Why Do Americans Care So Much About Freedom

I do.

Staying on top is a tall order, but still a possibility. China is formidable, but so much is built on top of paper and intellectual property theft, not the social framework that produced the innovations that were worth stealing in the first place. Who knows though, that may be changing with our new-found education priorities that resemble those of China in decades past, while China simultaneously advances new-found education priorities that resemble those of America in decades past.

Solving the social issues that brought down other empires doesn’t strike me as a valid comparison. I suppose it all depends on what you mean by ā€œbring downā€.

Nobody’s checked the leftist lunatics in our midst quite yet. The Democrats are riding that wave at great human cost by American standards. Like I said, it is important to ask ā€œCompared to what?ā€, and in this case I’m not comparing American standards of human cost to Chinese standards. They’re different for obvious reasons.

I think we reach a point where regular Americans have had enough and hopefully still vote our way out of the problem. There is only so much that can be done to shield the bad outcomes from being recognized.

I’ve never read anything she wrote. Never even gave it a shot. I can’t say why and I even liked Rush’s prog-rock album 2112, which was apparently based on her work somehow. Oddly, my brother read all of her books or at least two really thick ones. He also had all of Rush Limbaugh’s books in the late 80’s. What’s with all of the Rush, anyway?

Despite us both being raised conservative Catholic in Indiana farm country and me being the rebellious liberal for my entire youth, he’s now a died-in-the-wool Massachusetts upper middle class liberal. Or at least he married one and is now afraid to say anything otherwise. I’m leaning towards the latter…

What you wrote is pretty much the plot of Atlas Shrugged.

Good for him. Does he miss his testicles, or not really?

You’d have to ask him that question.

I sense internal conflict but I have the sense to leave it alone. I value my relationship with my nieces too much.

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I honestly don’t think anything can be done anymore…it’s too far gone imo

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No question. Anyone who believes it can’t happen here is either naive or just flat out idiotic. You don’t have to be some sort of conspiracy driven doomsday prepper to guard against the dangers of this kind of action. This stuff is important.

I take your meaning directly, but honestly I think that is a trait that everybody should have to one degree or another. People do entirely too many stupid things online.

I think this is quite plausible, even likely. The same thing happened to Roman arrogance and British arrogance. But I think 50 years is probably too short of a period. The decline of the British empire has taken centuries and they are still functioning, albeit at a reduced level. I would not call them a third world nation even with their drastically reduced influence compared to pre-World war one.

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This I do agree with.

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Since we’re heading down this rabbit hole, please let me recommend something to everyone who has doom-and-gloom thoughts, fantasies, or perhaps might enjoy role-playing post-apocalyptic scenarios with your neighborhood D&D group before you wrestle in the yard over political arguments and things go a little too far.

If society has to collapse, I think it would be a lot more fun than the alternative if it collapsed like it did in these books.

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Nor l.
5th largest economy in the world, particularly centered in finance.
Military ranked 5th in the world, with a capabilty of worldwide projection behind only the US.
Finally- a soft power influence through diplomacy, higher education, and entertainment.

British Empire - no. But pretty influential for 60ish million people.

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I tend to agree, though I’d also argue no societal construct in fully sustainable forever. Flawed characters pop up no matter the circumstance who can and do ā€œruin itā€ for everybody.

Rather an inherent way of running a country/society can dictate how vulnerable it is to collapse. Discouraging vice in itself isn’t inherently negative. All demographics, albeit in particular children needn’t be encouraged to partake in unhealthy or self destructive pastimes. By looking at literature available it would appear as if outright clamping down with propaganda, misinformation and draconian legislature ironically leads to higher levels mayhem, death and destruction mediated through vice. Cultures/methodological approaches behind these topics may equate to differing net outcomes as does the geography of a country, but it generally appears discouraging = effective. Draconian penalties = poor outcomes

The notion of barring a behaviour and establishing associated criminal penalties can be a slippery slope. What is deemed ā€œprotecting valuesā€ when referring to an act in the privacy of one’s own home? Does ā€œprotecting valuesā€ merely equate to ā€œI don’t like it, therefore under this law no one canā€?

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This, I have yet to hear of a society that has remained stable since the dawn of semi-modern human civilisation. Vice or no vice, religion or no religion, conservative or progressive; shit happens, civilisations rise up just as they fall. I think we can count our lucky stars we aren’t currently living out our lives during a great world war… just a pandemic… no biggie…

How so? America to my knowledge hasn’t been in this state since like the 1950’s.

Are you advocating for a dictator to come into power? Problem with dictatorships; you like them… until you don’t… then it’s too late.

There’s always the possibility the values/agendas pushed by various members of political factions will change. Ask @Beyond_Beyond (or me, but @Beyond_Beyond was alive during this time) about liberal vs labour now vs 30-40 years ago in Australia.

Defunding the police is a surefire was to turn the United States into South Africa (lol), if this occurs en masse (doubtful) and the consequences are serious (which they almost certainly would be) I’d imagine those pandering towards the goal of neutering the police would be voted out.

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You’re exactly right. The Democrats of today would be fringe lunatics if they ran a decrepit old ghoul who pawed and sniffed scared little girls on the 1992 Democratic primary against a suave, young and saxamaphone-playing Bill Clinton with a solid 16 charisma score. And that’s before any bonus items, by the way.

I imagine the vote count would be somewhere between the open communists, Illinois Nazi’s and the ecological terrorist candidates. Those sexy hippie ladies in Birkenstocks really drew a disproportionate amount of otherwise conservative men into the Green Party and Ralph Nader’s UFO cult or whatever he had going at the time.

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I actually tend to believe this too @BrickHead @Beyond_Beyond

Albeit my belief is more pessimistic. Humanity may be doomed, climate change, the prospect of incoming pandemics/endemics, lack of housing/employment prospects, mass poverty and more are issues that mediate an environment not conductive for continual replication. I don’t think society will delve into some sort of degenerate hellhole unless total economic collapse occurs, I think it’s far more likely we see some sort of ā€œmass extinctionā€ type even within the next 1000 years.

To my knowledge this has been taken out of context. Joe Biden (probably) isn’t a pedophile.

I’ve seen the video of him allegedly behaving inappropriately… I don’t buy it. Many who dislike Joe Biden/democrats will jump at the chance to write a scathing review over it just as those who dislike Trump will jump at any chance to talk smack about him, whether it’s warranted or not

There are many photos of Donald Trump with Jeffrey Epstein… alongside around twenty two convictions for sexual assault; but I’m not going around calling Donald Trump a rapist until he is found guilty by a court of law (or intangible evidence comes to light) as it would be disingenuous to defame one over unproven allegations.

My personal opinion? Do I believe Donald Trump could be capable of something like this? Almost certainly, ditto with Biden. Political figures tend to be enveloped within a sea of narcissism. Many appear to lack any sense of morality

I didn’t say he was. I said he likes to paw and sniff scared little girls. I find it troublesome that I had to scroll, and scroll, and scroll, before I found a youtube video that was remotely close to what I’ve seen before, but I’m really thankful for all of the videos put to the forefront that explained this behavior away.

It is strange that the video is set against a Biden speech that’s just as cringe-worthy, but watch the video and let me know what you think.

Would you like some creep pawing at your daughter or niece like that? What about your wife or girlfriend?

Do you initiate contact like that with other people’s children?

I smell people all the time. That’s my autistic way of saying ā€œhelloā€ (not serious)

Look, the video is disturbing, but without context I can’t really comment. It’s like watching Donald Trump out of context

I don’t like Biden or Trump for the matter. But I really couldn’t get my head around a president tweeting about QANON, ā€œObamagateā€, windmills causing cancer, talking about injecting disinfectant on live television and the likes. I didn’t agree with his policies, or his arrogance and bullying of those within his administration. His prior business practices and track record of unethical transactions/holdouts are astounding and the shit he says on TV/during his speeches? In Aus, at least where I live plenty of people tuned in just to laugh at the guy.

Vested sense of morality aside, I didn’t like Donald Trump because I didn’t like MANY of his policies, but when he did something I agreed with, I spoke up at said ā€œI’m glad Trump did thisā€. My viewpoint may seem one sided, but it isn’t. I would have taken just about any other republican president over Joe Biden any day of the year (aside from Ted Cruz).

There was a lot about Trump I didn’t like too.

But Trump isn’t the president anymore and he didn’t paw and sniff scared little girls. Even if you somehow think he did, he didn’t have the gall to do it live on C-SPAN, over and over again. As bizarre as it sounds, I’ve got more respect for someone who writes his hooker a life-changing check than some old creep who thinks he can fondle children on live TV.

Democrat proxies in private media have banned their numero uno political opponent from making his voice heard.

Nothing to see here folks, just shared American values at work.

Edit, while we’re on the topic of the bizarre and seedy, let us not forget… Somewhere out there is a child whose mother is a stripper, whose father is a crackhead and whose grandfather is the President. I really hope he can rise above his family somehow.

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I’m actually frustrated as hell with the democrats

  • how could they have not found a better candidate?
  • Why is PC culture becoming so omnipresent? People aren’t SO frail and fragile as to be unable to take a joke. if I as an autistic individual make a joke about autism, I should be able to do so without being called an insensitive jerk. Hell, I don’t even care if others want to make these jokes… it’s a joke… so long as the intent isn’t to legitimately hurt/offend
  • What’s the point regarding the defund the police fiasco in the USA? Why… why not shoot for sustainable, minor reforms that might actually benefit society?
  • What’s the point of the excess regulatory practices? Banning consumer products/placing draconian taxation appears to chronically disadvantage the demographics they’re trying to ā€œprotectā€.

I’m also incredibly frustrated with the rallying effect behind Donald Trump and the cult type mentality that appears to have rallied around him. There are many, many, many republican politicians of which are in my opinion more suited to presidency.

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Sowing a little race-based chaos is good for staying in power. Staying in power is good for business.

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The problems America(and most other western nations have) is the disillusionment and destruction of the institutions that made it a great country. You need to stop the communist anti American activities, in all the institutions. This is where the corrosion happens. Its like a computer virus infecting everything, demoralizing and deconstructing, eventually the society collapses upon itself or is so weak it can be taken over with minor resistance because the physical and spiritual ability to defend has been incrementally destroyed.

Have you seen the woke CIA recruitment videos? Pretty much do the opposite of what they are currently doing.

It would need a military coup. Not a Burmese /Myanmar style, where the military never relinquishes power. One that stops any current anti American activity like open the floodgates immigration policy of Biden, and stops the globalization interest groups.There definitely needs to be a clean out and re structuring of the deep state.

That’s quite entertaining and yet profound. You have a knack for saying things. I would buy any book you wrote.

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I don’t like to sound doom and gloom, but when you see it’s own citizens hate their own country, it doesn’t give you much hope for its future