t have a passion or a hobby or anything and they fucking drift through life like a turd bobbing in the toilet.

For example, lets say you made some mistakes in life and got a girl pregnant. How many times do you see a young guy putting his life on the sidelines, nutting up, dropping all the stupid shit that youth do, and throwing everything he’s got into making sure this kid grows up okay? You just dont see that kind of passion too often.

Another thing Is the fact that nobody thinks for themselves anymore, And so few people actually want to LEARN shit every day. When was the last time you saw someone read a national geographic compared to one of those stupid whore celebrity magazines? Everyone just wants to play pretend royalty. Im fucking sick of someone suddenly not listening to me while im talking to them because they suddenly are sending a useless text message. Nobody is ever “here” anymore. The hedonism in our culture is on a level beyond that of the peak of the Roman Empire.

And all of this behavior, exposure to media images etc, breeds the mindset of “why don’t I?” By this i mean, so many people see expensive cars, they see 6 pack abs, they see rich happy people etc. And they see it so fucking often throughout the day on tv etc, that they think “Why don’t I have these things?” And never is the grind advertised, the day in and day out hard fucking grind of those thousands of hours it takes to deserve something or earn something or be worth anything.

And what we get is a population of people who don’t want to try, they don’t want to learn. and they don’t want to put the time in. They want to wear the clothes, pretend they are successful, and emulate something they are not. And the side effect is weakness, laziness, and stupidity.

And the worst fucking part is how hypocritical I feel typing this whole thing. Because the country I live in allows for probably one of the easiest lifestyles in the fucking world, and yet I have excuses, just like everyone fucking else. The worst part is that I realize it.

[quote]FattyFat wrote:

Again, to be clear: if you’d try to drag me off a rowing machine just for the fact that my way of training wouldn’t be deemed hard enough for your standards, I’d manhandle you face-first into the toilet.

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i just realized something about this…

How did we end up in the restroom?

[quote]Hellfrost wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Hellfrost wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Hellfrost wrote:
Looks like everyone here knows exactly how to be a MAN!

What the hell is up with this bullshit where you have to be aggressive to get things done? You are not being chased by an 800 pound fucking saber-tooth… your posting on T-Nation on your comfortable chair with four walls and a roof. You are right, we need more aggressive people… we need more aggressive fathers beating their wives, more aggressive surgeons cutting you open and more aggressive dentists ripping off your wisdom teeth with their bare hands because some fat ladies made fun of their eating. [/quote]

You seem confused. Why does being aggressive translate into something negative for you? This entire country would not have been founded without some very aggressive people working to make that happen.

Hell, most of the inventions that now make your life so easy were created by REBELS and freethinkers…exactly what you seem to now hate.

Explain why being aggressive relates to destruction and pain for you.

I treat patients all day long and no patient is getting wisdom teeth “ripped out”.

You seem very feminine and afraid. Why is that?[/quote]

I think we need to define what aggression means.

“In psychology, as well as other social and behavioral sciences, aggression (also called combativeness) refers to behavior between members of the same species that is intended to cause pain or harm.”

Who are you planning to cause pain or harm to Professor X?
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Gee, the definition from Webster also includes:

[quote]1 : a forceful action or procedure (as an unprovoked attack) especially when intended to dominate or master[/quote]…which means you sure are being selective…like that is a surprise.

I mean, people like you are mostly just “passive aggressive” anyway, you just don['t like doing the dirty work yourself…much like your continuous action to make it seem as if I don’t know how to act professionally after about 8 years of practice in my career.

It took quite a lot of “forceful action and procedure” as well as attention to detail to even get to this point in my life at an age that most people DON’T. Most people are not doctors while still in their 20’s and most have not been officers and in positions over people several years older than them before the age of 30. If you think someone can pull that off while acting like an insane lunatic, you are greatly mistaken.

Again, you seem feminine and afraid. Why is that?

I am a very aggressive person. I see what I want and I go after it until I get it. Most people are NOT that way anymore. They want to avoid hard work and avoid paying their dues. They want to be pampered and respected without earning any of it.

Once again, why does being aggressive translate into harm and pain for someone like you?[/quote]

I like how you are calling out my credibility by calling me feminine and “avoid doing the dirty work”. I do not have the same experience as you due to you being older then me. However you have been lucky to be born in a country where you have been safe all your life, no need to have gotten up in arms to protect what you love.

You think aggression leads to innovation, perhaps focused aggression can, but brutal violent aggression serves nothing this day and age.

My government left my country and stole all of it’s people’s investments. There was no military, police, or any form of control for over 6 months. We broke the military arsenals and stole everything… there was a loaded tank sitting in front of my house. We as the people rose and took control of what our government could not. But then people started getting aggressive and violent, if you walked down the street you could have been shot in the head and no one would have done anything about it.

I was fortunate enough to come to this country, however I have done more then enough work to put your medical degree to shame. The Ferrari to my left was earned with real blood. I had to see someone beat to death in front of me while someone held a loaded gun to my face this summer.

This is not the same thing as you talking about a few people who can’t lift weights in the gym and calling them pussies and how your society is becoming feminine. Call me a pussy, weak, and feminine, but you don’t know real aggression until your life hangs in the balance. [/quote]

wow VERY motivating.
i agree masculinity is not the same as violence.
although sometime violence is necessary to be make it on top.

[quote]schultzie wrote:
This has nothing to do with how “jacked” you are or how much you can lift. Its the mindset. Maybe lifting weights isn’t your thing, thats fucking a-okay. But whatever you enjoy, you better be fucking passionate about it and have conviction, and not be afraid to do the things you like to do. Too many people just don’t have a passion or a hobby or anything and they fucking drift through life like a turd bobbing in the toilet.

For example, lets say you made some mistakes in life and got a girl pregnant. How many times do you see a young guy putting his life on the sidelines, nutting up, dropping all the stupid shit that youth do, and throwing everything he’s got into making sure this kid grows up okay? You just dont see that kind of passion too often.

Another thing Is the fact that nobody thinks for themselves anymore, And so few people actually want to LEARN shit every day. When was the last time you saw someone read a national geographic compared to one of those stupid whore celebrity magazines? Everyone just wants to play pretend royalty. Im fucking sick of someone suddenly not listening to me while im talking to them because they suddenly are sending a useless text message. Nobody is ever “here” anymore. The hedonism in our culture is on a level beyond that of the peak of the Roman Empire.

And all of this behavior, exposure to media images etc, breeds the mindset of “why don’t I?” By this i mean, so many people see expensive cars, they see 6 pack abs, they see rich happy people etc. And they see it so fucking often throughout the day on tv etc, that they think “Why don’t I have these things?” And never is the grind advertised, the day in and day out hard fucking grind of those thousands of hours it takes to deserve something or earn something or be worth anything.

And what we get is a population of people who don’t want to try, they don’t want to learn. and they don’t want to put the time in. They want to wear the clothes, pretend they are successful, and emulate something they are not. And the side effect is weakness, laziness, and stupidity.

And the worst fucking part is how hypocritical I feel typing this whole thing. Because the country I live in allows for probably one of the easiest lifestyles in the fucking world, and yet I have excuses, just like everyone fucking else. The worst part is that I realize it.[/quote]

Stop and think for a moment… do you not still see people with expensive cars, big houses? There are still people that are motivated to make the best of life and reach their potential. People are still rich. If everybody were as motivated as those with the expensive cars then who will the lower and middle class consist of? Life has always been like this. Society needs the mindless turds to work the jobs we motivated people do not want to do.

Once again, you are thinking too hard about this and need to relax. Be happy with the progress you have made in your life and the goals you plan to reach someday. This country is fine, there will always be those to lead us and those to follow.

I think that most of us would agree that we’d all be FAR more comfortable living 500 years ago swinging a battle axe in to somebody’s face. That instinct in in ALL of us. More so when we’re forced to deal with the stupid sheep that this society breeds. I think this at least 20 times a day when I’m interacting with people.

But, (you knew there was a BUT coming… LOL) in today’s society, if you want the same kind of power, you have to be smart about it. 5% of the US population controls 95% of the assets! Why? Because they, like the rulers, the clergy, dictators, conquerors and royalty from our world’s history, recognized one very important fact: PEOPLE ARE STUPID.

They don’t want to think for themselves. They are content to be controlled, as long as you cater to a few basic physical and emotional needs, they will follow blindly, consume blindly, and vote blindly. It’s gotten so bad, that now instead of just “the NEWS”, we have shows following the news that tell people how they should think about the news! Because they are too ignorant and lazy themselves to even form a fucking opinion.

The solution to our frustration is very simple. Become one of the 5% (or close enough that you don’t have to worry about anything). I’m willing to bet that most of the 5% could actually swing a battle axe in to someone’s face and be able to get away with it!