I’m 13? No credit card/online payment form
Edit: will probably ask parents for a pair
Edit pt 2- thanks for the offer though
A new pair of straps is on my Christmas list and I’m 33 years old 
Hook grip is free!
Ahh okay. Might be a little weird to send out your address online then, definitely understand where you are coming from.
Just throw it on your Christmas list, they are pretty cheap like I said
You can pick up a pair of cheap straps at pretty much any sporting goods store for ten bucks, maybe less. I’ve had my cheap pair for years and they’re still fine. High pulls are the only exercise if ever used straps for.
should 13 year olds be layering?
lol
alex train safely, would hate to see SGHP or deadlift layer clusters stunt your growth! i would choose a few inches of height over trap growth if had chance! 
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- Sure- why not?
- Not strong enough to hurt myself
- Sure
- Growth plate damage from lifting is a thing?
- I think I can put on 3+ inches in 7 years (5’7" right now)
lol alright man more power to u. i was playing soccer and did calisthenics @ 13 and didn’t start lifting until 17…yet never made it to 5’7 so u may be on to something !!
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Definitely not
Because it’s a very advanced system. You would not ask a grade school student to do University work. Training is a long term process and you should build a foundation before attacking the more complex programs.
I respect your passion and desire to progress fast. But at 13 years of age, so likely without too much lifting experience, layers are not a good option. You should focus on mastering the big compound lifts (deadlift, squat, bench, overhead press, pulls) and then getting strong at them before layers. And don’t tell me “my lifting technique is really good” … you have elite powerlifters who still work on technique even after 15+ years of training.
A big basic lift programs where you perform the big lifts frequently, with moderate volume and decent weights will be a much better investment than doing layers at the moment. Especially since at 13 you don’t yet have all the anabolic hormones at a high enough level to get the most out of layers.
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First of all you don’t need to use heavy weights to hurt yourself. I have seen tons of people get injured on warm-up sets or very light sets.
Second it’s not about avoiding injuries, it’s about building your structure up. Not just the muscles, but the tendons. As well as coordination. You need to prepare your body for the rigor of all-out training. Furthermore “not strong enough” for layers doesn’t only refer to getting injured. It refers to not being able to use enough weights on the heavy layers to stimulate maximum adaptations.
It is on movements where there is significant spinal loading. I will say that this is the least of your problems though as it has not been demonstrated. In fact some argue that lifting is a good thing for skeletal development and it will increase bone density. BUT that is with “regular” lifting of a moderate intensity. Maximal loading on exercises putting the spine under load are a different animal. I believe that lifting is a good thing for younger individuals in general, but with maximal weights (when the structures are not fully formed and strengthened) it’s not the same animal and can become problematic.
But I will say that this is the weakest argument against layers at your age.
Wile this has nothing to do with layers, you really can’t predict that by yourself.
At 13 I was 5’8" and among the top tier in my class/football team. At 18 I wad 5’9" and still am today.
A friend of mine was a “giant” when he was a kid (he was 5’4" when everybody was 4’5") and he ended up staying at 5’4".
I also know guys who grew almost 6" from 13 to 20.
So this has nothing to do with it being okay to do layers or not, but it is a mistake to try to make predictions about your height.
@alex44938 . I believe t hat doing layers at your age and experience is not going to be effective. It can also be potentially dangerous. As a choice of problem it is completely idiotic, irresponsible and short-sighted. I cannot prevent you from doing it. BUT I will not support it so in the future I will delete any posts you might make on layers. Sorry if that makes me look like an asshole. But it is the responsible thing to do on my part.
If you need any help on things you should be doing at your age and experience level I will be happy to help.
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@alex44938 I posted something along these lines in another members training log who is around your age (he is 15).
At this stage in your life, you shouldn’t worry too much about programming. Rather, consistency of activity and fun.
2-3 times a week lift some weights. Use the big basic lifts (press, bench, squat, dead, row) and do 3-5 sets of 3-5 reps, then 2-3 back off sets of 6-10 reps. You don’t have to kill yourself! Just be consistent and when the weight feels too easy add load.
2-3 times a week move your body in space. Things like pushups, dips, pullups, lunges, squats. Do them in a circuit or just accumulate reps throughout the day.
1-2 times a week do some athletic stuff. Run (sprints, form running, distance, change of direction drills, backpedalling etc.) jump (vertical, box, broad, bounds, hurdles) and throw stuff. Or play pick-up sports. Basketball, flag football, ultimate frisbee, etc. Do this stuff every chance you get.
This isn’t scientific or well laid out, but it doesn’t really need to be for a young guy like you. If you make this stuff fun and do it consistently you’ll build a really nice athletic base that’ll serve you well for years to come.
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At what point would I be strong /advanced enough for layers?
(excuse the thread bump)
@mr.v3lv3t good to know. (not sarcastic)
The later 2 are taken care of. Just playing around with lifting methods (trying to find one that I’ll stick to)
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Sorry to dig an old post, I was just curious about your experience with the HFBB program since I’m also interested in it while also leaning up
I seen your other post, I liked it better then conjugate. It’s a good program but while cutting ? A massive F NO!! I struggled to recover in a surplus! Im also a type 2 something (haven’t quite ever worked it out).
Thanks for the info!
MMM for a 2b cutting would be perfect. The built in progression would insure additional calorie expenditure as you progress through your fat loss phase.
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