Why I Can't Be Muslim

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Alternate Answer: God doesn’t care. We are less than ants to him.[/quote]

Interesting answer. Now how would that be any different from a God that doesn’t exist? Would it make a difference anyway?

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
but brain matter, muscle tissue and bone tissue are essentially the same in males and females,

brucevangeorge wrote:
Nope. This is proven to be a false assumption:

While there are similarities, there are subtle differences in the structure and composition of almost every part of the body.[/quote]

Fascinating article. What it basically said, though, was that men and women use their brains differently, and implied that the reasons for the difference in usage patterns are primarily hormonal rather than anatomical. The higher androgen levels in men are responsible for male brains to be more suited to spatial and rational tasks, whereas female brains, due to lower androgen levels, are more suited to linguistic and calculation problems. The article implied that male and female brains are “wired” differently, but all this means is that the synaptic connections among neurons differ in men and women. This is no big surprise, as even individuals of the same sex have different neuronal “wiring”.

I will concede that there are parts of the human brain that do exhibit profound anatomical sex differences. They are the hypothalamus, the septum pellucidum, the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BSTc), and the amygdala, Of course the hypothalamus is the hormone control centrer of the brain, regulating everything from body temperature, thirst, and hunger, to sleep and emotional activity. It is easy to see how males and females would have evolved different requirements for these functions. Similarly, the amygdala is associated with sense of smell, which a hunter might depend on more than a gatherer.

The BSTc is a funny one. Males typically have more (almost twice as many) somatostatin neurons in the BSTc than females, and it is this neuronal number that determines gender identity: the BSTc of male transsexuals resembles that of female heterosexuals.

In other words, if we were to reach into Nominal Prospect’s brain and kill off half of the somatostatin neurons in his BSTc, he might suddenly find himself with a strong desire to have his gonads removed, grow breasts, and put on high heels, silk stockings and a dress. Then we would see how inferior he imagines the female “race” to be.

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
In other words, if we were to reach into Nominal Prospect’s brain and kill off half of the somatostatin neurons in his BSTc, he might suddenly find himself with a strong desire to have his gonads removed, grow breasts, and put on high heels, silk stockings and a dress. Then we would see how inferior he imagines the female “race” to be.[/quote]

You go buy the chloroform, I’ll go check the garage for my toolbox.

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Hmm. Okay.

Well, I hope this philosophy you espouse brings you much health, wealth and happiness. Though the prospect of such seems nominal at best.[/quote]

It’s not a “philosophy”, per se, but a belief system based on on empirical observation.

It is the practice of women and weak men to take beliefs which they find comforting. Great men, on the other hand, willingly seek out all the facts of existence so that they may reshape the world in their image, impose upon it their own order. To conquer the world, one must first know it. This is the realization of the will to power and the essence of masculinity. Anyone who lacks this primal drive is doomed to a life of slavery. Pampered slavery, in some instances, but slavery nonetheless. Women are slaves by their very nature.

I regret that I cannot enjoy your witty remark, as I’ve got no idea what “sledge hammer” is.

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Nominal Prospect wrote:
… Women are built for sex. This much is obvious from looking at them. …

As are men. We have our sexual organs exposed and dangling.[/quote]

And what of it? If it hasn’t led to the extinction of the species, it’s a viable feature in evolutionary terms. Men are built for working and impregnating as many women as possible. Women are simply built for the pleasure of man in the latter task. They serve no other biological purpose.

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Men and women are different. We are not completely interchangeable. We are both capable of great things.

Many of the things you noted are driven by societal differences and some are driven by biology. You blame too much on biology and seem to think that somehow makes women inferior.

I think you are missing out.[/quote]

What you fail to realize is that there is no “society” without biology. Society is an artificial construct. Show me one example where this construct has managed to override the immutable certainties of biology (though, I suppose, the nature of the question would ask you to adopt some un-PC views to which you are not likely to be a current subscriber, such as notions of inherent racial and gender inequality).

Societies reflect and are built upon biological realities – they are utterly incapable of suppressing or overriding them. This is a bold assertion with great implications, yet I state it without reservation. Every person is deserving of his current societal status, be he an emperor or slave.

The classic feminist line is that women have been “kept down” by male dominated societies throughout history.

The immediate response of an intelligent person to this ridiculous assertion would be to ask how it came to be that men attained a position of power over women in the first place, if they were, indeed, “created equal”. Was it an act of God or nature that gave men the initial advantage, which they have, apparently, been exploiting ever since? The very thought is patently absurd. In addressing biology and society we are presented with a chicken and egg quandary. In this case, there is absolutely no doubt as to which came first – human biology.


This is “Sledge Hammer.”

[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
It’s not a “philosophy”, per se, [/quote]

Yes, I was being generous. “Philosophy” means a love of wisdom, evidence of which your position certainly lacks.

Or at least a cursory understanding of history and biology.

You appear to find your belief that you are superior to all women comforting, and are clearly not a woman, so I guess that narrows it down.

Thank you, Ayn Rand.

Dagney Taggart would kick your ass.

Again I bring up the counter-examples of Margaret Thatcher and Queen Elizabeth I, as well as Golda Meir, Catherine the Great, Joan of Arc, Queen Cleopatra of Egypt, Empress Wu Zetian of China, Queen Boudicca of the Celts, Queen Maeve of Connacht, Queen Artemisa of Halicarnassus, Queen Gorgo of Sparta, Queen Dido of Carthage, Queen Jezebel of Israel, and Queen Sammu-Ramat of Babylon. There are plenty more if you’d like a complete list.

None of these chicks would probably have taken very kindly to your inference that they are “slaves by their very nature:” more than likely, they would have cut you up into small pieces and fed you to the dogs.

You poor soul. Sledge Hammer was the eponymous main character (see photo above) of a satirical police sitcom that ran from 1986 to 1988, which is probably before you were born. The show parodied Mickey Spillane’s Mike Hammer, Dirty Harry, and loud-mouthed tough guys in general. Sledge Hammer was a police detective with a .44 Magnum, a huge chip on his shoulder, and (unfortunately for them both), a female partner named Dori Doreau, whom he relentlessly jabbed with his blatant male chauvinism. To wit:

Doreau: What, you think all women should be barefoot and pregnant?
Hammer: No, I encourage women to wear shoes.

At one point, Doreau accuses Hammer of being a misogynist, to which Hammer comes back with the retort that I quoted above (a misogynist, as you are undoubtedly aware, is a man who hates women). Hammer evidently thinks she was talking about massage, hence the malapropism.

Hope that clears things up.

[quote]tmoney1 wrote:
lixy wrote:
tmoney1 wrote:
I don’t understand why you can’t be muslim because of specific women’s clothing.

I think everytime they see these kind of clothing, they assume that men imposed it on the women. It should be noted that most Muslim women in Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia are a infinitely tiny portion of the Muslim community and that most women cover up out of choice.

You should read about Islam and its practices. It is a very good religion. I am Muslim so feel free to ask me any questions if you’d like.

I have one. Seeing that you’re in the US and all the antagonism I see towards Islam comes from north Americans, how do you explain the absence of peaceful Muslims on US mainstream media?

I wouldn’t say there is an absence in the mainstream media, it’s that they are not shown on mainstream media very often.

CAIR (Council on American Islamic Relations) is the leading Islamic organization for peace and justice in the US. They have ties with the media, but mainly the information is in print media, internet, and through emails. The lack of peaceful Muslims on mainstream media doesn’t constitute for a lack of peaceful Muslims in other areas.[/quote]

Points to Ponder –
CAIR Employees And Officials Support Terror

Senior CAIR employee Randall Todd Royer, a/k/a ?Ismail? Royer, pled guilty and was sentenced to twenty years in prison
for participating in a network of militant jihadists centered in Northern Virginia. He admitted to aiding and abetting three persons
who sought training in a terrorist camp in Pakistan for the purpose of waging jihad against American troops in Afghanistan.
Royer?s illegal actions occurred while he was employed with CAIR

CAIR’s Director of Community Relations, Bassem Khafagi , was arrested by the United States due to his ties with a
terror-financing front group. Khafagi pled guilty to charges of visa and bank fraud, and agreed to be deported to Egypt.
Khafagi?s illegal actions occurred while he was employed by CAIR.

  On December 18, 2002, Ghassan Elashi, founding board member of CAIR-Texas, a founder of the Holy Land Foundation, 

and a brother-in-law of Musa Abu Marzook , was arrested by the United States and charged with, among other things,
making false statements on export declarations, dealing in the property of a designated terrorist organization, conspiracy
and money laundering. Ghassan Elashi committed his crimes while working at CAIR, and was found Guilty.

CAIR Board Member Imam Siraj Wahaj, an un-indicted co-conspirator in the first World Trade Center bombing,
has called for replacing the American government with an Islamic caliphate, and warned that America will crumble
unless it accepts Isla

[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:

Society is an artificial construct… [/quote]

So what? It exists and must be accounted for when evaluating the differences between the sexes.

You cannot simply blame everything on biology.