Who's Pulling the Strings?

[quote]pookie wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
pookie wrote:
Guess they both bought a copy of Warmongering For Dummies

My Magnum Opus.

I’ll send you an autographed copy with a list of “well meaning, but deluded anonymous” meetings near you.

Let me know when you’ll be attending and I’ll swing buy at the close to buy you a beer.
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LOL, pretty good man, but ya know denial really is pretty typical =]

[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
Just you wait.Now you’ve done it.

The Black Silent Helicopters will be hovering over your house in the next 30 seconds,and then you’ll be taken away and replaced by a lizard shape shifter.

Goodbye,you incredulous person!![/quote]

That’sss ssssimply ssssilly ridiculoussss nonssssensssse.


Looking buffed there ,Pookie

[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
Looking buffed there ,Pookie[/quote]

Need moisssturizzzer.

I don’t see why the world could NOT be conspiratorical in nature. Communication between individuals/groups is practically instantaneous and surely intelligent people must look at elections with disgust. Why NOT simply put up dummy candidates who’ll do your bidding in exchange for being on the inside?

Look at how the media kept pushing Obama. That’s a simple example of a conspiracy right there.

No one will ever be able to prove the existence of a ruling group, as anyone who got close could just be ‘suicided’ or have a massive ‘coronary’. And given how crazy the world is, it may be for the best. Pets in a cage have a higher quality of life than wild animals.

That is, of course, a matter of preference.

Unfortunately even with hard, factual evidence that one could not deny most would still not believe because it would shatter the very foundation of their beliefs they have known their whole life. Thus it would cause them to look at their life and themselves in a way they never have before. That fact alone is far more scary for one to endure than some “conspiracy theory”. Most would rather chase after some form of escapism, ie drugs, gambling, sex, work, attention, money, etc, than chase after any kind of “truth”, both within and without…

[quote]Mack wrote:
Unfortunately even with hard, factual evidence that one could not deny most would still not believe because it would shatter the very foundation of their beliefs they have known their whole life. Thus it would cause them to look at their life and themselves in a way they never have before. That fact alone is far more scary for one to endure than some “conspiracy theory”. Most would rather chase after some form of escapism, ie drugs, gambling, sex, work, attention, money, etc, than chase after any kind of “truth”, both within and without…[/quote]

Feel free to present “hard,factual evidence”.

The kind that will stand up to scrutiny.I’ll read anything you post,any link.

But please refrain from posting supposition dressed up as fact,and smug bullshit opinion as truth.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=freedom+to+facism&emb=0#

http://www.8thestate.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=50&Itemid=62

read the transcript or listen to the audio.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6507136891691870450&ei=CDsaSY7sF4n0-wGFqpDDDQ&q=creature+from+jekyll+island

How’s that to start?

here’s a couple more…

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1981225573970187433&ei=_jwaSZysNZKYrQLC5uTEDQ&q=who+killed+john+oneil

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5584510125747680812&ei=zzwaSYC1PJLAqALJ3OjMAg&q=holes+in+heaven

[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
Mack wrote:
Unfortunately even with hard, factual evidence that one could not deny most would still not believe because it would shatter the very foundation of their beliefs they have known their whole life. Thus it would cause them to look at their life and themselves in a way they never have before. That fact alone is far more scary for one to endure than some “conspiracy theory”. Most would rather chase after some form of escapism, ie drugs, gambling, sex, work, attention, money, etc, than chase after any kind of “truth”, both within and without…

Feel free to present “hard,factual evidence”.

The kind that will stand up to scrutiny.I’ll read anything you post,any link.

But please refrain from posting supposition dressed up as fact,and smug bullshit opinion as truth.[/quote]

Now that’s what I’m talking about.

[quote]Mack wrote:
Regular Gonzalez wrote:
Mack wrote:
In 2003, Stephen Harper and Australian Prime Minister John Howard deliver largely identical speeches urging their nations to join George W. Bush’s Coalition of the Willing to go to war with Iraq.

What exactly is your point?

Harpers speechwriter plagiarized Howards speech. I don’t see how this relates to who is “pulling the strings”.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the world in which you have your being is not what it appears to be. There is so much more to what’s going on than if I had to put a number on it, I’d say 95+% would not be able to comprehend or understand. You must start to ask questions, then find the answers yourself. The truth is making its way out (via the internet) and the one’s in power know that. That is the one thing they cannot control YET!!! There has NEVER been a time in human history where we had access to not only information we never had before but also a means to spread it to one another like never before. Bear in mind as we speak, billions of dollars are being spent on the internet. Make no mistake, NOTHING in this world happens by happenstance. Just keeping this conversation on the superficial (3D physical) level, there is more information/truth than what the average person will be able to comprehend. SO I will not even bother to go further…

And you can poke fun or make your cracks about lizard people and aliens all you want. But believe me, you would not believe on how interconnected and intertwined just about every aspect of our society is, who exactly is involved, how long this has been in the works for and what their plans are. If you think for one moment your world is about going to work, being stressed, struggling, wondering why society is all f’ed up and getting worse, why they don’t seem to have control of the financial system in America, you better wake up.

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Cool,

You didn’t answer my question though. How does Harper reading out a heavily plagiarized speech relate to any of this?

[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
Isn’t it those lizard shape shifters that are in charge?[/quote]

Correct

http://www.subversiveelement.com/AliensReptoidsIckeShifters.html

Here’s my favorite part:

"Then there are the experiences of Cathy O’Brien, the mind controlled slave of the United States government for more than 25 years, which she details in her astonishing book, “Trance Formation Of America”, written with Mark Phillips.

She was sexually abused as a child and as an adult by a stream of famous people named in her book. Among them were the US Presidents, Gerald Ford, Bill Clinton and, most appallingly, George Bush, a major player in the Brotherhood, as my books and others have long exposed. It was Bush, a paedophile and serial killer, who regularly abused and raped Cathy’s daughter, Kelly O’Brien, as a toddler before her mother’s courageous exposure of these staggering events forced the authorities to remove Kelly from the mind control programme known as Project Monarch.

Cathy writes in “Trance Formation Of America” of how George Bush was sitting in front of her in his office in Washington DC when, he opened a book at a page depicting lizard-like aliens from a far off, deep space place. Bush then claimed to be an ‘alien’ himself and appeared, before her eyes, to transform ‘like a chameleon’ into a reptile.

Cathy believed that some kind of hologram had been activated to achieve this and from her understanding at the time I can see why she rationalized her experience in this way. Anyone would, because the truth is too fantastic to comprehend until you see the build up of evidence. There’s no doubt that alien based mind programmes are part of these mind control projects and that the whole UFO/extraterrestrial scene is being massively manipulated, not least through Hollywood films designed to mold public thinking.

Cathy says in her book that George Lucas, the producer of Star Wars, is an operative with NASA and the National Security Agency, the ‘parent’ body of the CIA. But given the evidence presented by so many other people, I don’t believe that what Bush said and Cathy saw was just a mind control programme. I think he was revealing the Biggest Secret, that a reptilian race from another dimension has been controlling the planet for thousands of years. I know other people who have seen Bush shape-shift into a reptilian."

I also liked this part:

"Hunter S. Thompson in his book, “Fear and Loathing, In Las Vegas,” describes seeing reptiles while in a drugged condition and a guy I met in the United States (in those 15 days I mentioned earlier) told me a similar story.

He ‘tripped’ on a large amounts of LSD in the 1960s and in his seriously mind-altered state he would see some people as humans and others as humanoid lizards and other reptiles. For a while he believed that he was merely hallucinating, but as a regular ‘tripper’ at high doses he began to realize that what he was seeing, usually by the third day of a five-day ‘trip’, was not an hallucination, but the vibratory veils lifting which allowed him to see beyond the physical to the force controlling the person.

In these moments the same people always had lizard features and the same people always looked human. They never switched. He also began to observe that those around him who appeared lizard-like in his altered state always seemed to react the same to movies, television programmes, etc. We used to laugh and say “here come the lizards,” he told me.

He believed there was, to use his own phrase, a ‘morphogenetic field’ which transmitted to the DNA of the lizard people and aligned the cell structure to the reptilian genetic blueprint. The more reptilian genes a person carries the easier it is for this communication, or rather control, to take place. And the ones with the cell structure most aligned to the reptilian blueprint are the Elite families that run the world to this day.

It is not without reason that Diana, Princess of Wales, used to call the Windsors the ‘lizards’ and the ‘reptiles’ and said in all seriousness “They’re not human.” This was told to me by a close confidant of Diana for nine years whom I quote at length later in the book."

[quote]Regular Gonzalez wrote:
It is not without reason that Diana, Princess of Wales[/quote]

Is this the Diana?

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
I don’t see why the world could NOT be conspiratorical in nature. Communication between individuals/groups is practically instantaneous and surely intelligent people must look at elections with disgust. Why NOT simply put up dummy candidates who’ll do your bidding in exchange for being on the inside?

Look at how the media kept pushing Obama. That’s a simple example of a conspiracy right there.

No one will ever be able to prove the existence of a ruling group, as anyone who got close could just be ‘suicided’ or have a massive ‘coronary’. And given how crazy the world is, it may be for the best. Pets in a cage have a higher quality of life than wild animals.

That is, of course, a matter of preference.[/quote]

Practically all conspiracy theories I’ve heard are absolute paranoid psychosis on the part it’s proponents.

Having said that I do not however find it logical to dismiss out of hand conspiracy theories. I’ll hear alleged evidence for just about anything which is how I found out that practically all of them are nuts.

On the other hand the very nature of the prevailing mindset that says conspiracies by definition are nuts makes the job of those who would engage in one, even a little one, very easy because people automatically dismiss them. Hence, I will hear alleged evidence.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
I don’t see why the world could NOT be conspiratorical in nature. Communication between individuals/groups is practically instantaneous and surely intelligent people must look at elections with disgust. Why NOT simply put up dummy candidates who’ll do your bidding in exchange for being on the inside?

Look at how the media kept pushing Obama. That’s a simple example of a conspiracy right there.

No one will ever be able to prove the existence of a ruling group, as anyone who got close could just be ‘suicided’ or have a massive ‘coronary’. And given how crazy the world is, it may be for the best. Pets in a cage have a higher quality of life than wild animals.

That is, of course, a matter of preference.

Practically all conspiracy theories I’ve heard are absolute paranoid psychosis on the part it’s proponents.

Having said that I do not however find it logical to dismiss out of hand conspiracy theories. I’ll hear alleged evidence for just about anything which is how I found out that practically all of them are nuts.

On the other hand the very nature of the prevailing mindset that says conspiracies by definition are nuts makes the job of those who would engage in one, even a little one, very easy because people automatically dismiss them. Hence, I will hear alleged evidence.[/quote]

cool, please see above post for the alleged evidence…

[quote]Regular Gonzalez wrote:
Mack wrote:
Regular Gonzalez wrote:
Mack wrote:
In 2003, Stephen Harper and Australian Prime Minister John Howard deliver largely identical speeches urging their nations to join George W. Bush’s Coalition of the Willing to go to war with Iraq.

What exactly is your point?

Harpers speechwriter plagiarized Howards speech. I don’t see how this relates to who is “pulling the strings”.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the world in which you have your being is not what it appears to be. There is so much more to what’s going on than if I had to put a number on it, I’d say 95+% would not be able to comprehend or understand. You must start to ask questions, then find the answers yourself. The truth is making its way out (via the internet) and the one’s in power know that. That is the one thing they cannot control YET!!! There has NEVER been a time in human history where we had access to not only information we never had before but also a means to spread it to one another like never before. Bear in mind as we speak, billions of dollars are being spent on the internet. Make no mistake, NOTHING in this world happens by happenstance. Just keeping this conversation on the superficial (3D physical) level, there is more information/truth than what the average person will be able to comprehend. SO I will not even bother to go further…

And you can poke fun or make your cracks about lizard people and aliens all you want. But believe me, you would not believe on how interconnected and intertwined just about every aspect of our society is, who exactly is involved, how long this has been in the works for and what their plans are. If you think for one moment your world is about going to work, being stressed, struggling, wondering why society is all f’ed up and getting worse, why they don’t seem to have control of the financial system in America, you better wake up.

Cool,

You didn’t answer my question though. How does Harper reading out a heavily plagiarized speech relate to any of this?

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Because it shows how there are hidden hands behind the scenes controlling what you are choosing to experience.

FYI, I am no expert on anything, don’t claim to be either, I’m not one to tell people what to believe and what not to believe. I just think we need to open up our awareness, ask more questions and do our own research on who these people are, what lineage they have and start to back track our history then things will start to make sense…

[quote]Mack wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
I don’t see why the world could NOT be conspiratorical in nature. Communication between individuals/groups is practically instantaneous and surely intelligent people must look at elections with disgust. Why NOT simply put up dummy candidates who’ll do your bidding in exchange for being on the inside?

Look at how the media kept pushing Obama. That’s a simple example of a conspiracy right there.

No one will ever be able to prove the existence of a ruling group, as anyone who got close could just be ‘suicided’ or have a massive ‘coronary’. And given how crazy the world is, it may be for the best. Pets in a cage have a higher quality of life than wild animals.

That is, of course, a matter of preference.

Practically all conspiracy theories I’ve heard are absolute paranoid psychosis on the part it’s proponents.

Having said that I do not however find it logical to dismiss out of hand conspiracy theories. I’ll hear alleged evidence for just about anything which is how I found out that practically all of them are nuts.

On the other hand the very nature of the prevailing mindset that says conspiracies by definition are nuts makes the job of those who would engage in one, even a little one, very easy because people automatically dismiss them. Hence, I will hear alleged evidence.

cool, please see above post for the alleged evidence…
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That first clip you linked to is an hour and 51 minutes. I’m grabbing it and I’ll take a look, but I still have to watch the Alex Jones videos I downloaded on another guys recommendation. The trouble with a lot of these is that I do agree that much of the bad trends are happening. It’s tougher to buy that there’s been a long stream of high level people over a century who all concurred to bring this about as part of an orchestrated plan.

It seems much more likely that the slippery slope once begun just keeps slipping away from private citizens and toward centralized power as it always has. I do see a fascist future for this country. I just don’t know if I buy that every federal official and financial giant from Wilson to the present has been consciously carrying a single torch to that end.

[quote]Mack wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
I don’t see why the world could NOT be conspiratorical in nature. Communication between individuals/groups is practically instantaneous and surely intelligent people must look at elections with disgust. Why NOT simply put up dummy candidates who’ll do your bidding in exchange for being on the inside?

Look at how the media kept pushing Obama. That’s a simple example of a conspiracy right there.

No one will ever be able to prove the existence of a ruling group, as anyone who got close could just be ‘suicided’ or have a massive ‘coronary’. And given how crazy the world is, it may be for the best. Pets in a cage have a higher quality of life than wild animals.

That is, of course, a matter of preference.

Practically all conspiracy theories I’ve heard are absolute paranoid psychosis on the part it’s proponents.

Having said that I do not however find it logical to dismiss out of hand conspiracy theories. I’ll hear alleged evidence for just about anything which is how I found out that practically all of them are nuts.

On the other hand the very nature of the prevailing mindset that says conspiracies by definition are nuts makes the job of those who would engage in one, even a little one, very easy because people automatically dismiss them. Hence, I will hear alleged evidence.

cool, please see above post for the alleged evidence…
[/quote]

That first clip you linked to is an hour and 51 minutes. I’m grabbing it and I’ll take a look, but I still have to watch the Alex Jones videos I downloaded on another guys recommendation. The trouble with a lot of these is that I do agree that much of the bad trends are happening. It’s tougher to buy that there’s been a long stream of high level people over a century who all concurred to bring this about as part of an orchestrated plan.

It seems much more likely that the slippery slope once begun just keeps slipping away from private citizens and toward centralized power as it always has. I do see a fascist future for this country. I just don’t know if I buy that every federal official and financial giant from Wilson to the present has been consciously carrying a single torch to that end.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Mack wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
I don’t see why the world could NOT be conspiratorical in nature. Communication between individuals/groups is practically instantaneous and surely intelligent people must look at elections with disgust. Why NOT simply put up dummy candidates who’ll do your bidding in exchange for being on the inside?

Look at how the media kept pushing Obama. That’s a simple example of a conspiracy right there.

No one will ever be able to prove the existence of a ruling group, as anyone who got close could just be ‘suicided’ or have a massive ‘coronary’. And given how crazy the world is, it may be for the best. Pets in a cage have a higher quality of life than wild animals.

That is, of course, a matter of preference.

Practically all conspiracy theories I’ve heard are absolute paranoid psychosis on the part it’s proponents.

Having said that I do not however find it logical to dismiss out of hand conspiracy theories. I’ll hear alleged evidence for just about anything which is how I found out that practically all of them are nuts.

On the other hand the very nature of the prevailing mindset that says conspiracies by definition are nuts makes the job of those who would engage in one, even a little one, very easy because people automatically dismiss them. Hence, I will hear alleged evidence.

cool, please see above post for the alleged evidence…

That first clip you linked to is an hour and 51 minutes. I’m grabbing it and I’ll take a look, but I still have to watch the Alex Jones videos I downloaded on another guys recommendation. The trouble with a lot of these is that I do agree that much of the bad trends are happening. It’s tougher to buy that there’s been a long stream of high level people over a century who all concurred to bring this about as part of an orchestrated plan.

It seems much more likely that the slippery slope once begun just keeps slipping away from private citizens and toward centralized power as it always has. I do see a fascist future for this country. I just don’t know if I buy that every federal official and financial giant from Wilson to the present has been consciously carrying a single torch to that end.

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Glad you watched. Funny you mentioned the term buy. Think of it in another way, do you buy into the apparent reality as it appears to be? You can’t discount history though, I’m speaking of quotes, documents, video, etc… Just because we are being sold this illusion of freedom doesn’t mean you have to buy into it… Peace.

If the aliens have been in charge ‘for thousands of years’, then that must mean that they could have prevented all of this from happening, especially anyone exposing them. So, I don’t believe in that.

I do believe in a very educated and wealthy elite that holds the common people in great disdain. They therefore control the government by putting up controlled candidates and running sham elections. They are like Plato’s Philosopher Kings, who deceive the populace to create a society on earth that matches the heavenly form (or ideal) of an ideal society. They are faced with what I call ‘singularities’, someone inventing something disruptive to the Old Order, like the internet. They therefore are becoming more authoritarian.