[quote]LoRez wrote:
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Something about that chase scene involving an invisible Aston Martin sliding around on the ice kind of turned me off to the Brosnan Bonds. That, and the melting giant ice castle owned by the billionaire media mogul.
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Haha, that kinda was a bit “Thomas Crowne Affair” like but I still thought Brosnan was good.
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
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Something about that chase scene involving an invisible Aston Martin sliding around on the ice kind of turned me off to the Brosnan Bonds. That, and the melting giant ice castle owned by the billionaire media mogul.
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Haha, that kinda was a bit “Thomas Crowne Affair” like but I still thought Brosnan was good. [/quote]
That, however, was a great movie.
clears throat to guys standing in front of the elevator
“What, you own the building or something?”
“He DOES own the building”
grin
Haha, me too. And Tailor of Panama and The Matador.
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Moore and Connery.
Saving the world and shagging hotties the next minute has to be delivered with juuust the right kind of goofiness. And they pulled it off.
Dalton and Brosnan were trying way too hard. Lazenby isn’t even in the race.
I haven’t seen a Craig yet (assumed they were crap; the last Brosnan was garbage).
Seems I will have to check out Craig in Casino Royale/Q. Solace.
But I suspect he has nothing on Moore and Connery.
The Man With the Golden Gun is my favorite Bond, btw
Pop-Culturally, Bond’s time is up.
Other archtypes, quasi-mythological superheroes and stern agents of ideology demand his screen space.
He’ll be missed by few.[/quote]
Missed by few? Are you on crack? Skyfall pushed a billion at the box office. His time is up? Never. No matter how many they release they will still draw the audience. I’m 26 and i have seen every bond film because my dad loved them. The memorabilia, the mystique, the class and the constant re-invention mean bond will never die!
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
[quote]London Runner wrote:
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hairy Connery.[/quote]
Thats a name for a drink.[/quote]
Prove it.[/quote]
Na, I think it should be. [/quote]
If I were to serve a “hairy Connery”, I would make it like this:
In a bar tin with ice
two measures Gordon’s vodka
one measure scotch (“any single malt will do”)
one measure peach schnapps
a half measure Kina Lillet
Shaken, not stirred (duh! LOL)
Strain into a martini glass
Garnish with lemon peel
Proceed to hit on hawt chicks with a thick Scottish brogue!
Oh and Connery FTMFW!
Gotta give Craig his props, though. I like him, I really do. But he’s still just “the new Bond” in my mind. LOL
George Lazenby
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
If I were to serve a “hairy Connery”, I would make it like this:
In a bar tin with ice
two measures Gordon’s vodka
one measure scotch (“any single malt will do”)
one measure peach schnapps
a half measure Kina Lillet
Shaken, not stirred (duh! LOL)
Strain into a martini glass
Garnish with lemon peel
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I’ve never mixed scotch with gin. Going to have to try that.
Mostly, I’m not sure the Lillet would work with the peach.
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
Judi Dench is going blind so they had to cut her out. I actually did like how they introduced and developed her replacement. The only thing I really didn’t like was the hacking scenes, they just made it too unrealistic, although Q was a good character[/quote]
Again I agree. She was great in that role.[/quote]
did you like the 2nd Craig Bond movie? I thought it was lacking compared to the 1st and 3rd[/quote]
Which one was the first? I thought it was Casino Royale, then Quantum of Solace. Did not see Quantum.
Ashton Krutcher? Not just no, but HELL NO!
[quote]jldume wrote:
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
Sean Fucking Connery[/quote]
My favorite. Runner up is Timothy Dalton.
With that being said, I think Daniel Craig is an amazing actor, and his movies were great, but they dint feel like I was watching James Bond movies. I don’t know, maybe the absence of the gadgets or his attitude were a tad bit off. Like Skyfall, it just felt like I was watching an awesome action movie.
SPOILER ALERT FOR SKYFALL
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The double twist ending was brilliant but something of a brain fuck. Casino Royale was the first Bond movie to exist outside of the rest of the series: all the other iterations of Bond were assumed to be the same guy with the same career. Skyfall’s plot changes Casino Royale from a Bond reboot to a prequel story to the Connery movies by placing it before Dr. No.
The introduction of a male M and Miss Moneypenny in the traditional office setting suggests that Dench’s M was Bernard Lee’s predecessor and Ralph Fiennes is playing a younger version of Lee’s M.
Likewise, Naomie Harris is for all intents and purposes, the first Moneypenny. If Casino Royale is Bond’s origin story, Skyfall shows the genesis of the male M, Moneypenny and Q (the scene where Bond meets his new Quartermaster is played with tongues firmly wedged against cheeks. He isn’t the first Q : it’s hinted that ‘new Q’ replaced somebody, but that doesn’t mean he succeeded ‘previous’ Q’s Llewellyn and Cleese).
Remember this is the first appearance of Q (and Moneypenny) in a Dan Craig Bond.
Ignore the anachronisms of technology and appearance: they were never an issue in Bond films. Thanks to Skyfall, Dan Craig’s Bond now ostensibly prefigures Connery’s wearing of the tux and explains the death of Dench’s M.
/SKYFALL SPOILERS.
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Pop-Culturally, Bond’s time is up.
Other archtypes, quasi-mythological superheroes and stern agents of ideology demand his screen space.
He’ll be missed by few.[/quote]
I disagree. There’s plenty of room for a non-superhero character. I couldn’t handle all superheroes all the time. That would get boring. I liked Iron Man and Tony Stark has his own bad assness about him, but he can’t replace Bond. The Bond movies don’t get churned out that frequently so there is always time to cleanse the palate between Bond movies.
[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
Judi Dench is going blind so they had to cut her out. I actually did like how they introduced and developed her replacement. The only thing I really didn’t like was the hacking scenes, they just made it too unrealistic, although Q was a good character[/quote]
Again I agree. She was great in that role.[/quote]
did you like the 2nd Craig Bond movie? I thought it was lacking compared to the 1st and 3rd[/quote]
Which one was the first? I thought it was Casino Royale, then Quantum of Solace. Did not see Quantum.[/quote]
QOS was the weakest of the three. To be fair, it had to contend with the writer’s strike and MGM nearly went bust around that time (they nearly had to release Daniel Craig from his contract and there was a huge question mark over whether they’d ever make another Bond movie).
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]jldume wrote:
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
Sean Fucking Connery[/quote]
My favorite. Runner up is Timothy Dalton.
With that being said, I think Daniel Craig is an amazing actor, and his movies were great, but they dint feel like I was watching James Bond movies. I don’t know, maybe the absence of the gadgets or his attitude were a tad bit off. Like Skyfall, it just felt like I was watching an awesome action movie.
SPOILER ALERT FOR SKYFALL
[/quote]
The double twist ending was brilliant but something of a brain fuck. Casino Royale was the first Bond movie to exist outside of the rest of the series: all the other iterations of Bond were assumed to be the same guy with the same career. Skyfall’s plot changes Casino Royale from a Bond reboot to a prequel story to the Connery movies by placing it before Dr. No.
The introduction of a male M and Miss Moneypenny in the traditional office setting suggests that Dench’s M was Bernard Lee’s predecessor and Ralph Fiennes is playing a younger version of Lee’s M.
Likewise, Naomie Harris is for all intents and purposes, the first Moneypenny. If Casino Royale is Bond’s origin story, Skyfall shows the genesis of the male M, Moneypenny and Q (the scene where Bond meets his new Quartermaster is played with tongues firmly wedged against cheeks. He isn’t the first Q : it’s hinted that ‘new Q’ replaced somebody, but that doesn’t mean he succeeded ‘previous’ Q’s Llewellyn and Cleese).
Remember this is the first appearance of Q (and Moneypenny) in a Dan Craig Bond.
Ignore the anachronisms of technology and appearance: they were never an issue in Bond films. Thanks to Skyfall, Dan Craig’s Bond now ostensibly prefigures Connery’s wearing of the tux and explains the death of Dench’s M.
/SKYFALL SPOILERS.
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Ok, this was awesome analysis, but I’m still a touch confused. Where does Skyfall, or, more importantly, the next movie not out yet, fit in the timeline? Is the next movie before or after Dr. No, or does it just kind of slide in there ambiguously?
I think Connery portrayed Bond the best. Moore and Craig have been in some great Bond films but Connery just carried himself differently. Moore didn’t have the arrogance of Connery and Craig doesn’t have the charm.
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]jldume wrote:
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
Sean Fucking Connery[/quote]
My favorite. Runner up is Timothy Dalton.
With that being said, I think Daniel Craig is an amazing actor, and his movies were great, but they dint feel like I was watching James Bond movies. I don’t know, maybe the absence of the gadgets or his attitude were a tad bit off. Like Skyfall, it just felt like I was watching an awesome action movie.
SPOILER ALERT FOR SKYFALL
[/quote]
The double twist ending was brilliant but something of a brain fuck. Casino Royale was the first Bond movie to exist outside of the rest of the series: all the other iterations of Bond were assumed to be the same guy with the same career. Skyfall’s plot changes Casino Royale from a Bond reboot to a prequel story to the Connery movies by placing it before Dr. No.
The introduction of a male M and Miss Moneypenny in the traditional office setting suggests that Dench’s M was Bernard Lee’s predecessor and Ralph Fiennes is playing a younger version of Lee’s M.
Likewise, Naomie Harris is for all intents and purposes, the first Moneypenny. If Casino Royale is Bond’s origin story, Skyfall shows the genesis of the male M, Moneypenny and Q (the scene where Bond meets his new Quartermaster is played with tongues firmly wedged against cheeks. He isn’t the first Q : it’s hinted that ‘new Q’ replaced somebody, but that doesn’t mean he succeeded ‘previous’ Q’s Llewellyn and Cleese).
Remember this is the first appearance of Q (and Moneypenny) in a Dan Craig Bond.
Ignore the anachronisms of technology and appearance: they were never an issue in Bond films. Thanks to Skyfall, Dan Craig’s Bond now ostensibly prefigures Connery’s wearing of the tux and explains the death of Dench’s M.
/SKYFALL SPOILERS.
[/quote]
Ok, this was awesome analysis, but I’m still a touch confused. Where does Skyfall, or, more importantly, the next movie not out yet, fit in the timeline? Is the next movie before or after Dr. No, or does it just kind of slide in there ambiguously?
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Skyfall’s final reveal places every current and future Dan Craig Bond before Dr. No. (he’s only contracted to make one more, I believe).
I initially thought of Casino Royale and Quantum preceding Dr.No, with Skyfall coming after Die Another Day - in other words, Craig’s Bond has lived through every mission in between and that’s why he comes into Skyfall as a physical wreck.
That would mean Casino/Quantum and Skyfall/next movie are bookends to the whole Bond canon and Craig’s Bond is the same guy in every movie from Connery to Brosnan.
Placing Skyfall like that doesn’t work, though: it has to be set before Dr. No as well because of
the return to the traditional pre-mission briefing of Bond in a room with a male M and Moneypenny going from field agent to office job. Bond movies don’t adhere to a strict timeline (the passing of time is a non-issue, really), so it’s just Sam Mende’s way of connecting Dan Craig’s Bond to the rest of the Bond movies while giving the sense of a rough chronology and explaining why certain characters were absent from CR and QOS.
Skyfall is so self-referential that there doesn’t need to be anymore detail: Mendes planted the seed of an idea, given M and Moneypenny a back story, and the Craig movies a place among the other Bonds. The next movie can just carry on as a self-contained mission with certain characters being addressed by their codenames as they have been in the past.
/SPOILERS
God damn, Roybot, you are a movie genius. That seems right on.
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
Sean Fucking Connery[/quote]
I totally agree.
[quote]London Runner wrote:
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Cool find, London Runner. I have never seen that!
[quote]Aggv wrote:
The problem with Brosnan was that his movies were no good.
Connery was good, but those movies are just too old; while classics, not the best.
Roger Moore is probably the best. Daniel Craig is sweet, but he’s more jason bourne in a tux. [/quote]
“That last hand nearly killed me.”
Fixing his cuffs as he jumps onto that train car while the back end rips out behind him?
Craig’s Bond’s charisma is orders of magnitude beyond Jason Bourne.