[quote]Mick28 wrote:
As if the rest of us don’t feel the same way. I don’t know of anyone who cares a lick (no pun intended) if two gay guys want to hump each other. It’s when that very small group wants to change society to suit their needs is when most …let’s say about 70%…are against them.
Even you should know this.[/quote]
So you’re saying the minority is not worthy of equality. OK, I understand now.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
As if the rest of us don’t feel the same way. I don’t know of anyone who cares a lick (no pun intended) if two gay guys want to hump each other. It’s when that very small group wants to change society to suit their needs is when most …let’s say about 70%…are against them.
Even you should know this.
So you’re saying the minority is not worthy of equality. OK, I understand now.[/quote]
Give 'em your support! Go the nearest Gay Pride Parade!!!
I’d argue to the contrary, the two issues are nothing alike. The abortion question, at it’s most basic level, is about what it means to be human. At what point in our lifecycle do we gain the right to contine living without getting chopped up in some medical procedure to which we cannot consent?
The gay marriage issue is one of freedom vs. standards. What harm is done to my family if the word “family” is altered to include same-sex couples? I can’t think of any. I still believe, as I originally posted, that the solution for the government is to bypass the problem by getting out of the business of issuing marriage liscences altogether. Thus any couple who wants to be married can find a church that will conduct the ceremony, and the government can deal with the “partnership” that is formed for the couple wether gay or straight.
And posting pics of gays in parade is great for shock value, but pictures of a bunch of ugly breeders getting it on would make that activity seem just as unappealing and unnatural. Think about it.
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
After thinking about it, it sort of reminds me of the abortion issue. Many are in favor of this procedure until they actually see photos of what an abortion is.
As they say: One picture is worth a thousand words.[/quote]
Yup. If people, esp libs, saw what they support, instead of just wallowing in their hate, they might think a little.
Oh, Machiavelli, the gents in the pic are flying to Auckland next week for a tour…then Christchurch, then Dunedin. Send us some pics of your ‘experience’.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Oh, Machiavelli, the gents in the pic are flying to Auckland next week for a tour…then Christchurch, then Dunedin. Send us some pics of your ‘experience’.[/quote]
But I’m in none of those cities.
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
But…that is what they do…right? So…shouldn’t be any big deal to those who strongly support this sort of thing.[/quote]
Just because we don’t think you should discriminate against gay people, doesn’t mean we’re OK with seeing a guys ass. Even if it was a straight guy, I’d appreciate more pants.
The guys in the pic are obviously mentally unbalanced. Anyone who parades around like that is just plain sick. Therefore, I’d grant that they are not the typical gays.
I do want it understood: I have no problem with gay people, but marriage is sacred to me. My problem is with marriage.
Man is meant to ennoble himself.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
The guys in the pic are obviously mentally unbalanced. Anyone who parades around like that is just plain sick. Therefore, I’d grant that they are not the typical gays.
I do want it understood: I have no problem with gay people, but marriage is sacred to me. My problem is with marriage.
Man is meant to ennoble himself.[/quote]
But most of them aren’t demanding Christian/Jewish/Muslim/Hindu marriage specifically. All they want is for the Government to recognize their partnership. You don’t personally have to recognize their marriage if you choose not to.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
The guys in the pic are obviously mentally unbalanced. Anyone who parades around like that is just plain sick. Therefore, I’d grant that they are not the typical gays.
I do want it understood: I have no problem with gay people, but marriage is sacred to me. My problem is with marriage.
Man is meant to ennoble himself.
But most of them aren’t demanding Christian/Jewish/Muslim/Hindu marriage specifically. All they want is for the Government to recognize their partnership. You don’t personally have to recognize their marriage if you choose not to.[/quote]
Americans see their government as an extension of themselves. We created a government based on deductive logic, with the rights of Man as our axioms/postulates: “We hold these truths to be self-evident…”
Therefore, because this is very unique and OURS, we take the decisions made by our government quite personally. An example would be partial birth abortion — people here (I’m one) go absolutely crazy that OUR government allows such bestiality. So, we don’t like the government getting involved in things we hold sacred. If the state allows something like gay marriage, its a personal matter to us.
I’d probably be fine with civil unions, where insurance benefits, inheritance, and all that are accepted. But gay people aren’t happy with that. They want to slap sacred traditions. Funny how all traditions are to be respected except those of honest church-going Americans…
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
Not allowing gay people to get married to each other is not discrimination.
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O RLY? You should brush up on what discrimination is. There used to be a time when black people couldn’t marry white people. But I guess that’s not discrimination either.
What’s up with the bold text? At any rate, do you think all gay people enjoy seeing that? I don’t like seeing a fat chicks ass, is that intolerant? Or does it mean I have standards?
Hmm…
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
We don’t have to recognize that this is July either…Ha ha…
That was actually funny…thanks.[/quote]
It’s also true. If I choose to recognize a different calendar, I can do so. The same holds for your personal recognition of gay marriage.