[quote]Vicomte wrote:
It’s like retard strength. You gotta figure a chimp is at most as smart as a retard, so there you go.[/quote]
lol
A documentary was on not too long ago, a 56 year old housewife (completely out of shape and sedentary) lifted a car off her son-in-law who got stuck under it because the jack wasn’t put on properly.
She didn’t just lift it off of her son though, she held it off of him, acting as a jack for 5 fucking minutes until the paramedics came, then held it up with a proper jack.
Afterwards she collapsed due to all the adrenaline in her system.
I would say our strength is there, compared to a chimp, but our minds just don’t allow us to do it, because of other more complicated processes going on in our brains.
This also makes me wonder:
Would a weightlifter be able to lift LESS than the average person in a high adrenaline situation? Simply because they know their limits and would be more aware of what they are about to try?
[quote]sen say wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
It’s like retard strength. You gotta figure a chimp is at most as smart as a retard, so there you go.
lol[/quote]
The laughs are always worth more, from you, Sen.
[quote]blazindave wrote: Remember that we supposedly evolved when the weaker and more intelligent “pre-human” separated from the stronger, dumber counter part.
It could also be that our brain requires much more energy than an ape’s because our brain is so large and complexe. That energy can be used to create muscle if it is not used for the brain.
Supposedly they also have slightly different muscle properties.
It’s definitely very interesting.[/quote]
Yes, but, but, but y’all are fixating on their size and strength, which is pretty interesting. Much more interesting question though is why humans are the dominant species on the planet.
So a group of chimps gets accosted by a lion. What happens? Alpha Male can hold his own in a wrestling match. Even if he loses the lion gets some serious damage and the group carries on with anew Alpha Male.
One really big myth is that in disaster situations people get completely hysterical. That can happen, but it usually doesn’t. What normally happens is they get very quiet, want to talk to each other and also follow any strong lead. (E.g.: in airline disasters, most planes land intact and the people just sit their and die of smoke inhalation or burn to death. Now flight crews are trained to scream orders at the top of their lungs.) FWIW most governmental guidelines assume the hysterical model for people and are designed to make it easier for cleanup rather than help you deal with a disaster. Remember that.
Now let’s look at a group of early humans that gets accosted. One notices the predator and sounds a warning. All the humans as a group face Fluffy. One of the humans picks up a rock. Then the rest of them do. Rather than picking off a straggler as the herd moves on, Fluffy has to contend with incoming fire.
Oh this also gives an answer to those people who think that humans are getting weaker due to civilization. We probably have things like ADHD, autism and so forth precisely because of this sort of human behavior. In certain cases they convey an advantage which the group can use. If an ability saves a group, it will get preserved. This explains why we are seeing the more recently reported explosion in genetic diversity among humans that seems so paradoxical. Societies now pretty much preserve everything.
Food for thought.
And as always, I might just be full of shit…
– jj
WHAT THE FUCK!
"In 2005, a different chimp escaped from California’s Animal Haven Ranch and chewed off a man’s nose and genitals. "
So in all seriousness, If I got in a fight with a chimp, you are telling me it could rip my arms right out of the sockets? I find that kind of hard to believe…
[quote]SamuraiWannaBe wrote:
That’s a female chimp, hairless. Massively muscled, check out how the vascular the forearms are. I don’t even wanna know what the 200 pound male chimp that’s in the news would look like hairless… [/quote]
I see the Arian Brotherhood has even infiltrated the ranks of Ape’s these days…amazing.
Dude! God forbid some crazy scientist makes some kind of monkey-human chimera. They’ll take over for sure, a la’ planet of the apes.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
WHAT THE FUCK!
"In 2005, a different chimp escaped from California’s Animal Haven Ranch and chewed off a man’s nose and genitals. "
So in all seriousness, If I got in a fight with a chimp, you are telling me it could rip my arms right out of the sockets? I find that kind of hard to believe…[/quote]
That was about as far as I got.
Did he eat the nose, then, Hannibal lector like, think to herself ‘you know, this just isn’t what I had a craving for. What else is this human packing?’ went for the nuts, and then, as she chewed ‘yeah. This hit the spot. Mmhh…’
Or was it the other way around?
If all this is true about a chimps strength. Who in there right mind would teach a chimp fuckin’ karate?!? Chuck Norris chimp LOL, I want to see him in ufc doing round house kicks and rippin’ nuts off KARATE CHIMP - YouTube
[quote]Goodfellow wrote:
A documentary was on not too long ago, a 56 year old housewife (completely out of shape and sedentary) lifted a car off her son-in-law who got stuck under it because the jack wasn’t put on properly.
She didn’t just lift it off of her son though, she held it off of him, acting as a jack for 5 fucking minutes until the paramedics came, then held it up with a proper jack.
Afterwards she collapsed due to all the adrenaline in her system.
I would say our strength is there, compared to a chimp, but our minds just don’t allow us to do it, because of other more complicated processes going on in our brains.
This also makes me wonder:
Would a weightlifter be able to lift LESS than the average person in a high adrenaline situation? Simply because they know their limits and would be more aware of what they are about to try?[/quote]
Do you have some link or something? because it just sounds like bullshit. You would think that if humans were naturally capable of lifting thousands of pounds, but only in an extreme situation, that professional powerlifters and strongmen would have devised ways of taking advantage of that. Even if it was an unofficial pull.
Another video with some monkeys to for kicks cause I’m bored as shit LOL chimp sniffin his ass and passing out priceless!!
As to why Chimps are stronger than us. I’d figure it has to do with all the climbing. Not only do they climb, but they climb in any conceivably way. With awkward leverages, and positions. Similar to how professional male gymnasts are often pretty muscular without ever training with weights, but amplified by a few million years worth of evolution.
Humans, though we are primates, and although we are somewhat equipped to climb, have largely evolved away from it. Where chimps continued to use climbing as a means of survival. We adapted to walk, run, jump…etc. But most importantly, our survival was largely a result of thinking. As we became better thinkers and organizers we became more capable of surviving without any innate physical advantages.
I would imagine that proto-humans from hundreds of thousands of years ago, were naturally stronger than we are today.
I think we should start doping Gorillas with Steroids, insulin, and growth hormone.
Just to see what happens.
[quote]Malevolence wrote:
Goodfellow wrote:
A documentary was on not too long ago, a 56 year old housewife (completely out of shape and sedentary) lifted a car off her son-in-law who got stuck under it because the jack wasn’t put on properly.
She didn’t just lift it off of her son though, she held it off of him, acting as a jack for 5 fucking minutes until the paramedics came, then held it up with a proper jack.
Afterwards she collapsed due to all the adrenaline in her system.
I would say our strength is there, compared to a chimp, but our minds just don’t allow us to do it, because of other more complicated processes going on in our brains.
This also makes me wonder:
Would a weightlifter be able to lift LESS than the average person in a high adrenaline situation? Simply because they know their limits and would be more aware of what they are about to try?
Do you have some link or something? because it just sounds like bullshit. You would think that if humans were naturally capable of lifting thousands of pounds, but only in an extreme situation, that professional powerlifters and strongmen would have devised ways of taking advantage of that. Even if it was an unofficial pull. [/quote]
I saw a thing on the science channel where a guy pressed a half-ton boulder off his chest before it crushed him and dragged him off a cliff. Apparently he generated so much force he tore muscles form bone.
It’s a very real phenomenon.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
WHAT THE FUCK!
"In 2005, a different chimp escaped from California’s Animal Haven Ranch and chewed off a man’s nose and genitals. "
So in all seriousness, If I got in a fight with a chimp, you are telling me it could rip my arms right out of the sockets? I find that kind of hard to believe…[/quote]
I don’t. Big cats can do that easy. A friend of mine works with rescued ones and she says that if you get an arm anywhere near one you’ll lose it. Rescued cats are the big ones that rich, stoopid people buy when they are cute little kittens (usually illegally). Her group gets the call as the owners are cowering in their bathrooms after finding out that the kittens do indeed grow up.
Another friend of mine (a cop) relates how they were trying to corner a mountain lion in some residential neighborhood (in CA). Just as they thought they were closing in, it sprinted towards a house and jumped over it landing in the back yard then escaping. True the house was a small one-story stucco job, but…
Chimps have to deal with lions and other big predators plus they grew up getting stalked. Don’t sell them short.
– jj
Yeah… but like, do you have some reading material? because every time that this phenomenon ever comes up it is always “I saw a thing” or “I read somewhere” or “I heard”. I’m just asking for some more concrete data about this, instead of hearsay.
[quote]jj-dude wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
WHAT THE FUCK!
"In 2005, a different chimp escaped from California’s Animal Haven Ranch and chewed off a man’s nose and genitals. "
So in all seriousness, If I got in a fight with a chimp, you are telling me it could rip my arms right out of the sockets? I find that kind of hard to believe…
I don’t. Big cats can do that easy. A friend of mine works with rescued ones and she says that if you get an arm anywhere near one you’ll lose it. Rescued cats are the big ones that rich, stoopid people buy when they are cute little kittens (usually illegally). Her group gets the call as the owners are cowering in their bathrooms after finding out that the kittens do indeed grow up.
Another friend of mine (a cop) relates how they were trying to corner a mountain lion in some residential neighborhood (in CA). Just as they thought they were closing in, it sprinted towards a house and jumped over it landing in the back yard then escaping. True the house was a small one-story stucco job, but…
Chimps have to deal with lions and other big predators plus they grew up getting stalked. Don’t sell them short.
– jj[/quote]
If chimps are retard strong, considering how smart they are, imagine how much retard strength a mountain lion has.
[quote]Malevolence wrote:
Yeah… but like, do you have some reading material? because every time that this phenomenon ever comes up it is always “I saw a thing” or “I read somewhere” or “I heard”. I’m just asking for some more concrete data about this, instead of hearsay. [/quote]
There’s not much out there, apparently.
[quote]Malevolence wrote:
Yeah… but like, do you have some reading material? because every time that this phenomenon ever comes up it is always “I saw a thing” or “I read somewhere” or “I heard”. I’m just asking for some more concrete data about this, instead of hearsay. [/quote]
“Yeah… but like,” go to the local Zoo and start instigating a fight with a chimp.
The rest of us will sit here while you gather the necessary data. Please bring a camcorder so we can at least share the video of you being turned inside-out by Chim Chim.
A woman just got her face ripped off by a chimp while being hit with a shovel and stabbed, and you fucks are asking for proof that they’re stronger than man.
For fuck’s sake people are stupid.