Why Do Europeans Hate Us?

Off Topic Politics and World Issues
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[quote]FightingScott wrote:
The Europeans hate themselves a lot more than they hate us. 70% of Americans are proud to be American. 50 something % of Brits are proud to be British. Less than 40% of French are proud to be French.

The Brits and the French look down on the Italians and Spanish because they’re not as rich and their governments aren’t as stable. It’s not as simple as the Europeans hating us. It’s all a complex, mutual circle of hate. It’s a beautiful thing and it will change but it will never go away.

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Mostly BS.

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[quote]nukepower wrote:
europe hates america the same reason muslims hate jews. RELIGION. for the past 2000 so years catholicism has been the dominant religion with nearly all of its power based out of “old europe”. american society is producing too many varying mindsets and microreligions.

this is why the MEDIA as previously stated is convincing everyone to hate america and its radical thinking, authority challenging, ass-kicking any mother fucker who thinks dont “dont tread on me” is a fuckin joke attitude.[/quote]

Practically complete BS.

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I will break it down for you:

The reason the World, including Europe thinks you are a danger for World peace is the fresh faced, clear eyed killers you send abroad.

Maybe the American way is the one and only way, but to send teenagers to spread the gospel with the sword makes you modern crusaders, and no, that is not a good thing.

The reason why we think your culture is finished being the dominating one is obvious from the outside, I am not going into details.

The reason why we think that is a good thing, look under , clear eyed, fresh faced killers in the name of freedom.

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HH, thanks for the welcome, but I think I’ll be an infrequent pinch hitter rather than a starter. These threads can get pretty depressing and the flame wars tedious. Certain issues I can’t pass up though, like that HRT/Republican issue.

To Nikoforos, this was in person. I visited several hospitals in Europe, travelling with a friend with a near terminal illness, but also getting treatment myself for my injuries. I sat in many crowded treatment rooms, and I often did not identify myself as American. Perhaps groups of multinational Europeans getting treated for cancer, AIDS, and various other serious illnesses are prone to vent a lot more hate.

But it was there, trust me, much more than I expected, and in several different hospitals and countries. It was usually not in your face like that just going into town and mingling with locals. Doc

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[quote]orion wrote:
I will break it down for you:

The reason the World, including Europe thinks you are a danger for World peace is the fresh faced, clear eyed killers you send abroad.

Maybe the American way is the one and only way, but to send teenagers to spread the gospel with the sword makes you modern crusaders, and no, that is not a good thing.
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nukepower wrote: i am not sure what world you are living in where you think america is the only place on earth where fresh faced, clear eyed killers come from, cuz if you think for one second that any man capable and not bound to the fundamentals of society wouldnt come into your house, kill you, your brothers, and your father, and fuck your mother in the ass while eating a sandwhich… you are a moron.

people havent evolved much over the past 200,000 years. we still have the same urges, we are just better at killing each other. there are no crusades this is a test of survival (sorry for making it public if we intend to live to fight another day)

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[shrugs]…i do not hate a single thing in existence, but let me tell you what i love about the US: some of the best movies i’ve ever seen are american, some of the best music i’ve ever heard is american, some of the most beautiful vistas are american, i use american designed hard- and software with great satisfaction, there’s great american art, literature and design and the list goes on…

…the US is not the only country i feel about this way, and 10 years ago you would not have gotten the same european feedback on US foreign policy like these days, but face it: the US swayed off course considerably [imo, for what that’s worth]…

…it just occured to me that perhaps when europeans criticise the US it is nót aimed at the people but at the government, but because americans identify strongly with their country and government, they feel personally attacked? Again, for west-europeans, patriotism/nationalism is a very strange concept, and many [including me] simply don’t understand it. Selfhatred or domestic insecurities have nothing to do with that, quite the opposite really…

…as often is the case, these issues come from not understanding a different mindset?

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Denial. A head in the sand attitude.

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…whatever it is, it’s a sad state of affairs, that’s for sure…

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Also another point to bear in mind is that Europeans feel a lot more venerable than Americans for two reasons:

  1. Most European counties have been directly affected and greatly damaged by recent global wars

  2. They are in much more close proximity to the Middle east

This is one of the reasons a lot of Europeans are against the war in Middle east, along with the fact that the reasons for invading Iraq have now been revealed to be BS, I think Europeans are more in fear of reprisal attacks from middle eastern fundamentalists, for America’s actions in the Middle east

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
“The New World” is one of the oldest settled constitutional democracies on earth, to a degree “the Old World” can barely comprehend. Where it counts, Americans are traditionalists. We know Eastern Europe was a totalitarian prison until the Nineties, but we forget that Mediterranean Europe (Greece, Spain, Portugal) has democratic roots going all the way back until, oh, the mid-Seventies; France and Germany’s constitutions date back barely half a century, Italy’s only to the 1940s, and Belgium’s goes back about 20 minutes, and currently it’s not clear whether even that latest rewrite remains operative. The U.S. Constitution is not only older than France’s, Germany’s, Italy’s or Spain’s constitution, it’s older than all of them put together. Americans think of Europe as Goethe and Mozart and 12th century castles and 6th century churches, but the Continent’s governing mechanisms are no more ancient than the Partridge Family. Aside from the Anglophone democracies, most of “the west”'s nation states have been conspicuous failures at sustaining peaceful political evolution from one generation to the next, which is why they’re so susceptible to the siren song of Big Ideas �?? Communism, Fascism, European Union. If you’re going to be novelty-crazed, better the zebra-mussel cappuccino than the Third Reich."

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Hmmm…this is a rather complex question.
As you are mentioning Europe,you also mention Eastern Europe,so by Europeans you think about all Europeans.
There are Western Europeans and Eastern Europeans.

They are
totally different-geneticaly,socialy,politicaly and in any other way.
Balkan and Eastern Europe people are mostly Slavics and dont have anything in common with either Spain or Scandinavia or United Kingdom.

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[quote]gatesoftanhauser wrote:
It’s their self-entitled superiority complexes. Euros hate us because they generally think they’re better, whether that be any aspect of their culture: food, exercise, health, militarily (yeah right!!), progressively and behaviorally.

Except for their insistence on a better diet, they’re not better than the US in anything, plain and simple.[/quote]

Yeah?
Thousands years older culture?
Modesty?

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[quote]FightingScott wrote:
Less than 40% of French are proud to be French. [/quote]

Rubbish!

How can anyone in their right mind believe such propaganda?

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[quote]nukepower wrote:
people havent evolved much over the past 200,000 years. [/quote]

I’d contest that, but you seem to be a nice specimen to support your own theory. So suffice it to say that some people haven’t evolved much…

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[quote]electric_eales wrote:
Also another point to bear in mind is that Europeans feel a lot more venerable than Americans for two reasons:

  1. Most European counties have been directly affected and greatly damaged by recent global wars

  2. They are in much more close proximity to the Middle east

This is one of the reasons a lot of Europeans are against the war in Middle east, along with the fact that the reasons for invading Iraq have now been revealed to be BS, I think Europeans are more in fear of reprisal attacks from middle eastern fundamentalists, for America’s actions in the Middle east
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Most Europeans hope a problem goes away without their having to confront it.

Look at the French hiding behind the Maginot Line while Poland got raped. Poland and France had an ironclad treaty that one would attack Germany the moment the other was attacked. Yeah…

If you think that terrorism will go away without confronting it, you are doing a modern Maginot Line.

Some fresh-faced clear eyed teenage boys then have to die on a Normandy beach (this time maybe a Cornwall beach?) for your cowardice.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
electric_eales wrote:
Also another point to bear in mind is that Europeans feel a lot more venerable than Americans for two reasons:

  1. Most European counties have been directly affected and greatly damaged by recent global wars

  2. They are in much more close proximity to the Middle east

This is one of the reasons a lot of Europeans are against the war in Middle east, along with the fact that the reasons for invading Iraq have now been revealed to be BS, I think Europeans are more in fear of reprisal attacks from middle eastern fundamentalists, for America’s actions in the Middle east

Most Europeans hope a problem goes away without their having to confront it.

Look at the French hiding behind the Maginot Line while Poland got raped. Poland and France had an ironclad treaty that one would attack Germany the moment the other was attacked. Yeah…

If you think that terrorism will go away without confronting it, you are doing a modern Maginot Line.

Some fresh-faced clear eyed teenage boys then have to die on a Normandy beach (this time maybe a Cornwall beach?) for your cowardice.

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Can you please explain in detail with references to source information, how invading Iraq is going to deal with the problem of Islamic Extremists committing terrorists attacks on western countries.

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[quote]electric_eales wrote:
Can you please explain in detail with references to source information, how invading Iraq is going to deal with the problem of Islamic Extremists committing terrorists attacks on western countries. [/quote]

It’s pretty obvious really. That is, if we’re to believe the CIA:

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0114-01.htm

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[quote]electric_eales wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
electric_eales wrote:
Also another point to bear in mind is that Europeans feel a lot more venerable than Americans for two reasons:

  1. Most European counties have been directly affected and greatly damaged by recent global wars

  2. They are in much more close proximity to the Middle east

This is one of the reasons a lot of Europeans are against the war in Middle east, along with the fact that the reasons for invading Iraq have now been revealed to be BS, I think Europeans are more in fear of reprisal attacks from middle eastern fundamentalists, for America’s actions in the Middle east

Most Europeans hope a problem goes away without their having to confront it.

Look at the French hiding behind the Maginot Line while Poland got raped. Poland and France had an ironclad treaty that one would attack Germany the moment the other was attacked. Yeah…

If you think that terrorism will go away without confronting it, you are doing a modern Maginot Line.

Some fresh-faced clear eyed teenage boys then have to die on a Normandy beach (this time maybe a Cornwall beach?) for your cowardice.

Can you please explain in detail with references to source information, how invading Iraq is going to deal with the problem of Islamic Extremists committing terrorists attacks on western countries.

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Why? We’ve been over that stuff many times. One person presents a sourced argument, someone responds with their sourced argument, and on and on.

Look, Saddam wanted to close the Straits and get Euros to replace dollars when buying oil. We had to hit them. There ARE more threats to the world than your Muslim neighbors whom you love so much.

You don’t think a global depression (which the Muslims would love) is terrorism?

If you want to see your real threat, read my thread about the interview with Lady Rothschild (If This doesn’t scare you,…). Her, I could truly hate.

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Maybe the europeans in this forum could for once stop feeding this troll…

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[quote]orion wrote:
Let cut the BS and get to the point.

We feel inferior because of the mighty average American penis size.

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“American penis…so big. Ours so small, so very small.”