[quote]JeffR wrote:
…ALL HAIL SET!!![/quote]
And I thought your political arguments were loony.
[quote]lixy wrote:
The public vote in “Who Wants to Be A Millionaire” illustrates perfectly my point.[/quote]
You know its always funny when the audience gives a wrong answer.
[quote]pookie wrote:
JeffR wrote:
…ALL HAIL SET!!!
And I thought your political arguments were loony.
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pookie,
You’re just lost in the vortex of self-doubt.
Come to ALL HAIL SET!!!
He tolerates guys with no testicles. You are in!!!
JeffR
[quote]pookie wrote:
Mitsos lived above his restaurant with only his beloved pet dog for company.
One day the dog died and Mitsos went to the parish priest and asked, “Father, my dog died. Could you do a Trisagion for the poor animal? He was like a son to me.”
Father Nikos shook his head, “I’m afraid not; we cannot have services for an animal in the church. But, there’s a Unitarian church on the next block, and God knows what they believe. Maybe they’ll do something for your dog.”
Mitsos said, “I’ll go right away Father. Do you think $5,000 is enough to donate to them for the service?”
Father Niko exclaimed, “Kyrie Eleison! Vre Mitso, why didn’t you tell me the dog was Greek Orthodox?”
[/quote]
LOL. Funny shit.
Although, what’s a Unitarian Church?
[quote]lixy wrote:
Now, what you’re trying to do is pretty much similar, except that you’re dealing with an infinite being. [/quote]
Don’t make me break out my paper on discussing the fallacies of the Cosmological Argument by Aquinas.
[quote]brucevangeorge wrote:
Although, what’s a Unitarian Church?[/quote]
They don’t believe in the trinity of God. God is one.
They’re pretty close. Instead of -2, they should’ve gone the whole -3.
I think Set needs to bulk.
[quote]JeffR wrote:
pookie wrote:
JeffR wrote:
…ALL HAIL SET!!!
And I thought your political arguments were loony.
pookie,
You’re just lost in the vortex of self-doubt.
Come to ALL HAIL SET!!!
He tolerates guys with no testicles. You are in!!!
JeffR[/quote]
It’s well known that Set likes to make people laugh. That’s why Set tickles.
[quote]pookie wrote:
I think Set needs to bulk.
JeffR wrote:
pookie wrote:
JeffR wrote:
…ALL HAIL SET!!!
And I thought your political arguments were loony.
pookie,
You’re just lost in the vortex of self-doubt.
Come to ALL HAIL SET!!!
He tolerates guys with no testicles. You are in!!!
JeffR
It’s well known that Set likes to make people laugh. That’s why Set tickles.
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pookie,
True. In that picture he does look like a wafer. However, since ALL HAIL SET!!! is so powerful, no one can look directly at him. Therefore, there isn’t a true physical description. It’s just too painful for the artist.
ALL HAIL SET!!! does tickle.
Did you know he’s also the God of gazelles?
What more could you ask for in a God!!??!!!
JeffR
[quote]JeffR wrote:
What more could you ask for in a God!!??!!![/quote]
The granting of prayers for testicles.
[quote]JeffR wrote:
Did you know he’s also the God of gazelles?
What more could you ask for in a God!!??!!!
[/quote]
Well my God is better than you God (Set).
My God (the dude who fucked the Virgin Mary and she was still a virgin after.) is SO POWERFUL that you can’t even begin to prove his almighty strength and ability.
In fact, he is so powerful that he is an infinite being, therefore you can’t even see him, or find him.
He is everywhere.
I know this because it said so in a book. And if it was written in a book it must be true. Not only that but my Priest says its true because he also read the same book. And then the Priest told others of the book and they believed it too.
So if the book, the Priest, and everyone else says so, it must be true. And don’t come to me with your “illogical” the earth is round and it revolves around the sun.
That’s all just crap that is based on observation, measurements and rational thinking.
[quote]lixy wrote:
pookie wrote:
That might be true, but in light of the rest of the Koran, that “single nation” is not a nation of brothers. If you’re not a muslim, you must be converted or perish. Infidels and unbelievers are not to be respected and accepted.
Here we go again with the generalizations and false accusations. The Quran did say that God is the only one who can judge the infidels and unbelievers. And that’s the end of it. That Ben Laden believes he’s got a right to convert them by force has little to do with the Islam I know.
“And if any of your slaves ask you for a deed in writing (for emancipation) give them such a deed; If ye knew any good in them: yea, give them something yourselves out of the means which Allah has given to you?” – Quran 24:33
Is that supposed to show that the Koran is against slavery?
For anyone remotely familiar with the pre-Islamic Arabia, yes, it certainly would. Slavery was an institution that Islam took some time to eradicate, but finally succeeded in doing so.
Claiming that the Quran condones it is preposterous.
http://www.twf.org/Library/Slavery.html
God doesn’t really answer the question of why is the universe there; it simply adds another layer of “why is it there” on top.
The very definition of God - at least in Islam - shows that He was not created. So, there cannot be another layer. Thus answering the question.
You were claiming that religion provided some things that couldn’t be found elsewhere. I was pointing out that except for the belief in the supernatural, very little of religion can’t be found elsewhere.
I stand by that.
How else can you be sure that the sneaky criminals who don’t get caught in this life will eventually be punished? Where else does it say that it’s the intention behind your actions that count?
The point was that quoting a person does not an argument make.
Whatever you’re smoking, put me down for a pound.
Yes, often a quote does not make an argument. But in that context, my quote was appropriate and makes the argument. The argument being that even the brightest QM experts acknowledge that nobody really understands it. It’s your word against that of a community of brilliant physicists.
Ok. I still don’t really see the relevance of QM vis-a-vis God and religion. QM might be replaced by another theory eventually (like String Theory). Do you think that Muslims will accept to replace the Koran with something better, if it comes along?
No, it won’t. It will merely complete it.
Did relativity replace Newton’s law? No.
Did QM replace relativity? No.
Did the Quran replace the Old testament? No.
Did the Quran replace the bible? No.
Plus, the Quran says that Muhammad was the last prophet. Smart, ey?
I think this “the majority is most likely right” argument is completely flawed.
It’s self-evident. The more trials/samples/cross-examinations, the more the probability of being right.
I’m not saying it’s ALWAYS right. Which is the only thing you demonstrated by you counter-examples.
Why don’t you show me that my theory is ALWAYS wrong?
Is saying “it’s not true” a false accusation?
You keep bringing out of context quotes from the Quran and examples of bad things perpetrated in the name of Islam to sally its image. That’s the false accusations I’m talking about.
Did you read the Quran a few dozen times (in Arabic) to understand its overall message? Have you ever studied the history of Arabia? Did you go around the Islamic world and talk to people from all levels? If not, then you’re falsely accusing my religion to preach something it never did.
If such was the case, I wouldn’t bother arguing against it. But religion is not just a question of taste. It’s not “you pick yours and I’ll pick mine and we’ll all be happy together.” People use their beliefs to inform their opinions and their actions. If the beliefs are wrong, it can lead to a lot of pain and grief for large groups of people.
If history has taught us anything, it’s that men will abuse religion to serve some selfish low interest.
As long as your religion doesn’t interfere with mine, I don’t see any problem with “you pick yours and I’ll pick mine and we’ll all be happy together.” History shows that it’s possible. Many countries shows that it’s possible. Why can’t we all get along and stop agressing each other?
What you’re doing is fuel an already raging hatred towards a religion (since 9/11) with little insight into its core. That will inevitably lead to a lot of pain and grief for large groups of people. For the sake of innocent children, give it a rest.[/quote]
Are you serious Islam eradicating slavery? It wasn’t officially banned in Saudi until the 1950’s? It continued into other parts of the middle east well into the 20th century.
Tabari IX:28 “The Muslims were concerned. They did not want to give up their share. So Muhammad said, ?He who holds a share of these captives shall get six camels for every slave from the next booty we take.’ So the Muslims returned the women and children captives.”
Are you familiar with that passage. Does not Muhammad himself speak out about slaves being held as property and traded. Have I misinterpeted the passage? If so enlighten me please.
Do you know how many verses discuss how to divide booty, slaves and property taken in raids? The african slave trade continued in the middle east until WW1 led to the break up of the caliphate. Islam has no record of ending slavery, unlike the British Empire which fought tirelessly to eradicate it.
You not being truthful. But since you are speaking to a largely infidel audience is that not also permitted?
[quote]brucevangeorge wrote:
the dude who fucked the Virgin Mary and she was still a virgin after.[/quote]
Guys who can do that usually don’t brag about it.
It reminds me of this summary of the Biblical story:
The first little prototype couple in God’s bad science project made ONE mistake and “Mister Love and Mercy” drove his own “children” out of their home and held a grudge for century after century. His idea of clearing it all up was to climb into a virgin and pop out wearing a baby suit so that he could grow up and get nailed to a Redneck torture machine so he could pay some kind of “sin bill” back to himself before he “un-died” and flew back to sit at the right hand of himself so that whoever believed all this insanity wouldn’t have to go to Hell because he loves us all so much.
No I think Jesus and God are two different things… right?
Wasn’t Jesus his son?
[quote]pookie wrote:
brucevangeorge wrote:
the dude who fucked the Virgin Mary and she was still a virgin after.
Guys who can do that usually don’t brag about it.
It reminds me of this summary of the Biblical story:
The first little prototype couple in God’s bad science project made ONE mistake and “Mister Love and Mercy” drove his own “children” out of their home and held a grudge for century after century. His idea of clearing it all up was to climb into a virgin and pop out wearing a baby suit so that he could grow up and get nailed to a Redneck torture machine so he could pay some kind of “sin bill” back to himself before he “un-died” and flew back to sit at the right hand of himself so that whoever believed all this insanity wouldn’t have to go to Hell because he loves us all so much.[/quote]
Well, when you put it that way… 
[quote]brucevangeorge wrote:
No I think Jesus and God are two different things… right?
Wasn’t Jesus his son?[/quote]
Uh-oh. I think you better go and immediately consult your local priest/reverend/minister/preacher/poobah/etc. I think you caught a bit of “Teh Heretic.”
Tell him your Trinity Unit (located just behind the Immaculate Conception Device) is on the fritz.
[quote]jawara wrote:
this is crazy!!![/quote]
No wonder the Islam nations are always fighting and pissed off, they can’t even check out some cute ass on a regular basis, even at the beach.
[quote]MisterAmazing wrote:
this is crazy!!!
No wonder the Islam nations are always fighting and pissed off, they can’t even check out some cute ass on a regular basis, even at the beach.[/quote]
They kinda look like Teletubbies.
stellar, pookie, misteramazing,
Cut the blather.
Did you know that Set was the strongest son of Nut. Yes, that was the name of his father, Nut.
Now, remember also that Set was also the God of chaos, wood, metals, and caravan routes ALL HAIL SET!!!
While your other silly little Gods were flailing around, ALL HAIL SET!!!
was ejaculating on the ground and bringing forth the plant bedded-kau. Did any of your Prophets make any bedded-kau. NO!!!
ALL HAIL SET!!! was the only God able to defeat the nefarious APEP.
APEP was like an ancient democrat. He was the enemy of ALL HAIL AMMAN RA!!!
ALL HAIL SET!!! was the God who ate the moon every 30 days!!!
What’s up, now BIATCH!!! Ate the moon!!!
Finally, for lixy and the other nationalistic stooges, REMEMBER THAT ALL HAIL SET!!! was the God of foreign lands.
THAT INCLUDES MOROCCO AND SWEDEN!!!
Any comments stellar?
JeffR
Islam against slavery huh? Someone explain what the Mamelukes of Egypt and the Jannissaries of the Ottoman Empire were. If Islam is against slavery, explain the existance of those 2 groups.
[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Islam against slavery huh? Someone explain what the Mamelukes of Egypt and the Jannissaries of the Ottoman Empire were. If Islam is against slavery, explain the existance of those 2 groups.[/quote]
You mean the fact that the Mamluks ruled Egypt? FYI, Mamluk means “possessed” in Arabic (in the literal sense of the term). The very slaves became rulers. Unlikely to happen in a segragationist pro-slavery state, heh?
As for the Ottomans, why don’t you get a clue?