Which Test to Choose: Propionate, Enanthate, etc?

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Hey guys,
I’m about to begin my second cycle. Last time around I was using Test-C.
My supplier just gave me a list to choose from. Please recommend a shopping list!

Propionate
Sustanon
Enanthate
Acetate
Para? (not sure what this is, as it’s in another language but sounds like this)
Winstrol
D-bol
Clen

He also has nolvadex and clomid…should i just get the nolva for the PCT?

My goal was originally some Test-E with a borderline TRT/ Blast of perhaps 300-400mg/week but I’m beginning to feel a bit adventurous lol.

Is Winny really that good as some claim?

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I would choose Enanthate and Nolva.

Parabolin, also known as Tren Hex.

I’m not a huge fan and would only use it for a specific purpose: pre-competition drying out.

What is the purpose of this blast/cycle? What are you hoping to achieve from it?

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Just for the test, it depends on how often you want to inject. For the other stuff, bulking or cutting, fat or lean, what are your goals?

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I like test e. I wouldn’t use winny myself because of joint issues that occur for many people. Tbol or var are better for my goals.

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Im looking to put on some lean mass and burn some fat

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ok guys, i just kept it simple and ordered 3 vials of enanthate.

he also had something called “Clen mix” which has 37mcg of Clen, 25 of T3, and 5.4 of Yohimbine.

Wow, first time seeing that one.

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those are diet related goals, and also - you can just pick one at a time…

but why steroids? :slight_smile:

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I would stay away from T3, but that’s just me. I feared screwing up my thyroid and be on T3 thereafter.

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It seemed as if Enanthate yielded better results as the same dosage of Cypionate, but I also seemed to get gyno quicker.

But of the testosterones that I was aware of, I would only use Cypionate or Enanthate to grow muscle. That said, I used testosterone suspension the last 10 days before a show to keep a nice, dry hard look.

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How often did you have to pin that?

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Every day including the morning before pre-judging.

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You understand these are outcomes that require different tactics and don’t happen at the same time?

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you can really screw yourself up with this. like on a med rest of your life screwed up

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Adventurous is a feeling best left for vacations, not putting new things into your body. If you were satisfied with the results on Test-C, do it again. Or switch to Test E. And do Nolv for PCT.

Stay away from the Clen mix shit. Eat clean and smart during your cycle and you WILL get results without taking additional things.

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Thanks guys…
I got my Test-E and immediately pinned 250mg.

I know they say it takes a week or more to feel the effects but I felt some right away today. Call it placebo, my workout was immediately better.

It’s like my air passages were clearer and easier to breathe and i tasted that unique taste in my mouth when using test.

Is this even possible? Or am I just that happy to be on after more than a year off, lol.

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I believe it is largely placebo since it has been less than 24 hours.

However, I also don’t believe that you have to wait until full blood concentration to feel things either. Some down stream effects take weeks or months to feel, but I believe others do happen on the order of hours or days.

I think an individual can FEEL it after just a day or two, but to say HUGE lifting PR’s were made after only a day or two is a stretch and most likely the individual already had that lift in them, they would simply be using the placebo affect to bust through a plateau.

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There is a study out there where they gave natural powerlifters a new super fast acting oral that was designed for strength. I think the average was like a 30 lb PR on the deadlift. They were taking sugar pills. Placebo is a powerful drug.

You can read about it on the Stronger by Science site.

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It would be incredible if somehow we humans could figure out a way to put the placebo effect into a pill. THAT would be worth some money.

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I should have never read that study though, because when I used Anavar, I was like I know this won’t make me instantly stronger, so I wasn’t instantly stronger.

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Always remember that there’s more than the nuclear action of hormones. There’s fast effects (in a few minutes after application) and slower effects (starting at 24 hours and taking effect in days to weeks).

You are right, steady state must certainly not be reached to see or feel an effect.

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