neelydan thinks there are quite a few different nauseating elements to this thread
[quote]Carlitosway wrote:
lol Man you guys crack me up. She’s my little baby sister FFS:D…I would rather not see her plastered all over these walls and hear some absurd remarks! You guys have a pm feature, hmac probably has a folder saved full of her pics.ha[/quote]
folder? jesus carlitos, i’ve got a goddamn full size paper-mache doll set up in the corner of my room with her face printed out and stapled to the head.
sometimes i’ll put it in my car and drive in the HOV lane on the freeway
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Carlitosway wrote:
JPCleary wrote:
HolyMacaroni wrote:
JPCleary wrote:
HolyMacaroni wrote:
carlitosway has a hot sister.
just saying
Let’s get back to this for a second…
…Mac, you got pics?
yes, but being the gentleman i am, you’ll have to get carlos’ permission first.
How 'bout it Carlos?
lol Man you guys crack me up. She’s my little baby sister FFS:D…I would rather not see her plastered all over these walls and hear some absurd remarks! You guys have a pm feature, hmac probably has a folder saved full of her pics.ha
If she’s hispanic, I want the photos. NOW![/quote]
x2.
PM or posting it, whatever. Let’s get these pics.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
You didn’t question any “context”. You took a potshot. Or have you PMed her a dick shot and she wasn’t interested and now you’re exacting your revenge?[/quote]
dude you’re a fucking prick.
SHE typed this first “I am not just in it to show off.”
i think that’s bullshit. so i called it. what else do you want from me? where did i go wrong here?
[quote]NeelyDan wrote:
neelydan thinks there are quite a few different nauseating elements to this thread
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Thanks NeelyDan for adding the only reasonable statement in the last three pages of this thread
You crazy bastard
[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
pushharder wrote:
A true attention whore is someone who feels compelled to criticize beautiful, hard working women on a thread like this one. It accomplishes nothing but drawing attention to the critical one.
Ironic, isn’t it?
oye.
first off, i am a self admitted attention whore. no problem in that.
second, her beauty was never in question. training ethic and motives moreso.
hard working? hahahha. Forums - T Nation - The World's Trusted Community for Elite Fitness
i’d say about half way down that page. video
imagine if i posted some shit like that. hell, i’d be banned from the Nation! but we’ll just pat her ass and tell her to do better because she has long hair and ta ta’s.
rubbish i tell you. you should know i admire women just as much as you push, i was only questioning the context in which the photos where put up[/quote]
HM, give the girl a break dude. I understand you questioning the SAMA pics and the attention whoring, but this is training your ragging on now so let’s get real. She’s trying. She’s in the gym and she’s trying to deadlift. Everyone starts somewhere and no one starts out perfect. I’d rather see a girl try to deadlift and fail than spend all her time lifting 5lbs weights.
If the SAMA crowd wants to pat her ass and tell her to do better, that’s just because it’s in the nature of a lot of men to do that. I hope she takes her training advice from another more impartial source.
[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
I’m trying to wrap my head around the concept referred to on here as begging. So is flirting and asking for a picture begging? Doesn’t seem like begging to me, just playful dialogue. I always thought begging was “please please please let me see a picture of you. I’ll do anything you want!” I can’t speak for everyone of course, but I doubt many people’s lives hang in the balance depending on whether or not one of the hot chicks posts new pictures.
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My thoughts exactly. What some of you construe as “begging” is mere internet flirting.
[quote]dianab wrote:
HM, give the girl a break dude. I understand you questioning the SAMA pics and the attention whoring, but this is training your ragging on now so let’s get real. She’s trying. She’s in the gym and she’s trying to deadlift. Everyone starts somewhere and no one starts out perfect. I’d rather see a girl try to deadlift and fail than spend all her time lifting 5lbs weights.
If the SAMA crowd wants to pat her ass and tell her to do better, that’s just because it’s in the nature of a lot of men to do that. I hope she takes her training advice from another more impartial source.[/quote]
diana,
all i wanted to do was put out that first post. she responded and then taht was that. but these dudes that want to play big boy and knight in shining armor only reinforce the issue.
it’s stupid, and if they want to keep putting her on a fucking pedestal then i’ll keep bringing her back down.
of course i’d like to see a girl deadlift. however, what i’d like to see on HERE is guys seperate the SAMA from the rest of the shit. and i’d like to see girls that are here just for the attention not masquerade (sp?) like there here to lift and get strong and shit.
Wow,looks like this has just turned into the crucify HM thread. Seems to me like everyone needs to lighten the fuck up.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
TheBodyGuard wrote:
pushharder wrote:
A true attention whore is someone who feels compelled to criticize beautiful, hard working women on a thread like this one. It accomplishes nothing but drawing attention to the critical one.
Ironic, isn’t it?
Please, you and your old lady would double team a fish of sufficient size if it stopped moving long enough. You’re not on my short list of references for moral guidance. No one is criticizing anyone specific, unless of course they are putting themselves in the cross fire as some are now. The practice of posting and begging is being criticized. Only those that feel they have something to defend or here confessing LOL. Don’t you have an orgy to attend somewhere? I hope we didn’t scare the game from your bait field.
Precisely the opposite, Mort. One woman in particular was specifically criticized. I actually have little problem with the criticism of the actual begging although I am ambivalent about it.
The rest of your post smacks of a basement dwelling simpleton who uses his Firefox multi tab function to click back and forth between the T-Nation and NAMBLA websites on any given day.
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Wowza. That was clever. NAMBLA? That was random eh? Who was criticized in particular that didn’t come here and put themselves in the cross fire? Did OP mention a specific person? Because if he did, I missed it. At any rate, given your admitted sexual proclivities and seeming lack of sexual boundries, you’d be much more open to a NAMBLA hook up than would I. I’m wondering how that obscure reference would be so easily retrievable in your mind. I will have to check out Firefox though. Thanks for the tip.
[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
dude you’re a fucking prick.
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I haven’t read much of this thread but I’ve read enough to be amazed you guys are fighting over such a petty topic.
I freaking love seeing the T-Vixen photos and training videos. Psychoanalyzing myself and why I like it so much is the last thing on my mind. That and wondering what the motivation is for the vixens. I only care enough to hope they keep posting.
I throw a few compliments out there, but if I said as much as goes through my mind, some of them would get a restraining order on me.
[quote]LarryDavid wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
Carlitosway wrote:
JPCleary wrote:
HolyMacaroni wrote:
JPCleary wrote:
HolyMacaroni wrote:
carlitosway has a hot sister.
just saying
Let’s get back to this for a second…
…Mac, you got pics?
yes, but being the gentleman i am, you’ll have to get carlos’ permission first.
How 'bout it Carlos?
lol Man you guys crack me up. She’s my little baby sister FFS:D…I would rather not see her plastered all over these walls and hear some absurd remarks! You guys have a pm feature, hmac probably has a folder saved full of her pics.ha
If she’s hispanic, I want the photos. NOW!
x2.
PM or posting it, whatever. Let’s get these pics.[/quote]
See what you started Hmac!!! You son of a bitch!!!
[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
dianab wrote:
HM, give the girl a break dude. I understand you questioning the SAMA pics and the attention whoring, but this is training your ragging on now so let’s get real. She’s trying. She’s in the gym and she’s trying to deadlift. Everyone starts somewhere and no one starts out perfect. I’d rather see a girl try to deadlift and fail than spend all her time lifting 5lbs weights.
If the SAMA crowd wants to pat her ass and tell her to do better, that’s just because it’s in the nature of a lot of men to do that. I hope she takes her training advice from another more impartial source.
diana,
all i wanted to do was put out that first post. she responded and then taht was that. but these dudes that want to play big boy and knight in shining armor only reinforce the issue.
it’s stupid, and if they want to keep putting her on a fucking pedestal then i’ll keep bringing her back down.
of course i’d like to see a girl deadlift. however, what i’d like to see on HERE is guys seperate the SAMA from the rest of the shit. and i’d like to see girls that are here just for the attention not masquerade (sp?) like there here to lift and get strong and shit.[/quote]
I think it’s funny you were worried about spelling masquerade wrong and then you used “there” incorrectly (it shoulda been they’re … just saying I lol’d)
On another note, am I the only one who thinks this whole conversation has gone completely in a weird direction. I mean we got HM defending an innocuous comment for 3 pages; some guy who has a problem with T&A;
It’s like I’m in some weird Earth where Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize without doing anything, we have a mannequin as Speaker of the House, and Scarlett Johansen is married.
wait…
[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
of course i’d like to see a girl deadlift. however, what i’d like to see on HERE is guys seperate the SAMA from the rest of the shit. and i’d like to see girls that are here just for the attention not masquerade (sp?) like there here to lift and get strong and shit.[/quote]
Then we agree, although I think that the girl in question is actually trying to get strong. I’m giving her the benefit of the doubt since she does keep a training log. Although in general, it’s hard for me to take a woman seriously as an athlete when I see there are more pics of her in SAMA than anywhere else.
It seems that a lot of men can’t take a training vid of a woman for what it is: an opportunity to either learn or share lifting knowledge. Ya’ll might find deadlifts and squats sexy as hell, but that doesn’t help those of us trying to perform better.
[quote]red04 wrote:
TheBodyGuard wrote:
pushharder wrote:
A true attention whore is someone who feels compelled to criticize beautiful, hard working women on a thread like this one. It accomplishes nothing but drawing attention to the critical one.
Ironic, isn’t it?
Please, you and your old lady would double team a fish of sufficient size if it stopped moving long enough. You’re not on my short list of references for moral guidance. No one is criticizing anyone specific, unless of course they are putting themselves in the cross fire as some are now. The practice of posting and begging is being criticized. Only those that feel they have something to defend or here confessing LOL. Don’t you have an orgy to attend somewhere? I hope we didn’t scare the game from your bait field.
You’re kind of contradicting yourself though aren’t you? At first it was that the only people defending the Vixen threads were the desperate, insecure, virgin trolls of the nation. Now it’s a morals thing?
Some of you people have serious issues with separating the internet/the real world. Someone can look at attractive women on the internet and still be doing fine in the real world(how do you think some of the hot wives/girlfriends come about?) Projecting insecurity onto them because you think you are some professor of psychology with great insight into their life from a few posts on a forum is silly. You don’t know these people, chances are they are 100% aware that Deb isn’t going give them a webcam strip show, or that CBear isn’t leaving her gigantic powerlifter boyfriend to come suck their dick anytime soon. Why you have trouble disassociating this behavior is baffling to me. Do you also assume that every large individual on this site(yourself included?) is actually a nerdy insecure kid who is still making up for being bullied in high school?
In summary: get over yourself.[/quote]
You are a good illustration for what is wrong with the power of the written word if it is allowed to go unchallenged. Please be more specific about where I have contradicted myself. Go ahead, I’ll wait. Please reference where I labled anyone “desperate, insecure, virgin trolls of the nation”. And, where did I raise morals per se? Again, go ahead, I’ll wait.
That the internet is still the real world and you don’t get it is frankly, bewildering to me. Should I list the instances where the internet and the “real world” have collided, both in positive and negative ways? Please, the idea that the internet is not the “real world” is cliched and just plain wrong. It’s not worthy of serious discussion.
I have no idea what the rest of your post is about. For crying out loud, one girl came here and admitted it was for attention. You don’t need a psych degree to decipher that. And by the way, I actually do see terrible insecurity in most other men that work out, large or not. I see insecurity everywhere I look. Hell, insecurity is at the heart of damn near every fight each weekend in the bar or club. So yes, I think a lot of fellas have some issues. Flame me for it - I’m sure you will. I aint here running for office. Have at it.
In summary: I have nothing to get over. I’m quite balanced and humble.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
SmilingPolitely wrote:
You know BodyGuard, I had a long reply typed out and decided against. I actually enjoy the back and forth and banter. I get involved in arguments like this to get riled up. It’s fun. I’m Italian, so fighting is in my blood. You should see me arguing baseball after a few pints.
I’m done justifying myself and not quite sure why I got caught up in it in the first place. I guess I just can’t let hypocrisy go by unnoticed.
Think whatever you want about the reasons I do what I do. I wish I had such accurate insight about people on the internet as you do.
Well thanks for sparing me the long post. And please don’t forget, you basically admitted to attention whoring. You put yourself out there by your own admission - not me. If you’re going to throw me a slow ball pitch, don’t be mad when my bat makes contact with the ball and I’m off running to first. As far as hypocrisy and I are concerned, I would challenge you to find me caught in it. Show me one post where I “baby please baby please baby baby baby pleased” for some pics or, where I posted my own vanity pics? You may not agree with me and I not with you, but I am consistent and hardly a hypocrite.
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The fact that you think this was what I was arguing is sad to me. You don’t have to post pics to be an attention whore. I would argue that there are those who gain personal satisfaction by feeling like a big man on the internet. This act reflects a similar “need” within the individual to dominate a conversation.
My argument was this desire is similar to being happy that someone said you look good. Basically we all have a similar “desire” and how we get our “needs” met varies. There in lies the hypocrisy I was addressing; not of a single person, but of the situation in general.
If you wish to have a discussion like an adult you can drop the personal attacks and address the matter at hand.
I miss the days when LiveFromThe781 used to post here. Everyone was happy back then.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
A true attention whore is someone who feels compelled to criticize beautiful, hard working women on a thread like this one. It accomplishes nothing but drawing attention to the critical one.
Ironic, isn’t it? [/quote]
And a white knight is someone who thinks that if he defends some poor helpless maiden she’ll suck his cock.
Why don’t you go out and get laid and quit defending the attention whores?