[quote]The Ronin wrote:
tom63 wrote:
As for a bar, I don’t carry if I have more than one or plan to have more than one beer.
Nor do I. Solid advice.
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In Missouri you cannot carry into a straight up bar, if the place makes 51% of their money on food its ok, however it’s a felony to be caught in public with any alcohol and a firearm otherwise I’d be a one and done also.
i live in canada and dont carry guns, or even own any haha i dont understand the point of it ? besides the fact that its legal why do almost everyone living in america carry guns ?
[quote]corey_31 wrote:
i live in canada and dont carry guns, or even own any haha i dont understand the point of it ? besides the fact that its legal why do almost everyone living in america carry guns ?[/quote]
That’s a rash generalization or an extreme example of hyperbole at best. MOST people do not.
I do however, a Springfield XD .40 with hollow points. I’m also an infantry soldier who has deployed to a combat zone where we ran combat missions for 8-10 days at a time. So I think I’m adequately trained and I’d like to think that most people who go to the trouble of getting a permit are as well. Personally, I got my permit a year before I even knew I was deploying, but since I’ve been home I carry it a lot more. It’s just too weird going from constantly having weapons locked and loaded and feeling safe to nothing.
I find it hilarious that people think guns are the problem. The criminals still have guns. And if I want to do violence to someone, I don’t need a gun. I can beat someone an object, choke them, stab them, posion them, christ even throw hot coffee at them.
As far as kids go, my father is a police SGT and I’ve been exposed to guns my whole life. He always made sure I knew how to handle firearms, i.e. always assuming a gun is loaded and clearing it when I receive it. Hell I had to read the manual on my first bb gun and take a test he made up before I was allowed to use it. Worked just fine for me. Just my two cents.
yea it was a generalization i agree haha i know not all americans carry guns, i just dont understand why its such a black and white difference when it comes to guns in Canada and the United states
The historian in me would say that it has a lot to do with our early history. Really I would argue that from the 1600s until the West was settled in the late 1880s that firearms played a vital role in America. I have to admit I’ve never take a close look at Canadian history though so I’m not sure where the division is.
thats interesting, yea i definately dont think theres anything wrong with it im just interested in why its legal to carry a gun around in the united states, and if someone was walking around the streets in Canada with a gun we’d be tackled by police hah
[quote]lloydk wrote:
I’d rather not need to carry a weapon with me. In fact, I’d rather not have a weapon, and have to deal with a gun wielding maniac with my bare hands. It’s just culture. It’s American to want guns and all that, and I love America for it.
If guns where legal here in the UK, I’d probably have the lot because I’m a great marksman, and I enjoy shooting. The problem with that though, is that legalised guns would make gun circulation here out of control, and it’s something that we do have a fairly large amount of control over.[/quote]
It’s not culture, it’s common sense. Why the hell would you want to deal with a “gun wielding maniac” with your bare hands? Thats the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard!
When guns were banned in the UK thats when “gun crime” went through the roof. Same thing happened in Australia.
Gun circulation in the UK is not under control. Do your homework. Just because you don’t read about it in the media doesn’t mean it’s not a problem.
There are an estimated 4 million illegal guns in circulation in the UK. When handguns were outlawed only 3000 were handed in (they were expecting about 100,000). Where do you think the other 97,000 handguns are?
What about the 300 guns intercepted by customs every year (2005, it’s alot more now. Are they the only ones entering the country? Customs only intercepts about 20% of all contreban, do the maths.
Glad you have things under control, keep up the good work. And thanks for enlightening us all.
P.S. good luck with the empty hand tactics. Trust me, it wont end well.
[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
The Ronin wrote:
In bars and to Walmart I keep mine concealed. Most other places I open carry.
I thought it was illigal to carry a firearm into an establishment that provides alcohol for consumption on it’s premisis.[/quote]
that was my understanding as well. and the ones I go to pat you down anyways
[quote]pushharder wrote:
dday wrote:
…Once my son is old enough to understand he will know what guns are, what they can do and why he shouldn’t play with them.
I believe that a lot of accidents at home could be avoided if parents showed kids why they shouldn’t play with them as apposed to just telling them they shouldn’t play with them.
If someone told me not to mess with something when I was a kid but never told me why I liked to figure it out on my own. Gotta be responsible with guns and kids.
Exactly.
When my two kids were somewhere in the 5 - 7 years old range I let them touch and handle an unloaded handgun and rifle. I let them point, heft, and feel it. I wanted them to satisfy their curiosity with me there so they would not feel compelled to do so when I wasn’t around.
I also took them out shooting and showed them the destructive power and the sound of the weapon upon firing.
I then explicitly told them to never touch the weapon unless dad was there supervising. Never had ANY problems whatsoever with this approach. NONE.
Bottom line is to not teach fear of the weapon but rather to have respect and discipline for it.[/quote]
same way my father taught me and his taught him,
good job btw