Various swatiskas
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
Same reason that Cain Velasquez can parade around on national TV with a 20" long “BROWN PRIDE” tattoo on his chest and no one says a damn word, but if any top white athlete ever showed up to game day with a giant “white pride” tattoo he’d instantly be labeled a racist and his career would be over. We’re always gonna be wrong.
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Because “Brown Pride” does not refer to a race but a mixture of races. Also, it is in reaction to oppression and prejudice whereas White Pride is an expression linked to oppression. Of course, if someone had an Irish, Italian, Polish, etc., pride tattoo no one would care, now would they? Maybe someday we’ll see someone sporting one of those tattoos. [/quote]
We so we go from thumbs up for a slogan referring to latinos in general being ok to whites needing to specify which particular lineage they are proud of?[/quote]
Brown Pride does not refer to Latinos in general so your conclusion is wrong. [/quote]
I wouldn’t have an issue with it if it did.
Audio’s beef is with the Klan and the other Hate groups who adopted “White Pride” as a slogan for hate. Is it fair no but take that up with the people marching waving Nazi Flags and yelling " White Pride"
Not every issue is the fault of the Media.[/quote]
Yeah, the Nazi/KKK crowd is an embarrasment if we are going to view individuals as groups based on skin color. They’re like the retarded cousin in the closet. You feel sorry for them but don’t want to be associated. And 99% of us aren’t.
Unfortunately instead of using intelligent thought, people default to these guys when they hear white pride instead of realizing, “Hey, if it makes sense for virtually all other races in the world to derive some kind of pride from their cultural history, it probably makes sense for whites too.”
Nope, that wouldn’t support the sad little woe is me world view that plagues so many minorities. Focus on the negative people!! Positive thinking is unfamiliar and scawwy!! Better to be sad and familiar.[/quote]
Two problems with your post:
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What other races are taking pride in their cultural history?
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What is cultural history when it comes to race anyway?
I think you are confusing race and culture.
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Thomasm122 wrote:
I bet there are Mexican on White murders, White on Indian, Samoan on African American, etc, etc, etc.
Why can’t you just say, “Some people do fucked up shit.” That’s all it is. Fucked up people doing fucked up things. Doesn’t matter if it’s white, black, blue or purple. Whatever motivation there is is fucking stupid. Is there going to be a trilogy of threads per “race on race” instance of violence?
There’s absolutely nothing to talk about beyond the above- Generally, the predominant instances of violence consist of little more than fucked up people doing fucked up shit. [/quote]
Yep. But once this gets started it snowballs because people don’t want to feel left out.
It’ll die down soon…then start over again in a couple weeks…like a menstrual cycle.[/quote]
Ahhh
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
Same reason that Cain Velasquez can parade around on national TV with a 20" long “BROWN PRIDE” tattoo on his chest and no one says a damn word, but if any top white athlete ever showed up to game day with a giant “white pride” tattoo he’d instantly be labeled a racist and his career would be over. We’re always gonna be wrong.
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Because “Brown Pride” does not refer to a race but a mixture of races. Also, it is in reaction to oppression and prejudice whereas White Pride is an expression linked to oppression. Of course, if someone had an Irish, Italian, Polish, etc., pride tattoo no one would care, now would they? Maybe someday we’ll see someone sporting one of those tattoos. [/quote]
We so we go from thumbs up for a slogan referring to latinos in general being ok to whites needing to specify which particular lineage they are proud of?[/quote]
Brown Pride does not refer to Latinos in general so your conclusion is wrong. [/quote]
I wouldn’t have an issue with it if it did.
Audio’s beef is with the Klan and the other Hate groups who adopted “White Pride” as a slogan for hate. Is it fair no but take that up with the people marching waving Nazi Flags and yelling " White Pride"
Not every issue is the fault of the Media.[/quote]
Yeah, the Nazi/KKK crowd is an embarrasment if we are going to view individuals as groups based on skin color. They’re like the retarded cousin in the closet. You feel sorry for them but don’t want to be associated. And 99% of us aren’t.
Unfortunately instead of using intelligent thought, people default to these guys when they hear white pride instead of realizing, “Hey, if it makes sense for virtually all other races in the world to derive some kind of pride from their cultural history, it probably makes sense for whites too.”
Nope, that wouldn’t support the sad little woe is me world view that plagues so many minorities. Focus on the negative people!! Positive thinking is unfamiliar and scawwy!! Better to be sad and familiar.[/quote]
Two problems with your post:
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What other races are taking pride in their cultural history?
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What is cultural history when it comes to race anyway?
I think you are confusing race and culture. [/quote]
Two things you should do regarding your post:
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Don’t play dumb. If “african” is a culture so is “white”.
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Repost for the brown pride team
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
Same reason that Cain Velasquez can parade around on national TV with a 20" long “BROWN PRIDE” tattoo on his chest and no one says a damn word, but if any top white athlete ever showed up to game day with a giant “white pride” tattoo he’d instantly be labeled a racist and his career would be over. We’re always gonna be wrong.
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Is it that hard to realize that the connotations of certain words are different than the connotations of other certain words?
I’d get into a whole discussion about how black power was a phrase born of black empowerment in the face of overwhelming racism, and white power was example #1 of an otherwise harmless phrase made evil - but I somehow doubt you’re going to understand it.
Think of it like the swastika. That symbol has been around for hundreds and hundreds of years, but Hitler made it evil. Once it became evil, it could never go backwards.
So in short, get over it.
EDIT- didn’t realize the swastika was already mentioned, but my point stands.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Yeah, the Nazi/KKK crowd is an embarrasment if we are going to view individuals as groups based on skin color. They’re like the retarded cousin in the closet. You feel sorry for them but don’t want to be associated. And 99% of us aren’t.
Unfortunately instead of using intelligent thought, people default to these guys when they hear white pride instead of realizing, “Hey, if it makes sense for virtually all other races in the world to derive some kind of pride from their cultural history, it probably makes sense for whites too.”
Nope, that wouldn’t support the sad little woe is me world view that plagues so many minorities. Focus on the negative people!! Positive thinking is unfamiliar and scawwy!! Better to be sad and familiar.[/quote]
But why would I want to focus on “White pride” in the first place?
I’m Irish, but I’m also Italian, and until about 50 years ago nobody, and I mean nobody, thought we qualified as “white.”
So what the fuck do I care about “white power” and “white pride?” They don’t consider me white anyway.
I don’t want to be associated with people who absolutely hate me because I’m part Italian and my forebears on all sides were Catholic.
You’re from Texas. Yea, the KKK is YOUR retarded cousin in the closet.
NOT MINE.
Thanks.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
For the record, my actual opinion is that pride in a racial/ethnic/skin color group is hilarious. So what, you were born. Good job being a sperm.
You are proud of things you do, create, organization membership you earned your way in to et cetera. The person you are based on the things you have done and do that make you you, not whose jizz hit whose egg. If that is a source of pride for you, get a fucking hobby or do something worthwhile. I mean that’s like bottom barrel shit.
I want to play the conjecture game too though, in light of white pride being wrong and brown pride being perfectly ok. If you can’t see sarcasm peppered through out, fuck your retarded brain:
Simply put, white people are the most awesome. Just like Rock said. In the world at large, we are definitely a minority. You know, whites vs. other. Doesn’t matter. Through out history, our various cultures have stayed at the forefront of technological, scientific, cultural and military advances.
A boat full of like a few hundred white people stopped on the S. American continent one day and took over the whole fucking thing. N. America too. Hell, at first contact the indigenous people thought whites were God! First impressions say a lot, you know? Anyways, the gods took goods, gold, people. Foreign, unexplored territory, severely outnumbered, didn’t fucking matter. you don’t fuck with God.
Oh yeah Africa. Can’t forget about them. They were easy though, give them some alchohol and they trade their own people. Put the Colt 45 and Mad Dog down ya’ll, we’re using it as a cultural chain, kinda like aids, to keep you down. We just discussed ramping up advertising for alcohol at the lates Supreme Rulers of the Universe Secret Club Meeting, Whites Only. We are disguising our propaganda around the upcoming 4th of July holiday though, you know when everybody drinks, so it’s not so obvious we are just fucking with the brown crowd.
Asia was a little tough obviously but they were also fairly advanced so trade made more sense. Why beat up a buddy, you know? I mean there were a few exceptions but those dudes are pretty fucking tough, really strong willed.
Anyways, where ever God appeared, he not only took what he wanted, people submitted to his culture and still do. Why? Because it’s better than a mud hut and bugs for lunch. Of course you’d like a nice, engineered home, beef, beer, showers… better is just better you know? You’re welcome.
I mean it’s pretty obvious that if any group deserves collective pride it’s whites errr… God.
Just joking. We are all a random union of a sperm and an egg. It’s 2012 and what happened 400 years ago is important to learn but has absolutely no bearing on where you go and what you do today at all. Todays actions by todays people affect us in the here and now.
Lets not be retards.
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Though a joke, you might want to study history a bit more instead of just regurgitating what you read in elementtary school.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Yeah, the Nazi/KKK crowd is an embarrasment if we are going to view individuals as groups based on skin color. They’re like the retarded cousin in the closet. You feel sorry for them but don’t want to be associated. And 99% of us aren’t.
Unfortunately instead of using intelligent thought, people default to these guys when they hear white pride instead of realizing, “Hey, if it makes sense for virtually all other races in the world to derive some kind of pride from their cultural history, it probably makes sense for whites too.”
Nope, that wouldn’t support the sad little woe is me world view that plagues so many minorities. Focus on the negative people!! Positive thinking is unfamiliar and scawwy!! Better to be sad and familiar.[/quote]
But why would I want to focus on “White pride” in the first place?
I’m Irish, but I’m also Italian, and until about 50 years ago nobody, and I mean nobody, thought we qualified as “white.”
So what the fuck do I care about “white power” and “white pride?” They don’t consider me white anyway.
I don’t want to be associated with people who absolutely hate me because I’m part Italian and my forebears on all sides were Catholic.
You’re from Texas. Yea, the KKK is YOUR retarded cousin in the closet.
NOT MINE.
Thanks.
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Ok then smart guy, white supremacists.
[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
For the record, my actual opinion is that pride in a racial/ethnic/skin color group is hilarious. So what, you were born. Good job being a sperm.
You are proud of things you do, create, organization membership you earned your way in to et cetera. The person you are based on the things you have done and do that make you you, not whose jizz hit whose egg. If that is a source of pride for you, get a fucking hobby or do something worthwhile. I mean that’s like bottom barrel shit.
I want to play the conjecture game too though, in light of white pride being wrong and brown pride being perfectly ok. If you can’t see sarcasm peppered through out, fuck your retarded brain:
Simply put, white people are the most awesome. Just like Rock said. In the world at large, we are definitely a minority. You know, whites vs. other. Doesn’t matter. Through out history, our various cultures have stayed at the forefront of technological, scientific, cultural and military advances.
A boat full of like a few hundred white people stopped on the S. American continent one day and took over the whole fucking thing. N. America too. Hell, at first contact the indigenous people thought whites were God! First impressions say a lot, you know? Anyways, the gods took goods, gold, people. Foreign, unexplored territory, severely outnumbered, didn’t fucking matter. you don’t fuck with God.
Oh yeah Africa. Can’t forget about them. They were easy though, give them some alchohol and they trade their own people. Put the Colt 45 and Mad Dog down ya’ll, we’re using it as a cultural chain, kinda like aids, to keep you down. We just discussed ramping up advertising for alcohol at the lates Supreme Rulers of the Universe Secret Club Meeting, Whites Only. We are disguising our propaganda around the upcoming 4th of July holiday though, you know when everybody drinks, so it’s not so obvious we are just fucking with the brown crowd.
Asia was a little tough obviously but they were also fairly advanced so trade made more sense. Why beat up a buddy, you know? I mean there were a few exceptions but those dudes are pretty fucking tough, really strong willed.
Anyways, where ever God appeared, he not only took what he wanted, people submitted to his culture and still do. Why? Because it’s better than a mud hut and bugs for lunch. Of course you’d like a nice, engineered home, beef, beer, showers… better is just better you know? You’re welcome.
I mean it’s pretty obvious that if any group deserves collective pride it’s whites errr… God.
Just joking. We are all a random union of a sperm and an egg. It’s 2012 and what happened 400 years ago is important to learn but has absolutely no bearing on where you go and what you do today at all. Todays actions by todays people affect us in the here and now.
Lets not be retards.
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Though a joke, you might want to study history a bit more instead of just regurgitating what you read in elementtary school.[/quote]
Oh ya secret history where Europeans didn’t do any of that.
Feel free to make a sarcastic post what ever you deem historically accurate if it makes you feel good.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
Same reason that Cain Velasquez can parade around on national TV with a 20" long “BROWN PRIDE” tattoo on his chest and no one says a damn word, but if any top white athlete ever showed up to game day with a giant “white pride” tattoo he’d instantly be labeled a racist and his career would be over. We’re always gonna be wrong.
[/quote]
Because “Brown Pride” does not refer to a race but a mixture of races. Also, it is in reaction to oppression and prejudice whereas White Pride is an expression linked to oppression. Of course, if someone had an Irish, Italian, Polish, etc., pride tattoo no one would care, now would they? Maybe someday we’ll see someone sporting one of those tattoos. [/quote]
We so we go from thumbs up for a slogan referring to latinos in general being ok to whites needing to specify which particular lineage they are proud of?[/quote]
Brown Pride does not refer to Latinos in general so your conclusion is wrong. [/quote]
I wouldn’t have an issue with it if it did.
Audio’s beef is with the Klan and the other Hate groups who adopted “White Pride” as a slogan for hate. Is it fair no but take that up with the people marching waving Nazi Flags and yelling " White Pride"
Not every issue is the fault of the Media.[/quote]
Yeah, the Nazi/KKK crowd is an embarrasment if we are going to view individuals as groups based on skin color. They’re like the retarded cousin in the closet. You feel sorry for them but don’t want to be associated. And 99% of us aren’t.
Unfortunately instead of using intelligent thought, people default to these guys when they hear white pride instead of realizing, “Hey, if it makes sense for virtually all other races in the world to derive some kind of pride from their cultural history, it probably makes sense for whites too.”
Nope, that wouldn’t support the sad little woe is me world view that plagues so many minorities. Focus on the negative people!! Positive thinking is unfamiliar and scawwy!! Better to be sad and familiar.[/quote]
Good post.
Btw, the “brown pride/white pride tattoo” thing was just an example. It doesnt matter how you express it, if a white person says they are proud to be white or any variation of it, we are viewed as white supremacists.
Im polish, german, italian, and something else i cant even think of off the top of my head. No one would have a problem if i wore a shirt that said “proud to be polish, italian, german and that other stuff too” but if i decide to sum it up by saying proud to be white, im a racist asshole.
The bottom line is if the kid who got shot by Zimmerman was also white, it would be a tragedy but many T-Nation members would probably never even hear about it.
If a white guy gets shot in Gary Indiana by a bunch of black guys, no one is going to hear about it.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
For the record, my actual opinion is that pride in a racial/ethnic/skin color group is hilarious. So what, you were born. Good job being a sperm.
You are proud of things you do, create, organization membership you earned your way in to et cetera. The person you are based on the things you have done and do that make you you, not whose jizz hit whose egg. If that is a source of pride for you, get a fucking hobby or do something worthwhile. I mean that’s like bottom barrel shit.
I want to play the conjecture game too though, in light of white pride being wrong and brown pride being perfectly ok. If you can’t see sarcasm peppered through out, fuck your retarded brain:
Simply put, white people are the most awesome. Just like Rock said. In the world at large, we are definitely a minority. You know, whites vs. other. Doesn’t matter. Through out history, our various cultures have stayed at the forefront of technological, scientific, cultural and military advances.
A boat full of like a few hundred white people stopped on the S. American continent one day and took over the whole fucking thing. N. America too. Hell, at first contact the indigenous people thought whites were God! First impressions say a lot, you know? Anyways, the gods took goods, gold, people. Foreign, unexplored territory, severely outnumbered, didn’t fucking matter. you don’t fuck with God.
Oh yeah Africa. Can’t forget about them. They were easy though, give them some alchohol and they trade their own people. Put the Colt 45 and Mad Dog down ya’ll, we’re using it as a cultural chain, kinda like aids, to keep you down. We just discussed ramping up advertising for alcohol at the lates Supreme Rulers of the Universe Secret Club Meeting, Whites Only. We are disguising our propaganda around the upcoming 4th of July holiday though, you know when everybody drinks, so it’s not so obvious we are just fucking with the brown crowd.
Asia was a little tough obviously but they were also fairly advanced so trade made more sense. Why beat up a buddy, you know? I mean there were a few exceptions but those dudes are pretty fucking tough, really strong willed.
Anyways, where ever God appeared, he not only took what he wanted, people submitted to his culture and still do. Why? Because it’s better than a mud hut and bugs for lunch. Of course you’d like a nice, engineered home, beef, beer, showers… better is just better you know? You’re welcome.
I mean it’s pretty obvious that if any group deserves collective pride it’s whites errr… God.
Just joking. We are all a random union of a sperm and an egg. It’s 2012 and what happened 400 years ago is important to learn but has absolutely no bearing on where you go and what you do today at all. Todays actions by todays people affect us in the here and now.
Lets not be retards.
[/quote]
Though a joke, you might want to study history a bit more instead of just regurgitating what you read in elementtary school.[/quote]
Oh ya secret history where Europeans didn’t do any of that.
Feel free to make a sarcastic post what ever you deem historically accurate if it makes you feel good.[/quote]
I’d be really interested in hearing exactly what parts of that post are so inaccurate seraphim. Cause if i recall correctly, we went over this stuff in college level world history courses as well, not elementary school.
[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
'Remember, according to the National Civil Rights Memorial, 40 people, many of them white, were murdered during the Civil Rights Era from 1955 to 1968 by the Klan and its racist white sympathizers.
The victims include famous cases such as Emmett Till and Medgar Evers, the Philadelphia Mississippi Murders, the Birmingham church bombings, etc. These 40 murder victims of white racism have been memorialized in stone at the National Civil Rights Memorial, in documentaries, movies, books, and in high school and college curriculum across the nation.
The 104 white victims in this post are not memorialized in stone or in documentaries, movies, books or in school curriculum because they are an embarrassment to the “liberal” dogma that forbids mention or criticism of black race hatred of whites. Therefore they have been dropped down the memory hole of “political correctness”.
And these 12 massacres do not include many of the other racist mass murders of whites by blacks such as the Zebra Killings, De Mau Mau, Yahwah Ben Yahwah Cult murders, New Orleans Sniper murders, Fountain Valley Massacre, etc, etc, which account for hundreds more white victims.
Whats wrong SM getting bored over in PWI?[/quote]
PWI has been a little tame recently.
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
YOU must be joking if you think white people do not have a sense of being secure/protected that blacks do not…
LOL[/quote]
Yep - here’s my extra sense of security and protection.
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
If a white guy gets shot in Gary Indiana by a bunch of black guys, no one is going to hear about it.
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Black on whites or whites on blacks crime is what’s hot. Just like interracial porn.
I disagree that you won’t hear of a white guy killed by blacks. We do hear about it. On THE LOCAL NEWS!!! Perhaps the victims’ families don’t have the resource nor the connection nor the desire to have their story broadcast nationally. Blame the big media machine for not giving a fuck about that guy. And who owns the big media machine? Certainly not the black people.
We would have never heard of Trayvon Martin hadn’t his parents decided to go public with the story. This started on the local news, then spread throughout social networks until people paid more attention. The parents felt cheated. They wanted justice. The police had told them they wouldn’t arrest their son’s killer. The guy was getting away with murder, protected by some bitch ass law and the town’s police (with a history of racial injustice).
I have no doubt that had a black man shot a white kid and then let go with a slap on the back, there would still be a big coverage of the story. And even more outrage than it is now.
This story is all over the media because the KNOWN killer is still FREE. The fact that some of you can’t understand that and even whine about this is fucking sad.
By the way, black killers of whites are ALWAYS arrested. So why are you complaining? The system’s on your side. No?
And shit, why the fuck am I back in this thread again???
DN OUT. FOR REAL.
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
If a white guy gets shot in Gary Indiana by a bunch of black guys, no one is going to hear about it.
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Black on whites or whites on blacks crime is what’s hot. Just like interracial porn.
I disagree that you won’t hear of a white guy killed by blacks. We do hear about it. On THE LOCAL NEWS!!! Perhaps the victims’ families don’t have the resource nor the connection nor the desire to have their story broadcast nationally. Blame the big media machine for not giving a fuck about that guy. And who owns the big media machine? Certainly not the black people.
We would have never heard of Trayvon Martin hadn’t his parents decided to go public with the story. This started on the local news, then spread throughout social networks until people paid more attention. The parents felt cheated. They wanted justice. The police had told them they wouldn’t arrest their son’s killer. The guy was getting away with murder, protected by some bitch ass law and the town’s police (with a history of racial injustice).
I have no doubt that had a black man shot a white kid and then let go with a slap on the back, there would still be a big coverage of the story. And even more outrage than it is now.
This story is all over the media because the KNOWN killer is still FREE. The fact that some of you can’t understand that and even whine about this is fucking sad.
By the way, black killers of whites are ALWAYS arrested. So why are you complaining? The system’s on your side. No?
And shit, why the fuck am I back in this thread again???
DN OUT. FOR REAL.
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I agree with most of this. Concerning blacks killing whites being BIG news though, the Channon Christian(son?) case linked by OverStand not being HUGE news, even though the killers were arrested, is weird indeed.
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
The facts of the Trayvon case are not clear and people who demonise Zimmerman and project their own prejudices should be ashamed of themselves. Same with the people who use the incident as a political tool.[/quote]
LMFAO!!
I wish you could say the same about the racist threads you specially created over PWI to vilify muslims/arabs who had committed crimes against whites. Don’t think your shit don’t stink. It does. Like horsheshit.
Lol.
On that note, DN’S out of here.
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When I was talking about people vilifying Zimmerman I was talking about the people and organisations I then went on to mention. If you think I meant you then perhaps that has more to do with how you perceive what you have posted about Zimmerman. And I don’t agree with the way you describe my (unrelated) posts on Islam. But whilst we’re on the subject, didn’t you pop over to PWI and thank some nutjob for his “great” 9/11 inside job conspiracy video? The one about how the Jew Joe Lieberman pulled down WTC 7 so he could profit from his inside information and so forth? Anyway, thanks for your input.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
You’re from Texas. Yea, the KKK is YOUR retarded cousin in the closet.
NOT MINE.
Thanks.
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Uh, no. KKK started in Tennessee in 1865. My kid had to do a project on it a little while ago 
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
…typed out a response, then realized it was best just to sit back and watch.
Once again I’m not sure why an Aussie guy is focusing on events in other countries though. Heck, now I understand why Chushin got so annoyed by that libertarian dude. lol
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Who made it news? Besides, what’s what I’m interested in have to do with anything I’ve posted here or this thread for instance? Nevermind.
[quote]IamMarqaos wrote:
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
You’re from Texas. Yea, the KKK is YOUR retarded cousin in the closet.
NOT MINE.
Thanks.
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Uh, no. KKK started in Tennessee in 1865. My kid had to do a project on it a little while ago :)[/quote]
Hahahahah fair enough.
But by saying “your” in reference, I was really talking about southern WASPS.