Who You Jivin With That Cosmik Debris

Damn, now I need to look up the Alexander Technique…do you know how little spare time I have? :wink:

No Feldenkrais is different to yoga.

Didn’t go to big pool last night, did the hip yoga vid again, my right hip flexors felt even tighter. Although I did feel something loosen, for just a few seconds. Probably have to do that 8 more times before I feel something different.

I was more asking which helped more.

I have done a feldenkrais course ages ago, but I never felt it sank in and haven’t benefited much from it as a result.

Oh sorry, well the actually both help in different ways. But like with anything it depends on the teacher. My pilates instructor went to a Feldenkrais class and she said it actually kind of hurt her, with this other guy. And some of the videos I’ve seen of other classes seems like they are pushing through. Anyway I think I have/had an exceptional FK teacher so can’t really comment on other classes. With her its like hypnotherapy, you just get in the in warm cushy bubble in her classes. Same thing with yoga, I’ve had great ones and blah ones.

I need to get back into some Pilates (mat work, not machines). It did so much for my hips and lower back in fixing that pelvic tilt we all read so much about.

Does Feldenkrais use the system where you sit in a chair and you get bolstered by pillows until you’re in the most comfortable position imaginable, fall asleep, and upon awakening have all these tight spots and knots and whatnots released? I recall some story of this person who was always in pain in almost all positions. He was rigged up with pillows until he was feeling no pain, stayed in that position for some unmentioned time and was essentially healed of his pains.

I remember feldenkrais was more focused on body awareness through movement. I did it in conjunction with kung fu, and so it was focused on movement on your feet. My main issue was we went over how to walk and stand, but most of my problems are sitting and laying down. I sit at a desk for 10-12 hours a day, and lay in bed for another 8. If the whole method looks at sitting as well it would probably help me more.

With a good instructor, I found yoga great for relieving more of my aches and pains because I am naturally inflexible, and stretching and improving my range of motion helped me out a lot, but I can’t say there is a single posture I can fit myself correctly into. Most yoga instructors I have had can’t believe I am as inflexible as I am so they tend to try and get me to push a bit. I tend to push a lot to start with so I would often end up with pain from over stretching.

Crushed, er no never heard that story, not sure if it is FK. Sounds like a faerie tale to me.

Corrm (just noticed the double r in your name)…I guess your teacher was just focusing on the gait aspect. We mainly lie down and there is some very short standing stuff. What I’ve mainly benefited from the class is when we do a “move”, we are supposed to notice what muscles, sequence, etc we normally use for that move, and then to very slowly experiment how we can use different muscles, positions to make it feel with less effort.

If it disrupts your breathing or even if you have to concentrate too much on your breathing, then you try to find a way so that it doesn’t affect your breathing. And then the big BUT is if you can’t at the moment, to just go with it for now, and take it down a notch more making the movements even smaller. It is all very slow going, and some classes one person feels something more than others, the next class its different.

As for your yoga teachers, have they ever given you props to use for some of the classes? That way you can get into the poses but the props give you a little help & support, so then hopefully next time you can go deeper into without the pain?

Oops forgot to log last night’s workout,
Lots of warming up, goblets, stiff dls’s etc, same usual except YTWL’s instead of face pulls. I’m a bit clumsy, managed to trip over a bench and when carrying over the stepper for hip thrusts, knocked it against the wall and then my head.

supersets - (1st set v v hard)
FS
4x10 - 17.5kg
KB shoulder press
4 x 6 - 12kg

HIp thrusts
4 x 10 - 30kg DB
Er this was not pretty to get the big ol DB onto my hips, got lots of stares, as well as a sore thumb.

Skipped any conditioning, forgot my swimming suit and they don’t do naked stuff in the gym. Think my back was unhappy with me this morning.

And swimming at lunch today. Only 2 swims this week, oh well. Doing yoga tonight.

Spell it how you like…it is actually pronounced kor-vo-na. Ya gotta love the Irish. :slight_smile:

They have had props, but I’ve never used them. I am usually the only guy in a class. One friend and I went to an ashatanga class once but usually I’m kind of the one dancing bear in a room full of lululemon clad soccer mum’s, so they don’t know what to do with me.

Aren’t you supposed to use a bb for hip thrusts? Not successfully visualizing a comfortable way to do that… Shoulder press plus front squats rock!

Ah you should’ve told the instructor to get out of her comfort-soccer-mom zone and work with you. You certainly got out of your comfort zone by going there with all of them. Although I suppose you had “something” to look at.

I have to say even though those pills are making me a bit loopy & clumsy, they take away the worst of the pain. Better than any of those opioid based ones that can lead to all sorts of other problems. And I only have to take one, getting less and less loopy as the days go on. I can actually take deep breaths without anything killing me, but can still feel where the tightness is which is fine so at least I know where to do stretches for still.

Cross train 7 mins to loosen things up
Lots of warm up stuff, no moneys, band push downs, KB 6kg ea rear lunges (instead of bar), goblet squats, front loaded squats, got a ball and rolled my back. Was well warmed for sets

SuperduperSets…
DB bent over Rows
5 x 10 - 9kg ea

DB Dl’s
3 x 10 - 22kg ea
(I can definitely feel now when the right bum decides to switch off any time I lose any sort of concentration on them)

KB Bear circuit
3 x 4 - 8kg ea
double moves
2 x 3 - 8kg ea

Lots of stretching on the ball but think I might’ve over stretched the lower back some how, no pain but still..

Jacuzzi, steam & sauna

For our age group, I think yoga would be the king of pick up places for a guy. And yes, good view even if you aren’t in the market.

If you are a little loopy on the pills, maybe switch up your exercise selection. You do a lot of high coordination stuff…

Good to see you hitting solid workouts regularly.

I’m a bit more clumsy just by walking around, if I keep my concentration while exercising I’m fine, well mostly. I doubled the dose last night, um but it was too much. Woke up thinking it was 10am and it was 12!

So stayed in bed some more reading up on all the side effects of the med & other people’s experience. Most mentioned the loopiness goes away after 2 weeks or so. Many complain of weight gain. I’m not sure exactly how meds make you gain wait, this one is supposed to increase your appetite. Still better than reaching for those codeine pain killers I have been off and on for over 1.5 years, I try not to take them but they are not for such longterm use, from what I understand. I know some meds may slow your metabolism down, I’ll have to read up on that. I do know when I went off the BC’s I was able to lose weight quicker but also to gain weight quicker???

Did some conditioning stuff this afternoon

10 min cross trainer (lowest setting)

3 rounds of…
walking lunges (these are much stabler)
body squats
squat jumps (last set I did pause squat, jump)

pistol push ups on swiss ball (don’t think back likes these)

jump roping, not bad since I have not done these in years, got a bit winded though.

15 min run on treadmill

Weight gain is a weird thing though. My thyroid was right off line (TSH 18.5) I didn’t gain a pound. If it lets you work out you shouldn’t gain weight…at least not the bad kind.

Yeah I’ve been reading up on it, so it got me to thinking about insulin. I found one study on rats, where it did increase insulin resistance, another small sample of women where it increased serum leptin levels, but not necessarily significant enough. Most people have complained about an increase in appetite and sugar cravings within 2 weeks or more. I’m hoping a low carb diet and regular exercise will stop any of that for me, bah gotta start getting more protein in too.

Did yoga again last night, lit some candles and incense. The flow of the sequence is getting easier but hips remain tight! Especially right hip, just won’t back down.

Warm up

Superset
FS
3 x 10 - 20kg (why is the 1st set so hard with every thing)

KB shoulder press bell behind
5 x 6 - 12kg (lost the hip stabilsation now & then)

Superset 2
GM
3 x 15 - 25kg

Hip thrusts
3 x 10 - 25kg fucking barbell shit

Conditioning
2 x 10 KB swings - 16kg
2 x 10 KB deadlift - 16kg
2 x 10 jump lunges (very inelegent)
oops can’t correct my spelling food is ready.

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3 x 10 - 20kg (why is the 1st set so hard with every thing)
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Rust. At least I think that’s my problem. Or the equivalent with joints and synovial fluid. I guess I should consume more fish oil.


Gotta be careful with those “yoga” classes . . .

Went swimming in big pool with diving club, oof I’m slow, arms were fairly tired from the 5 sets the other night too.

So far no weird hunger pangs or sugar cravings. Going to take it easy tonight and do more slow-long stretching, everything just feels tight, and TOM coming soon.

Going to Berlin, one of my favourite EU cities, for work stuff, along with some fun stuff. Going to be very quick, probably too quick for the long flight. Oh well better than not, will be freezing too. But maybe the Xmas markets will get me in the spirit.

This is too funny, although might use the idea to get at my hamstrings

My garage floor would tear that paper to shreds. Still, it’s much cheaper than buying the similar devices that they sell in fitness shops. You can always get some furniture sliders, too.

Have fun in Berlin.