Why All the Ass Kissing?

3hitter, I don’t have a problem with any other poster here saying they don’t get the attention whore thing etc because they are entitled to their opinion and I can see why they might see it that way. But, you, on the other hand were an active participant, showered the attention (politely or not does not matter) and then when you decided to be disgusted with your own behavior you called us attention whores. That’s fucked up. And just because you admitted this fact doesn’t make you any less of a jackass for make an issue out of it.

TheBodyGuard, I think it’s obvious pictures being posted in SAMA are not for gauging progress. The photo might be taken in that context but I don’t think there is anyone pretending they are anything other than what they are.

That said, if I posted a thread full of my pictures, the non-sexy ones, asking for feedback I doubt I would get any negative criticism anyhow because most guys are not used to critiquing women’s bodies that way. Eh, that’s life. FTR I did create a thread in performance photos and to be honest that felt more like attention whoring than anything I’ve ever posted in SAMA (but comments were respectful! )

But for the love of Christ please quit taking this T-nonesense so fucking seriously. It’s not a religion and you sound like fucking crossfitters with that cult-like crap.

[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
urbanski wrote:
you’re a fucking asshole holymac

lol. you forgot the e.threat to beat me up.

look man, you have missed the point. if alisav wants to posts pics of herself, that’s totally cool. she keeps it to the vixen thread, and you don’t see me posting in there.

all i’m saying is with the amount of pics she puts up, i am unimpressed. especially how she worded her post by talking about how she likes showing off the ‘work’ she has done.

so she keeps a log. great. IMO she’s no different than the hundreds of other dudes who make retarded threads, ask for advice, and then procede to obviously ignore it / don’t follow it.

but of course all those mofos get flamed on it. however, if a girl gets called out on the exact same shit, her little army has to stand up for her.

i have no problem with her. i have a problem with girls posting photos under the guise of ‘oh check out my training results’. it’s stupid, and annoying. and it certainly doesn’t belong ANYWHERE on t.nation, SAMA forum or not

fucking grow up people. [/quote]

Mac, I gotta disagree somewhat, for one to me she looks like a women who while not on a level of getting onstage in a figure contest is in great shape and has a smoking body, which you can tell she works out and stays in good shape. Two, she is posting her pics on threads where it is a little T and A sexiness in SAMA, not a rate my physique am I ready to get on stage type threads in Powerful women or Figure athlete forums.

You, like all of us, should say what we feel. But, that kind of was out of character for you to be mean spirited like that.

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[quote]SmilingPolitely wrote:
Some of you can view those pics as needy, and that’s fine. However, I personally don’t see how posting a few anonymous pics is much different from wearing tight clothes, getting shit faced at a bar and making out with another girl to get some attention (and god knows you assholes fall for this ploy every fucking time). At least here I don’t have to risk getting an STD.
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You’re associating/mixing up the OP and the rest of the similar minded crowd with the crowd the OP was taking a (not so serious, I believe) jab at.

Obvious attention whore is obvious.

[quote]debraD wrote:
But for the love of Christ please quit taking this T-nonesense so fucking seriously. It’s not a religion and you sound like fucking crossfitters with that cult-like crap.[/quote]

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[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
urbanski wrote:
you’re a fucking asshole holymac

lol. you forgot the e.threat to beat me up.

look man, you have missed the point. if alisav wants to posts pics of herself, that’s totally cool. she keeps it to the vixen thread, and you don’t see me posting in there.

all i’m saying is with the amount of pics she puts up, i am unimpressed. especially how she worded her post by talking about how she likes showing off the ‘work’ she has done.

so she keeps a log. great. IMO she’s no different than the hundreds of other dudes who make retarded threads, ask for advice, and then procede to obviously ignore it / don’t follow it.

but of course all those mofos get flamed on it. however, if a girl gets called out on the exact same shit, her little army has to stand up for her.

i have no problem with her. i have a problem with girls posting photos under the guise of ‘oh check out my training results’. it’s stupid, and annoying. and it certainly doesn’t belong ANYWHERE on T-Nation, SAMA forum or not

fucking grow up people. [/quote]

x2

P.S.

I wouldn’t threaten, Holy Mac. The man can rappel upside down with a gun in his hand. Imagine a Silver Back gorilla preparing to assassinate you. Sure, the gun could jam, but the Silver Back would still rip your genitals off with his bare hands.

[quote]SmilingPolitely wrote:
Wow, this thread is like a 10 car pile up; I just can’t stop looking at the carnage!

To the guys who support the OP, most of us who posted in “protest” were not denying the fact that it is childish to post. I’ve accepted that it is for attention and a little pick me up. So sue me. Do you drink to take the edge off? Does that make you an alcoholic or do you realize that what you are doing is probably not the most constructive thing in the world, but it feels good? [/quote]

I can’t believe I’m getting sucked into this but your post in defense of your behavior deserves a response. Those of us that object, see it for what it is. What do you add by admitting it’s “look at me”? It’s needy, and screams of insecurity and pathology. From what I can tell, you appear to be an attractive lady. Beauty is cheap. Have some damn dignity. If you need to post pics on the internet for a “pick me up”, I’m sorry miss, but you have issues. Don’t expect me either celebrate or feed your issues.

[quote]SmilingPolitely wrote:
Some of you can view those pics as needy, and that’s fine. However, I personally don’t see how posting a few anonymous pics is much different from wearing tight clothes, getting shit faced at a bar and making out with another girl to get some attention (and god knows you assholes fall for this ploy every fucking time). At least here I don’t have to risk getting an STD. [/quote]

All the above is equally distasteful. Men and women are equally guilty of “peacocking”. It screams insecurity. Whether or not you can contract an STD here is irrelevant. It’s a matter of dignity.

[quote]SmilingPolitely wrote:
Are you angry with the guys who reply positively to pics posted? If you go to a titty bar you tip the dancer, right? I know this has been said a million times already, but if you don’t think it is right to tip her, then don’t go into the fucking club. Compliments keep the thread moving. If you check out the thread and don’t comment, that’s fine but don’t give the guys who do any shit because without them there is no thread. It is fun and flirty. Stop taking it so damn seriously. [/quote]

In all honest, I have no anger about this issue at all. The only anger I can detect is from those that want to flame the OP. I just think guys “begging” for pictures is transparent and corny. I rather feed someone earnestly in need of a compliment or input that waste food feeding your needy pathology to be noticed. I don’t go to titty bars for much the same reason. I wouldn’t dream of paying a woman to sit on my lap. I don’t think anyone is taking any of this seriously, and I don’t think there is an object to other men “commenting”. It’s the begging that is comical.

[quote]SmilingPolitely wrote:
OK, there are 4 T-Vixen threads (I don’t know how long it has been going on) and about 15,000 other posts about guys drooling over girls, posting pics of asses, celebrities, complaining how much girls suck, complaining that girls don’t suck enough, complaining that women don’t appreciate you, complaining that women are out of control, complaining girls are stuck up. Every other post in SAMA is some guy bitching like a prom queen with her underwear inside out. [/quote]

All the above is a far cry from you screaming “notice me” to a bunch of anonymous internet “friends”. Like I said before, have some dignity. You appear to be a good looking girl. Now work on “you” - obviously you’re missing something if you need attention on the internet.

Those are the posts that make me question what kind of men post on this site, not a couple of guys who can innocently engage in a little sexual banter to pass the time.

You want to call me needy because I enjoy getting compliments from strangers on the internet, that is fine. Perhaps the OP started this thread because he has a need to feel superior to strangers on the internet. Today’s society has everyone so fucked up in the head that I don’t think there is a single “sane” person left in the world.

We all have needs, desires, addictions and to think you are better than someone else because yours are different is not just arrogant, but ignorant. In the immortal words of Barry Bonds, “When your closet is clean, you can come clean somebody else’s”.

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You filtering this thru your personal pathos to make the OP out as needing to feel “superior” is actually just a reflection of your poor self esteem. We have alread established that the likes of you are “needy” and you admitted it. Where’s the argument? The internet is full of images. I don’t see a need to beg the likes of you to supply one. That the likes of me does not choose to participate in feeding your pathos, does not imply I (or anyone else that understands the argument) am attempting to be superior, or that I’m angry. Your seeing yourself as “inferior” in some manner, does not automatically make our objections to your attention whoring as being “superior”. We all have our pathos, it’s just that some of us try not to act them out publically.

Wow. Seriously. What the hell has happened to this site? At least the OP had the decency to post in the GAL forum. To many people on here, take everything to heart. If you really are happy, do have a good interesting life and don’t like a certain part of the site. Why would you really care enough to be on the internet typing long winded rants to strangers about bullshit? Seems contradicting.

I’m on here to have fun, joke, talk lifting, meet cool people (OMG and some of those happen to be sexy women!!). Not here to read rants from older disgruntled guys about “What a real T-Man” is. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit.

Yet there’s only one thing that has to be said about this “Mind your own fucking business”, problem solved.

[quote]Carlitosway wrote:
Wow. Seriously. What the hell has happened to this site? At least the OP had the decency to post in the GAL forum. To many people on here, take everything to heart. If you really are happy, do have a good interesting life and don’t like a certain part of the site. Why would you really care enough to be on the internet typing long winded rants to strangers about bullshit? Seems contradicting.

I’m on here to have fun, joke, talk lifting, meet cool people (OMG and some of those happen to be sexy women!!). Not here to read rants from older disgruntled guys about “What a real T-Man” is. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit.

Yet there’s only one thing that has to be said about this “Mind your own fucking business”, problem solved. [/quote]

But aren’t you breaking the “Mind Your Own Fucking Business” rule by replying?

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
You filtering this thru your personal pathos to make the OP out as needing to feel “superior” is actually just a reflection of your poor self esteem. We have alread established that the likes of you are “needy” and you admitted it. Where’s the argument? The internet is full of images. I don’t see a need to beg the likes of you to supply one. That the likes of me does not choose to participate in feeding your pathos, does not imply I (or anyone else that understands the argument) am attempting to be superior, or that I’m angry. Your seeing yourself as “inferior” in some manner, does not automatically make our objections to your attention whoring as being “superior”. We all have our pathos, it’s just that some of us try not to act them out publically.
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I think you missed the part where the OP actively participated in the threads he is so disgusted with. I suspect he read though every page of each one too.

Anyway, I don’t consider myself in any way needy. I post here for fun. Dignity? Who gives a fuck. It’s the internet, a playground. My real life is quite dignified :stuck_out_tongue: Lighten up. I don’t ‘need’ any of it.

[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Carlitosway wrote:
Wow. Seriously. What the hell has happened to this site? At least the OP had the decency to post in the GAL forum. To many people on here, take everything to heart. If you really are happy, do have a good interesting life and don’t like a certain part of the site. Why would you really care enough to be on the internet typing long winded rants to strangers about bullshit? Seems contradicting.

I’m on here to have fun, joke, talk lifting, meet cool people (OMG and some of those happen to be sexy women!!). Not here to read rants from older disgruntled guys about “What a real T-Man” is. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit.

Yet there’s only one thing that has to be said about this “Mind your own fucking business”, problem solved.

But aren’t you breaking the “Mind Your Own Fucking Business” rule by replying?
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Oh k you got me, you bastard:D! Ok I shall change it to “Mind your own fucking business, most of the time”

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
You filtering this thru your personal pathos to make the OP out as needing to feel “superior” is actually just a reflection of your poor self esteem. We have alread established that the likes of you are “needy” and you admitted it. Where’s the argument? The internet is full of images. I don’t see a need to beg the likes of you to supply one. That the likes of me does not choose to participate in feeding your pathos, does not imply I (or anyone else that understands the argument) am attempting to be superior, or that I’m angry. Your seeing yourself as “inferior” in some manner, does not automatically make our objections to your attention whoring as being “superior”. We all have our pathos, it’s just that some of us try not to act them out publically.
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Alright Dr. Phil sit back for a sec. Laughing my ass off at the thought of some random stranger “diagnosing” another persons self-esteem through a computer none the less. That’s pathetic in every sense of the word. You know it and we all know it. Most of these people you’ll never ever meet in real life. Yet here I see you dissecting, analyzing and coming up with some off the wall assumption. You should be disgustingly ashamed of yourself. Really.

[quote]debraD wrote:

I think you missed the part where the OP actively participated in the threads he is so disgusted with. I suspect he read though every page of each one too.

Anyway, I don’t consider myself in any way needy. I post here for fun. Dignity? Who gives a fuck. It’s the internet, a playground. My real life is quite dignified :stuck_out_tongue: Lighten up. I don’t ‘need’ any of it.

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Yes, I did miss it. As I said, it was too long, and I just skimmed it, but thought and still think I get the point.

Lookit, I’m not looking to pschoanalyze you or anyone else. I don’t care. I was giving my support to what I thought was the jist of OPs post. It wasn’t intended to be an indictment of anyone specifically that either posts pics or “begs” for them. To each their own, I truly don’t care. Besides, you’re not asking for my opinion about your self esteem. But one thing I assure you of, the internet is still “real life”. So, I don’t buy much of what you’re trying to sell me right now - not that you care, but I’m not buying.

carlitosway has a hot sister.

just saying

[quote]Carlitosway wrote:

Alright Dr. Phil sit back for a sec. Laughing my ass off at the thought of some random stranger “diagnosing” another persons self-esteem through a computer none the less. That’s pathetic in every sense of the word. You know it and we all know it. Most of these people you’ll never ever meet in real life. Yet here I see you dissecting, analyzing and coming up with some off the wall assumption. You should be disgustingly ashamed of yourself. Really.

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Hypocrite. Anyway…that you won’t “meet” someone “here” in “real life” is not an excuse to shed your dignity - if you had any. Given the tone of many of your posts, I fully expect my sentiment will be lost upon you. And, should I be disgusted with myself? Or just ashamed? Disgustingly ashamed? Really? And tell me, how many women would you fall in love with and respect that had a history of attention whoring their pictures on the internet. I’m really interested in an earnest answer.

[quote]debraD wrote:

I think you missed the part where the>> OP actively participated in the threads he is so disgusted with.<< I suspect he read though every page of each one too.

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Kind of like you and this one?
Did I say “disgusted?”
Debra your missing the big picture. Try your wide angle lens.

You don’t need to post anymore. Someone will be here shortly to defend you.

You know BodyGuard, I had a long reply typed out and decided against. I actually enjoy the back and forth and banter. I get involved in arguments like this to get riled up. It’s fun. I’m Italian, so fighting is in my blood. You should see me arguing baseball after a few pints.

I’m done justifying myself and not quite sure why I got caught up in it in the first place. I guess I just can’t let hypocrisy go by unnoticed.

Think whatever you want about the reasons I do what I do. I wish I had such accurate insight about people on the internet as you do.

[quote]3hitter wrote:
debraD wrote:

I think you missed the part where the>> OP actively participated in the threads he is so disgusted with.<< I suspect he read though every page of each one too.

Kind of like you and this one?
Did I say “disgusted?”
Debra your missing the big picture. Try your wide angle lens.

You don’t need to post anymore. Someone will be here shortly to defend you.[/quote]

So can get a listing of who’s on who’s side? Because if the numbers are uneven, I’ll join your side 3hitter. You need all the help you can get.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Carlitosway wrote:

Alright Dr. Phil sit back for a sec. Laughing my ass off at the thought of some random stranger “diagnosing” another persons self-esteem through a computer none the less. That’s pathetic in every sense of the word. You know it and we all know it. Most of these people you’ll never ever meet in real life. Yet here I see you dissecting, analyzing and coming up with some off the wall assumption. You should be disgustingly ashamed of yourself. Really.

Hypocrite. Anyway…that you won’t “meet” someone “here” in “real life” is not an excuse to shed your dignity - if you had any. Given the tone of many of your posts, I fully expect my sentiment will be lost upon you. And, should I be disgusted with myself? Or just ashamed? Disgustingly ashamed? Really? And tell me, how many women would you fall in love with and respect that had a history of attention whoring their pictures on the internet. I’m really interested in an earnest answer.

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If I was a close minded prick, of course it would bother me. Yet if it’s something they like to do and enjoy. Who am I to judge some ones character based on some racy pics? Why would I allow this to stop me from possibly meeting a good fun loving person?

[quote]WolBarret wrote:
3hitter wrote:
debraD wrote:

I think you missed the part where the>> OP actively participated in the threads he is so disgusted with.<< I suspect he read though every page of each one too.

Kind of like you and this one?
Did I say “disgusted?”
Debra your missing the big picture. Try your wide angle lens.

You don’t need to post anymore. Someone will be here shortly to defend you.

So can get a listing of who’s on who’s side? Because if the numbers are uneven, I’ll join your side 3hitter. You need all the help you can get.

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I like you being neutral. Your good at proding both sides. Beside, I’m not good with internet friends. I just enjoy a hot topic. Brings out that inter…net fire. Makes a boring friday go right by. Shit, before everyone knows it some may be at the bar having a happy hour drink together. How messed up is that?