I can’t speak to inferiority or superiority of any of any race but there are several things I can point out though.
Black is just a skin color. People residing in Africa are the most genetically diverse. High degree of genomic variability from the north to the south and the east to the west.
There are some things for which there is strong evidence for. For instance if we talk about fast twitch muscle fiber percentages then it would be correct to say people from western Africa have a superior ratio making them better at activities requiring explosiveness. This shouldn’t be news to anyone.
IQ has been measured extensively and there is tremendous evidence supporting IQ of East Asian > European > Black. Of course there are exceptions. Ashkenazi Jewish peoples have a much higher IQ than their gentile neighbors generally and as such I think they actually supplant East Asians.
Obviously there is Charles Murray’s 1992 the Bell Curve. Love it or hate it it sheds light on a difficult topic.
Another study in 1994 used Raven Matrices to study IQ of South African University students comparing white students to black students. White students scored higher.
Another famous study was the Minnesota transracial adoption study. Comparing IQs of adopted children. In other words IQ of a child with two biological black parents adopted by white parents.
The Minnesota study is a bit dated.
Disclaimer my genetic roots are from an African country with an average IQ listed at 83.
Also I believe work ethic can more then compensate for any discrepancies in IQ between different groups of people.
What is truly tragic though is the social and political climate today that impedes honest academic inquiry.
I’ve seen many studies and some of the largest ones would indicate that genetics accounts for roughly 80% of IQ. But simple math and with an average IQ being 100 it’s very easy to figure out that 20% is the difference between genius and average. It’s also the difference between average and handicapped
The same studies that show such a strong genetic correlation would put the difference of 80% again average IQ was 100 do that 20% iis more then enough To explain different IQs of different ethnic groups. Now the difference between individuals in the extremely high IQ range. I don’t see any point in arguing about them. your parents matter more than anything else. Prodigies are born
I can’t tell if we are in disagreement. I don’t think we are.
I think there is solid evidence for notable differences in IQ based on race. I think it is significantly genetic as the data suggest. I also don’t think it is such a big deal.
I haven’t seen strong evidence about the link between IQ and genetics or the lack thereof (or the link between IQ and race or the lack thereof). But lacking that evidence, I am open to said links either existing or not existing.
At this point, unless someone brings said evidence, I’d say anyone pushing hard for one side or the other of that debate isn’t really interested in the truth.
Once they were extremely low. I mean really low, but are now I believe 101 on average. Proving that if somebody’s not eating well, isn’t educated and drinks too much they are significantly damaged
You’re painting one heck of a picture here that has nothing to do with reality. A bunch of poor angry white people, and not a single smart and hard working black person to be found in an entire region.
That’s as pessimistic and prejudiced of an outlook as I’ve seen in a long time. You said upthread that you grew up around a bunch of intelligent and enlightened people. What enlightened them? A bunch of burning crosses?
They don’t actually know the subject well enough but if 20% is the part of IQ that is not genetically correlated. that’s the difference between low 80s and 100. And a perfect explanation of what happened in Ireland
There is a correlation it’s not just pulling it out of their butts. but exactly how that works they don’t know. I don’t know, but no matter how you look at it when you take the most extreme genetic correlation. You end up realizing that a significant percentage of it is not genetic. But if you took the world Record holder in the 100 m and all he ever did was play video games and eat Twinkies. he wouldn’t have been the fastest runner in his high school. Nothing is more genetic than sprinting
There is little to no evidence 80% of IQ is genetic. The majority of evidence supports something much closer to 50/50 iirc. Environmental factors have an enormous impact on one’s IQ not to mention IQ tests are bias towards individuals in the west.
No because A world record holding sprinter. If he behaves normally just doesn’t train hard. If he doesn’t hurt himself. he’ll still be one of the fastest of people. And no matter how hard somebody with a lack of fast twitch muscles trains. They will never make it as a stringer. Genetics matters a lot. But it mostly matters at the very low end and the very high-end. I think ( but can’t prove) the dramatic change of the Irish IQ shows us that even if a group average is in the high 80s, such as the Irish were once. Under better conditions they might rise to an average of 101. just as the Irish have. If every racial and cultural group had the same diet and education as the Irish do now. I think we wouldn’t see such extreme differences in I Q between different races as we do today. But likely there would still be differences.
Well from what I’ve read some number around 80% is true. The belief that everything about human physiology is genetic except intelligence. That is wishful thinking. Why would the way your mind works be different than your ability to run fast? Reaction time is genetic and that is a mental process. Why are other mental processes immune from genetics. Why is it that high IQ parents usually produce higher IQ children? Don’t you believe any of that
So now we’re back to lifestyle doesn’t matter? Lot of coaches and trainers would probably be very surprised to hear a genetically gifted untrained guy is always gonna be faster than their people.
On top of it not holding up in reality.
So it’s 80% genetic, but if we match the non genetic aspect the difference shrinks? That’s a pretty powerful 20%
Any chance you can produce a single thing you’ve read that backs that up?