I would say this all makes sense for one to do, but I think when it comes to making laws to mandate such behavior, the justification needs to be rock solid. Is this really even an issue? As you said, people’s pocketbooks dictate their actions (to a large degree for most). If one won’t sell to say homosexuals they are punished financially. Now that baker got fame because of the SCOTUS case and has idiots all over the country supporting him, but I don’t think that is the case with most businesses.
Should it be illegal for YouTube to not do business with groups it thinks are advocating things they don’t agree with?
Ill use the N. Idaho example again. That KFC wouldnt serve my Chineese buddy. There are so few asian people in the vicinity they dont lose money significant money for turning away foreigners. Additionally, the majority of the community seems to hold similar views (IME) so they dont lose business from put-off locals. Many Jim Crow laws (both on the books and unwritten) would still be around if the govt didnt enforce their abolition as large portions of the community in the South fully supported segregation.
With Youtube i think they should be able to not do business with folks promoting hate speech or intentionally inflammatory and/or violent ideas. Err on the side of allowing a video/account, but when a tacticool gravy seal youtube channel goes from discussing the coolest AR-15 attachments and fortifying your suburban foxhole to openly discussing how to control (wink wink) a crowd of BLM protestors with that AR-15 and zombie apocalypse F250, that channel deserves the hook. They can go to Parler.
The govt isnt taking away all the fish. the govt is saying that if Man A hooks a species of fish that he hates, he cannot throw it back… he has to sell it at market for a good profit.
Govt takes away the livilihoods of drug dealers all the time. But we dont actually believe that, we just say how bout you stop selling drugs and do something else.
Ill remind you of the Southern states. Jim crow would likely still be in full effect in many parts if it werent for govt enforcement.
Its taking his business license after he refused to sell certain fish he hooked, and then refused to pay the fines for the infractions.
Fair. I think it would be wrong for society to have no limit to what would be considered a legitimate, allowable livilhood as long as it makes you a living.
Should we have allowed and continue to allow jim crow laws or other racist/bigoted service standards to be enforced by businesses, but not legally by the government? I certainly do not think so.
I think this is a good point in regards to having laws saying a business should have to serve everyone with some obvious exceptions (which have been mentioned).
What about content about political propaganda? It is a tough one to enforce, and appear neutral. What if one side is doing it and another not as much?
Its a really tough issue and one that the social media giants struggle with. Its a tightrope to walk, not only to appear nuetral but also to make sure they arent censoring accurate information that could be true. IMO, its one of those things that doesnt have a perfect solution. If their customers and government regulation keep pushing for nuetrality and greater resources devoted towards fact checking political propoganda the better it will get IMO. But again, I dont think there is ever a perfect solution to it. Err on the side of allowing it, and censor/ban/remove the obvious lies… especially around elections or other important political moments.
The trumpublican party was absolutely on another level with spewing obvious lies and falsehoods, and supporting or condoning conspiracy theories. From Birtherism, to Qanon, to election fraud. FFS they coined the term “alternative facts” within a day after trumps innaguration. It is no wonder that they are accused and found to be guilty of lies and falsehoods at a rate far greater than “the other side”. That is their MO. And its obvious to any nuetral observer. Even with trump out of the picture for just a couple months the GOP has seemed to settle back into “normal” levels of politician smooth talking/lieing.
In Louisiana, Sicilian immigrant store owners were lynched for treating black customers the same as white ones. So some fragile baker can kiss my ass with his hatred hiding behind religion. He’s not brave and he’s not principled; he’s just a weak bigot.
Yeah, that’s part of what I was considering. However, the government can also, for example, take the land of a private citizen to build public infrastructure with compensation based on the average low balled market rate. Now, if it’s being used by a small private business whose profitability relies mostly on it’s geography, that can really ruin it.
It can also nationalize a private business(not sure about the US, but it’s been done temporarily just last year in Commonwealth countries even to large corporations to treat and/or isolate COVID patients with minor symptoms when the hospitals ran out of space by invoking existing British laws).
I didn’t really follow that case but I think he simply fought back after getting sued. I’m thinking the initial demand for monetary compensation was probably absurdly high and that escalated due to other factors cos I’ve seen and helped people out in this shit IRL personally before in stupid, minor situations like a single punch to the face by a 140lb dude($15,000 USD initial demand 20 years ago) in a country where people are way, and I mean WAY, less inclined to resort to litigation than the US.
Shit, a friend of mine in uni got a legal letter from a Punjabi chick whose boyfriend had just passed the bar exam and probably thought he was now some big shot lawyer just like lots of idiots do. She was talking about how she had been burning the midnight oil studying for the exams or something I can’t really remember and this dude just went, “Wow, you’re hardcore!”
A “Kaur” is a female Sikh. She took it as an insult since she thought he was making a racial joke even though he was a humble, soft spoken, polite guy who’s probably one of the nicest guys I’ve ever met. “Hard Kaur” Geddit lol? Fucking laughed my ass off.
What do you call a Sikh who beats his wife everyday?
Didn’t really like the movie but this scene was amazing. There was a re-release for a limited time a long time back and I managed to watch it in the cinema. I almost clapped at the end of the scene.