Which Laws Should be Abolished?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
This is one question we don’t seem to be able to get an answer to. I don’t remember ever having “family tv night” where we all just sat and watched tv. We had video nights where we went and rented something and we watched. I think some here have made up some fantasy past where tv was only g-rated and all shows at night were all family oriented. Any shows I liked as a kid would have been unrelateable to my parents. While I was into Knight Rider, I seriously can’t see my mom watching that. She never did. What shows were these that inspired the whole family to sit nightly together and watch?

I always had homework to do or games outside to play. I had video games when all else failed and never just sat in front of the tv with my parents. Could someone tell me what shows you all were watching that have now been overshadowed with…gasp…Seventh Heaven?

For the record, I do believe most shows that would even be considered “family oriented” like The Facts of Life or Different Strokes were on way before 8pm. They were on when we got home from school, not that late at night. I think some of you have faulty memories.[/quote]

As a matter of fact we did have family night. I grew up before VHS/Beta tape players, or cable TV became a household regulars, and before anyone ever thought about a home computer.

Family entertainment were usually activities such as mini-golf, or the occasional go-cart race, or movies. We didn’t see very may movies at all as a family. Our cheapest form of entertainment was getting a pizza from Pizza Inn, and watching TV.

Summers were never an issue because we spent almost all of our time at the little league ballpark. I played, my dad was president of the little league, and mom ran the concession stands. From May through the end of July we were baseballing/softballing.

Fall was spent playing football. Practices would last until after 6:30 most nights, and with an 8:30 bedtime there was no TV - except for MNF.

I remember most vividly the winter nights of watching TV with everyone.

I’m going on memory here, so I could be just a litle off. But I know Fridays were the big night. The Brady Bunch, and the Partridge Family. When I got a little older, Quincy was the show to watch. Saturdays were decent as you had Carol Burnett, Bob Newheart, and Hee Haw (don’t laugh - I was raised on the crap).

In point of fact, there Prof - The shows you refer to as being on in the afternoons were re-runs of shows that did air on Thursday nights from 7:00 - 8:00 p.m. on NBC.

So to answer you question - yes we had family nights, usually on the weekends, but we had them nonetheless.

No problem here with museums. My name is not “Ashcroft.” It’s the context of the sex that is disturbing. If it is promoted as being appropriate for young children then I have a problem with it. If it is in the contxt of art, in that the body is beautiful, I think that’s great.

rainjack,

Both programs the Prof mentioned were actually on at 9pm. which is known as “prime time.”

[quote]rainjack wrote:
In point of fact, there Prof - The shows you refer to as being on in the afternoons were re-runs of shows that did air on Thursday nights from 7:00 - 8:00 p.m. on NBC.

So to answer you question - yes we had family nights, usually on the weekends, but we had them nonetheless.
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You’re right, for the most part. Most of those shows were deep into re-runs by the time most my age were coming up. Things change and this isn’t anything new. I personally don’t remember shows like that being on that late at night. They weren’t in my generation. 9pm for us was late when I was a little kid. If I stayed up to 10pm, it was something special. I think many parents need to cease being so anal when there are more options for viewing than ever. So far, nothing you have written makes me doubt you as being a good parent. The way you acted with your son at the nude beach sounds like something I would do (mind you, while I have not had any kids, I have basically helped raise my niece and nephew so child rearing is not foreign to others just because they don’t have kids). The fact that anyone would contemplate regulating all television when the options to monitor your own home are now more plentiful than ever confuse me.

I’m not advocating regulating “All TV” - I never have. I would be really pissed if Nip/Tuck was regulated off the air. All I’m asking for is a throw back to the old days - for one hour.

We watch a lot of alternative programming such as TLC, TDC, History Channel, and the Military Channel. I would just like to have an hour, or so of mindless entertainment that doesn’t have a sponge as the main character. I’m not trying to take anything away from anyone.

Professor wrote:

“I think many parents need to cease being so anal when there are more options for viewing than ever.”

When the “option” of watching quality family entertainment has been taken away during networks prime time, then there is a need for good parents to speak out. That is not being anal, it’s attempting to get back something that you once had.

Professor, would you like it if someone took a “right” away from you that you once had? What if they told you that they would give you a few other things, but you still lose that one important right? I think you would be the first to speak up, and I would agree with you.

All the majority of parnets want is a break from the sleaze during prime time. As I have stated repeatedly, push the “mature programming” back. Rainjack said he would be happy with one hour per night. I would be happy with two. Not that anyone needs to sit in front of their TV sets for two hours in a row, but the two hour time span would give families a network prime time option as to when to view.

I am not suggesting that any of the adult themed shows be taken away from those who like them, only placed at a later time slot.

[quote]ZEB wrote:
Professor, would you like it if someone took a “right” away from you that you once had? What if they told you that they would give you a few other things, but you still lose that one important right? I think you would be the first to speak up, and I would agree with you.
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It wasn’t a right in the first place to have 7-9pm all to yourself. You didn’t pay for that programming. Also, you are talking about some tv schedule that you watched over 20 years ago. No offense, but who gives a shit?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
It wasn’t a right in the first place to have 7-9pm all to yourself. You didn’t pay for that programming. Also, you are talking about some tv schedule that you watched over 20 years ago. No offense, but who gives a shit?[/quote]

It’s not 7-9. It’s 7-8. And there are a whole bunch of folks, as evidenced by the polls cited by ZEB, that would like to have a part of the viewing time given back to them.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
ZEB wrote:
Professor, would you like it if someone took a “right” away from you that you once had? What if they told you that they would give you a few other things, but you still lose that one important right? I think you would be the first to speak up, and I would agree with you.

It wasn’t a right in the first place to have 7-9pm all to yourself. You didn’t pay for that programming. Also, you are talking about some tv schedule that you watched over 20 years ago. No offense, but who gives a shit?[/quote]

Professor:

You are not even trying to debate anymore, I see. You are simply slinging expletives. Okay…I accept your white flag…lol. You didn’t have much of an argument anyway. What should I expect?

Let’s see now did you pay for it? Which 20 something paid for adult themed programming during network prime time? None? Hmm, but it used to be family oriented huh? And that was taken away, huh? Call it what you will it was a “choice” that was taken away! If it was your “choice” you would be screaming mad. I can imagine what you would be saying.

Shame all that empathy you had for your grandmother doesn’t wash over onto the nations children. Then again, I guess you don’t feel much of a connection to the nations children, I wonder why that is…hmmm. Repeat the professors mantra: “I didn’t have those kids, it’s is not my responsibility. It’s all the parent’s fault.” I know…I know. They now have the science channel so what if prime time TV has gone “adult.” I am now convinced that you really don’t get it, and that you are selfish.

[quote]ZEB wrote:
“In a national opinion poll conducted for TV Guide (8/2/03), 57% of TV viewers said they 'noticed an increase in offensive material on television lately.” [/quote]

You have posted this at least three times and it doesn’t say anything to me.

Please show me the poll, I’d really like to see how the question was asked.

Imagine the different response these questions would get, yet are all asking similar things;

  1. Have you noticed an increase in offensive material on television lately?

  2. Do you feel there has been increase in family-friendly material, increase in offensive material, both, or neither n television lately?

  3. Have you noticed an increase in family-friendly material on television lately?

  4. What trends regarding the progamming material on television have you noticed lately?

Do you see how questions can lead the people being polled into the answer they want? I’m not saying this is the case here; I don’t know. Not only that, but this quote doesn’t even refer specifically to prime time, or even free, broadcast TV.

Additionally, you keep refering to these polls. I don’t care about the polls. I was asking what [u]you[/u] specifically find so offensive during prime time. That’s what I’ve been trying to get out of you. What does ZEB not like about prime time.

That’s were all my lists of shows and Nielsen ratings come in. What is offensive? Show me the increase in sexual themes. You’re starting to sound like a simple poll-follower.

“If the polls says so, I have to believe it”

[quote]
In fact, your post is all about your opinion, which is fine, you are entitled to it, but “proves” nothing. Another example: “8pm seems like a reasonable time to me” (for prime time cut off). While that may seem reasonable to “you” that is not what has been traditonal “prime time” in this country:

“Prime time is that portion of the evening when the American audience levels for television viewing are at their highest. In the Eastern and Pacific time zones, prime time is 7:00 - 11:00 p.m., in the Central and Mountain time zones prime time is 6:00 - 10:00 p.m… The 9:00 p.m. hour (Eastern and Pacific) and the 8:00 p.m. hour (Central and Mountain) have the highest HUT (homes using television) level.” [/quote]

Didn’t I say this exact thing. I defined exactly what prime time is, too. So what’s your point? My point is that most children under 13; the ones needing to be shielded from offensive material; are in bed well before prime time is over. Do you disagree? Are most 6-12 year-olds up until 11 pm or later?

And if they are in bed by 8 or 9, what’s the point of pushing adult-themes back even further, if adults are the only ones up and watching?

I’m totally lost on what your point is. You keep showing me some results from some polls. And? Do you agree? What are you getting at. You, ZEB, not the polls.

Rainjack said he wanted one hour to sit and watch some clean, quality TV with his family. I get that. It was stated clearly and I see no problem with that. I still don’t know what you want.

Me, I see no problems. With cable, I have plenty of choices. Is there something that I can watcch with every memeber of my family? Not usually. But that’s because we all have different likes and wants, not because of offensive material.

Well Zeb, I’m 32 years old.How old are you? Rhetorical question, because it doesn’t matter how old you are, you still haven’t figured out what a boycott is, and you certainly aren’t capable of entertaining yourself with anything other than a boob tube.

And for rainjack-Thats 10 peoples uncle. 10 kids that I have had a posative influence on.Passing on things I have learned, helping them to learn and grow, loving and being loved by all of them,respecting and being respected by all of them. It’s a nice feeling, knowing that I have made a difference for the good in their lives.

maloneted:

You actually wrote: “I’m totally lost on what your point is.” I only have one word for you: WOW! If you don’t know by now, I have misjudged you my friend.

Hey…wait a minute is this an old debating trick? When you don’t like the data, polls and facts, question how they were derived! That is an old one. It also shows that you, along with the professor, are out of ideas!

If you really want to know where I got the poll that you mentioned it was done by TV Guide (as I stated) on 8-2-03. Why don’t you call them up and ask them how they took the poll. Every poll mentioned was done by a credible source and I think each was mentioned in the data given.

I have also given plenty of my personal opinion. In fact, if I had given more of my opinion and less facts, you would be stating: “Zeb all you give is opinion back it up with facts.” Yea…Ha ha

You want to know what I think…again? Okay, I will tell you again,no problem.

I think there is to much adult oriented themed programs on prime time network TV. I think that the time slot for adult oriented shows should be pushed back. I also think that families deserve about one to two hours per night without the usual adult themes.

Then again you already know that because I have stated it before. I backed it up with facts because professor claimed that everyone was on his side and I stood alone. When the truth was known it was quite the opposite!

I don’t have to break down each show one by one as it would be very time consuming (just as it would be calling each pollster and asking how they conducted the poll-what a nutty idea…this is a message board).

Also, the “polls” pretty much reflect how I feel about prime time in it’s entirety. It needs to be cleaned up.
I will give you one example: I think the
program “Desperate Housewives” which is obvously adult themed should be pushed back an hour from 9pm to 10pm. It is loaded with sexual scenes depicting couples rolling in and out of bed with each other, etc. While I couldn’t care less, (I am not personally offened…obviously) I don’t think that this show is appropriate for 9,10 or 11 year olds, do you?

Unfortunately, that program is the most popular show with children in that age group! What facts to back up my opinion? How dare I?

“ABC’s Desperate Housewives is the most popular broadcast-network television show with kids aged 9-12 according to Nielsen stats. It airs at 10/9. (Jan. 05)”

Do you want to know how Nielsen asks their questions? lol.

As a great man once said: “I hate to cloud the issue with facts” but I have plenty more for you. When you get done reading, please ask me again exactly what I don’t like about prime time viewing on the networks. I will gladly tell you again. When I am finished telling you I will once again give you more facts to back up my position: The following article refers to the family hour as “obsolete.” This article is dated, “1997” and things have fallen even further since then, but it gets the point across as well as any.

The ‘Family Hour’:
No Place for Your Kids

By Thomas Johnson


I. Introduction

For decades, virtually all television shows airing between 8 and 9 p.m. Eastern and Pacific time (7-8 p.m. Central and Mountain time) were suitable for children. When exceptions to this rule became fairly common in the mid-1970s, the networks, in response to prodding from Congress and the Federal Communications Commission, formally agreed to make the first hour of prime time a “family hour,” to set it aside for all-ages programming. The Writers Guild of America and other groups went to court to challenge the restriction on First Amendment and antitrust grounds, and won: the official family hour was struck down in 1976. Nonetheless, the networks continued to abide by its spirit, and in the succeeding decade and a half the 8-to-9 time slot was home to such wholesome series as Happy Days and The Cosby Show.

However, in recent years programs containing sexual material and vulgar language have invaded this time slot in unprecedented volume, rendering the “family hour” almost obsolete. A February 1996 Media Research Center study which analyzed shows from a four-week period in the fall of 1995 found 72 obscenities in 117 hours of 8-to-9 p.m. programming. Moreover, portrayals of sex outside of marriage – premarital, extramarital, and homosexual – outnumbered those of sex within it by a ratio of 8 to 1.

Parental outrage over this decline in standards provoked a national debate over the quality of prime time fare. Of greatest concern to all parties was the impact of offensive programming on youngsters. Public policy organizations, elected officials, and even some TV executives recognized that the raunch in the 8 p.m. hour had gotten out of hand.

The industry responded not by changing program content, but by implementing, on January 1, 1997, an age-based parental-guidance ratings system which quickly came under fire from all sides. A Parents Television Council study released in February of this year examined two weeks’ of January shows and concluded that the system was so contradictory and inconsistent as to be meaningless. For example, researchers found that more than half of the PG-rated programs contained obscene language or sexual material, even though that rating supposedly indicates a program is appropriate for children as young as ten.

What follows is a sequel to the February 1996 study which reviews four weeks of family-hour shows; it also scrutinizes the performance of the ratings system, as the February 1997 report did. The new study documents that the so-called family hour, once a safe haven for viewers of all ages, may now be the most dangerous time slot for families, a time slot which parents, recalling the favorite TV series of their childhood, may still believe is family-oriented. In fact, though, today’s 8-to-9 viewer is inundated with filthy language, sexual innuendo, and perverse storylines.

Nielsen figures indicate that on an average night, the broadcast networks have 13.1 million prime time viewers age 17 and under. Viewership among the young is especially high before 9 o’clock. According to the ratings for the week of April 14-20, eight of the ten most popular shows among 2-to-5-year-olds, and seven of the ten most watched by 6-to-11-year-olds, aired in the family hour. In short, an awful lot of children are regularly exposed to an awful lot of garbage.


II. Study Parameters

We examined four weeks (January 30 through February 26) of family-hour programming on the broadcast networks (ABC, CBS, Fox, NBC, UPN, and WB). This was a sweeps period, in which local advertising rates are set. Consequently, networks, in order to boost audience ratings for their affiliates, air almost no reruns during this time; new series episodes and special programs dominate the schedule. The study period comprised 93 hours and 144 programs. Only programming made for television was evaluated. Two two-hour programs – the February 3 Melrose Place (Fox) and the February 24 Savannah (WB) – broadcast from 8 to 10 p.m. were treated as if they aired entirely within the “family hour.”

Our main concerns were vulgar language (i.e., swearing) and sexual material. The second category comprises only references to, or depictions of, sexual intercourse. Innuendo was not quantified, but it was undeniably frequent. An especially bawdy example, from the February 5, PG-rated Pearl (CBS), illustrates the type of humor children can hear in sit-coms:

College professor: “I have been involved with the finest balls [in the sense of a social dance] this campus has to offer. Some of them have been quite large.”

Dean: “You were involved with the president’s balls?”

Professor: “Yes, I handled them both.”

There was not enough violence to warrant a separate statistical category, but we kept track of violent depictions and describe them where germane.


III. Results

Overview

A total of 82 obscenities aired, a rate of 0.88 per hour. The fall '95 figure was 0.62 per hour.

“Ass” (29 times) was the most-often-used curse word. Runners-up: “bastard” (13) and various euphemistic and bleeped forms of the f-word (10). The top three in '95: “ass” (29), “bitch” (13), and “bastard” (10).

Fox was easily the most foulmouthed network, with 2.06 obscenities per hour. A distant second was NBC, at 0.91. Worst in '95: NBC, with 1.26.

Exactly one-third – 48 – of the programs contained obscenities.

There were 60 references to sexual intercourse, a ratio of 0.65 per hour. Thirty-two of those references were to premarital sex; twelve were to marital sex; eleven to extramarital sex. (In five instances, marital status was unclear.) The overall sex-outside-marriage to sex-within-marriage ratio was 3.6 to 1. The '95 ratio was 8 to 1.

Fox also was the most sexually obsessed network, with 1.06 references per hour. CBS (0.82) and NBC (0.67) were second and third. Fox led in '95 with 0.88.

Almost 31 percent – 44 – of the programs contained at least one reference to sexual intercourse.

The most family-friendly full-time network, in terms of airing the least foul language and fewest sexual references, was ABC. ABC and CBS were the cleanest in '95.

Thirty-two percent of program hours were rated G; 59 percent were rated PG; 9 percent were rated TV-14. In other words, even by the permissive standards of the networks – which rate their own shows-- only a third of family-hour programming was “suitable for all ages,” as the definition of the G rating states.

Of the 86 family-hour shows rated PG – meaning they’re supposedly appropriate for everyone except young children – 31 (36 percent) contained sexual references, and 42 (49 percent) included obscenities.

Only WB aired more G than PG programming.

No made-for-TV program was rated TV-M, signifying “specifically designed to be viewed by adults.”


The Networks

ABC

Totals: 12.5 hours, 7 obscenities (0.56/hour),
4 sexual references (0.32/hour)
20 shows, 4 (20 percent) with obscenities, 3
(15 percent) with sexual references

TV-G (6 shows, 0 with obscenities, 0 with sex)

TV-PG (13 shows, 4 with obscenities, 2 with sex)

TV-14 (1 show, 0 with obscenities, 1 with sex)

Language: More than two-thirds of ABC’s curse words were found on Roseanne. During the February 18 episode, the title character says of her estranged husband, Dan, “That bastard! I will certainly not calm down! He can just go [bleeped, but clearly the f-word] himself!” She utters two more bleeped words with her back to the camera. The previous week, Roseanne comments, “I’m gonna be squeezing my ass into size 10 pants.” Both episodes were rated PG.

The other obscenities were found on the February 13 High Incident (“Take me to this s.o.b.”) and the February 26 Grace Under Fire (“Lucky bastard”), also PG shows.

Sex: Two references to premarital sex on the February 12 Grace Under Fire, and one on the February 19 installment of the same show; both episodes were rated PG. There was also one miscellaneous reference on the January 30 High Incident (TV-14), when a burglar tells the police that he and his fellow crooks used to break into houses and hold orgies.

High Incident can be violent at times. The January 30 episode, which included a shootout and several bloody corpses, was the only TV-14 ABC show in the study period.


CBS

Totals: 22 hours, 13 obscenities (0.59/hour), 18 sexual references (0.82/hour)
31 shows, 10 (32 percent) with obscenities, 13 (42 percent) with sexual references

TV-G (13 shows, 1 with obscenities, 2 with sex)

TV-PG (18 shows, 9 with obscenities, 11 with sex)

Language: One G-rated show, Everybody Loves Raymond, contained an obscenity on February 7: Raymond calls the child who gave Raymond’s daughter a valentine a “cheap bastard.”

CBS had three of the five uses of “piss” in the study; two were found on PG-rated installments of Ink. On February 3, Kate states that she still has feelings for her ex, “and that is why I’m so pissed off.” The next week, a woman in an office says, “It really scared…us the day the milkman showed up all pissed off.”

PG episodes with more than one obscenity were the January 30 Diagnosis Murder (“bastard,” “frickin’”), the February 19 Pearl (“sucks,” “frickin’”), and the February 21 Dave’s World (“ass,” “screw”).

Sex: All three episodes of Everybody Loves Raymond, which centers on a couple in their mid-thirties and their children, included sexual references. The PG-rated January 31 episode concerns Raymond’s old car, of which he has fond memories inasmuch as he lost his virginity in it during high school. Raymond’s wife, Debbie, wants him to sell the car because she wasn’t the woman her husband lost his virginity to, but after they make love in the car she feels better about his keeping it.

A continuing plot line on Ink is the lingering attraction between Kate and Mike, a divorced couple. In the PG-rated February 3 installment, they visit a therapist, and during the session agree that sleeping together would dissipate the tension between them. “Let’s get it over with,” Kate says. “Like a flu shot,” adds Mike. They go to a hotel. Other PG shows which more than once dealt with sex outside of marriage were Dave’s World (January 31 and February 21) and Pearl (February 5 and 12).


Fox

Totals: 18 hours, 37 obscenities (2.06/hour), 19 sexual references (1.06/hour)
24 shows, 17 (71 percent) with obscenities, 11 (46 percent) with sexual references

TV-PG (18 shows, 13 with obscenities, 6 with sex)

TV-14 (6 shows, 4 with obscenities, 5 with sex)

Language: Fox far exceeded last year’s cursingest network, NBC, which had 1.26 obscenities per hour. Leader of the pack, so to speak, was the two-hour, TV-14 rated February 3 installment of Melrose Place, with six swear words: “son of a bitch” twice, “ass” twice, “bastard,” and “bite me.”

The next week, Melrose featured two uses of “son of a bitch” and one each of “bastard” and “bitch.” (The soap’s 14 obscenities in its four episodes exceeded the totals for all other networks except its own, of course, and NBC, which had 15.)

Honors for second-most curse words in a Fox episode go to the PG-rated February 5 Beverly Hills, 90210, which included three uses of “bitch” and two of “bastard.” The network’s Sunday-night, PG-rated cartoons were by no means obscenity-free: on February 9, The Simpsons contained “freakin’” and “bastard,” and “ass” was heard twice on that night’s King of the Hill.

Fox led in the use of “ass” (13 to second-place UPN’s 7) and “bastard” (6 to CBS’s 3) and dominated both “bitch” and “son of a bitch,” airing six of the seven uses of the latter and six of the eight uses of the former.

Sex: Melrose Place’s 11 portrayals not only equaled NBC’s total, but almost matched the figure for ABC, UPN, and WB combined (12). The episodes of February 10 (PG), 17, and 24 (both TV-14) each referred to premarital, extramarital, and – a nod to traditional morality – marital sex. Next to Melrose, Beverly Hills, 90210, with four references to premarital sex (three TV-14, one PG), seemed tame.


NBC

Totals: 16.5 hours, 15 obscenities (0.91/hour), 11 sexual references (0.67/hour),
30 shows, 12 (40 percent) with obscenities, 9 (30 percent) with sexual references

TV-G (4 shows, 0 with obscenities, 0 with sex)

TV-PG (25 shows, 12 with obscenities, 8 with sex)

TV-14 (1 show, 0 with obscenities, 1 with sex)

Language: The worst offender was 3rd Rock from the Sun (PG) on February 2, with “screwed,” “pissing,” and “bastard.” As did Fox and CBS, NBC aired three euphemistic f-words, two of them on Wings (PG). For example, when Joe’s brother Brian is slated for a sandwich commercial on February 5, Joe complains that his own, supporting role in the ad is that of “a freakin’ pickle.” Chicago Sons (February 5, PG) and Something So Right (February 25, PG) aired the phrase “this sucks.”

Sex: Friends has a well-deserved reputation for being the sexiest sitcom on television, but it’s being challenged for that title by Chicago Sons, which debuted in January. On February 12, three adult brothers and a female friend fly to the Bahamas for a vacation. Their first night there, the oldest brother sleeps with the owner of the resort where they’re staying, and the friend sleeps with an umbrella boy. The next week, that same brother has sex with his estranged wife on top of a kitchen table, and another brother and the female friend take a sex break from his helping her move in with her boyfriend. Both episodes were rated PG.

The Friends weren’t exactly celibate. On January 30, Monica sleeps with her fiftyish boyfriend, with whom she’d broken up because she wanted children and he didn’t. That episode was rated TV-14, apparently because of a plotline involving a man whose shorts are so baggy that his privates are visible when he sits and spreads his legs. Three weeks later, Ross, believing his relationship with Rachel is over, spends the night with a woman he met in a bar. That episode was rated PG.


UPN

Totals: 10 hours, 8 obscenities (0.80/hour), 6 sexual references (0.60/hour)
17 shows, 4 (24 percent) with obscenities, 6 (35 percent) with sexual references

TV-G (7 shows, 1 with obscenities, 3 with sex)

TV-PG (10 shows, 3 with obscenities, 3 with sex)

Language: All but one of the network’s obscenities were “ass.” The word was used three times on the February 3 Malcolm and Eddie (PG); in one instance, Eddie declared, “Somebody call a garden, 'cause your ass is grass.” “Ass” was used twice on the G-rated February 17 In the House. A regular female character says, “You’re about to get your ass busted,” and “Your ass is mine.”

Sex: Three of four In the House episodes (all rated G) contained sexual references. On February 3, a woman tells an ex-boyfriend, “And, for the record, I faked it.” The February 17 Malcolm and Eddie (PG) was quite raunchy; over breakfast, Eddie asks a one-night stand, in so many words, how many orgasms she had.


WB

Totals: 14 hours, 2 obscenities (0.14/hour), 2 sexual references (0.14/hour)
22 shows, 1 (5 percent) with obscenities, 2 (9 percent) with sexual refrences.

TV-G (20 shows, 0 with obscenities, 1 with sex)

TV-PG (2 shows, 1 with obscenities, 1 with sex)

Language: The only curse words (“ass,” “bitch”) were found on the February 24 Savannah (PG), normally a 9 o’clock series which aired a two-hour episode (8-10 p.m.) that night.

Sex: A newly married couple makes love on the aforementioned Savannah, and a fiftyish couple celebrates their anniversary by making love on the G-rated February 23 Steve Harvey Show.


IV. Conclusion

The family-hour picture is, if anything, bleaker than it was in the fall of 1995. Foul language increased dramatically, and even though marital sex makes a better showing than it did in our first family-hour study, it still appears far less often than sex outside of marriage. Moreover, in the first hour of prime time, when the audience skews young, isn’t it reasonable to expect that sexual references of any kind would be extremely infrequent? Alas, in today’s television, such an expectation is extremely unrealistic.

As for the ratings system, it’s often badly misapplied. That UPN’s In the House, which generally contains sexual material and obscenities, is consistently rated G is simply disingenuous. It’s likewise misleading, and absurd, that sexually obsessed, vulgar sitcoms such as NBC’s Chicago Sons and Pearl on CBS are routinely rated PG. On the other hand, the adult-oriented Melrose Place on Fox is usually rated TV-14, appropriately enough, but why is this kind of show on at 8 o’clock, no matter what its rating?

Blame is not equally distributed among the networks. WB has lived up to its reputation as youth-oriented, and ABC provided a great deal of general-audience fare. CBS boasts of its family-friendliness but disappointed because it was only slightly less racy than NBC, which barely even tries to reach the family audience. UPN needs to clean up certain parts of its act, and Fox…well, the numbers speak for themselves.

The powers that be appear willing to consider junking age-based ratings in favor of a content-based system, but as the abundance of raunch detailed above indicates, how or whether to rate its programs is not prime time’s biggest problem. The anything-goes mentality is.

The industry wants to have it both ways. It not only wants to appeal to those who enjoy adult content even between 8 and 9, but also to rate shows deceptively, thereby falsely indicating they’re appropriate for youngsters. This dual strategy must end. Networks should air family-friendly programs before 9 o’clock; either that, or unambiguously state that the family hour is dead, that they will broadcast adult-oriented shows in that time slot, and that parents in search of appropriate television entertainment for their children will have to resort to cable or videocassettes. We would prefer a return to the traditional family hour, but if prime time goes the other way and chooses to neglect the family audience, it ought to forthrightly acknowledge having made this choice.

Research compiled by Jessica Bearor, Christine
Brookhart, Thomas Johnson, and Alice Lynn O’Steen Kapoyos

“Regardless of which level kids were at the beginning of this study, watching more sex on TV was associated with a much higher probability of moving up along the continuum.”

"It’s social learning: ‘monkey see, monkey do’. "If everyone’s talking about sex or having it, and something bad hardly ever comes out of it, because it doesn’t on TV, then they think, ‘Hey, the whole world’s doing it, and I need to.’ "

“Just making small reductions to what kids are exposed to could make a significant difference in how quickly they develop sexually.” - Rebecca Collins, PhD, senior author of a new study called Watching Sex on Television Predicts Adolescent Initiation of Sexual Behavior, which appears in the September 2004 issue of Pediatrics.

[quote]mindeffer01 wrote:
Well Zeb, I’m 32 years old.How old are you? Rhetorical question, because it doesn’t matter how old you are, you still haven’t figured out what a boycott is, and you certainly aren’t capable of entertaining yourself with anything other than a boob tube.

And for rainjack-Thats 10 peoples uncle. 10 kids that I have had a posative influence on.Passing on things I have learned, helping them to learn and grow, loving and being loved by all of them,respecting and being respected by all of them. It’s a nice feeling, knowing that I have made a difference for the good in their lives.[/quote]

mindeffer01:

I know exactly what a boycott is. I also know what the FCC is and I know the power of an organized group. I also know that time is right because of Ms. Jacksons “show.”

As far as not being able to entertain myself with nothing other than “the boob tube” you are once again mistaken. As I have repeatedly stated, I am looking at this issue more from a total perspective of all families in the country. It is a nation wide problem. I watch very little TV in the course of a week. Oh…I did say that at least three times, maybe four.

From this point forward I must insist that you (or anyone else who wants to jump in, and all are welcome) read my posts before responding. Hey…it’s only fair I have to read yours…

More interesting information for those who feel their “rights” are being trampled on by the weight of the FCC:

“The reason the government can regulate broadcast TV and radio at all is that it owns the air. The FCC licenses frequencies on the airwaves, a public resource. In return, broadcasters must meet public-service requirements and obey decency rules, which ban “language or material that, in context, depicts or describes, in terms patently offensive as measured by contemporary community standards for the broadcast medium, sexual or excretory activities or organs.” That’s why the FCC can police four-letter words on NBC but not in a movie or this magazine. (Pornography is different, because the law distinguishes “obscenity” from “indecency.”)”

There is more to it, however you get the idea. When the hammer comes down on the networks (and it has already begun) you will know from where they get their power.

WHEW! Finally ZEB! You finally give an example of something that may be offensive; Desperate Housewives. I can see that may be offensive to people, and it’s definitely innappropriate for young children. Incidently, Desperate Housewives was not listed in this week’s lineup that I posted(I posted weekdays only, it airs on Sundays), and it’s not something I watch; so excuse me if I forgot about this particular show. Besides, is it really much worse than Dynasty or Knots Landing? Again, I’m just comparing to shows from 20-25 years ago; that’s how this whole debate started.

So you want it pushed back an hour? You say it airs at 9 pm; what time zone? Know what, it doesn’t matter. 9 pm is outside of the “family-hour” anyway. But at least I now know one show that you don’t like. Took a lot of work to get that out of you.

Why wouldn’t I question them? Polls use leading and guidng questions all the time. I never said I was doubting them, Just questioning them.

Out of ideas for what? I took you over 15 replies to name one show that you found so offensive. You’ve been running circles around my questions and never clearly answer any of them.

[quote]You want to know what I think…again? Okay, I will tell you again,no problem.

I think there is to much adult oriented themed programs on prime time network TV. I think that the time slot for adult oriented shows should be pushed back. I also think that families deserve about one to two hours per night without the usual adult themes.[/quote]
Wow, things are a lot easier to debate when you come out and say what you mean, huh? Now I know what you want. You never came out and said this in any of your previous posts. You may have thought it was implied, but I, along with others, missed it.

[quote]Then again you already know that because I have stated it before.[/quote]No, you never clearly stated it. You danced with the idea, assuming everybody new what ZEB wanted since you showed us the polls. [quote]I backed it up with facts[/quote] Only your last post comes close to “backing it up with facts”. Your opinion, that there is too much adult material during prime time, is just that; your opinion. No matter how may polls agree with you. That’s just a bunch of people with agreeing opinions. Your last post, that actually counts numbers of sexual incidents and profanity, is the only time you used facts to enforce your opinion.[quote] because professor claimed that everyone was on his side and I stood alone. When the truth was known it was quite the opposite![/quote] Not “quite the opposite”. Hovering somewhere in the middle. None of your polls showed an overwhelming majority. Not only that, but ToShinDo added more results from the same poll that disagreed with you.

So you show me a study that shows a lot of sex and profanity during family hour. Notice that we are talking about “family hour” now, not all of “prime time”. Good, that’s a start.

First, read this:

So, could I be right? Family started getting invaded in the 70’s. So is it possible that there isn’t that much of an increase in adult themes? I already agreed that there has been an increase, I just don’t think it is as drastic as some make it out to be.

Next:

Unprecedented? What are they comparing this to? Memory? Is there a study of shows from yesteryear that shows the volume of sex and profanity? If so why didn’t they refernce it and compare numbers?

These numbers they show now mean nothing when not compared to any other numbers. You’ve got to be able to see that.

I’m not disagreeing that there is sex and profanity in prime time television, and you showed me numbers to prove there is. But has it really changed much in the last 25 years?

Not only that, but I don’t like some of the words they use to define profanity. Frickin, freaking, and sucks are not cuss words. And “bastard”?!? C’mon. Why not add “shoot” “darn” and “golly”?

So we finally got somewhere. I agree with you that Desperate Housewives can be offensive and is not appropriate for children(although I can’t find age-group breakdowns of the nielsen ratings anywhere). You want it pushed back an hour. Whatever, doesn’t bother me any. But also realize that it is already not in the “family hour”.

And, for the record, I have read all of your posts so far.

Maloneted:

As much as you want 9pm to not be prime time, I’m sorry to tell you that it is indeed prime time!

“Prime time is that portion of the evening when the American audience levels for television viewing are at their highest. In the Eastern and Pacific time zones, prime time is 7:00 - 11:00 p.m., in the Central and Mountain time zones prime time is 6:00 - 10:00 p.m… The 9:00 p.m. hour (Eastern and Pacific) and the 8:00 p.m. hour (Central and Mountain) have the highest HUT (homes using television) level.”

Desperate Housewives is on during prime time and as I have already posted it’s number one with children 9-12! If you don’t think that’s a problem I would have to disagree.

You mention Dynasty and Knots Landing being as bad as “Houswives.” I doubt it, but I have no proof either way (It is apparently not that important with you anyway…proof that is). I can make an "educated guess that neither Dynasty or Knots Landing was number one in the 9 to 12 year old age group.

That my friend makes all the difference to me!

While I never mentioned one specific program (excluding the last post) my point was still clear. You seem to think that mentioning one program is more important than pointing out how “mature” many of the prime time programs have become, and then offering data in the form of polls proving that the majority of Americans agrees with me? That is whacky! I think you might be debating this point, just for the sake of it, not because you are correct.

As you well know if I mentioned even a handful of programs you would have accused me of not seeing the broader picture. (yawn)…it’s old man…and it’s not working for you.

If you really didn’t know what my point was prior to that last post then you are a very slow learner. We both know that’s not the case so stop playing. I did point it out and you did read it.

There is a huge increase in adult themed shows during prime time over and above the 70’s, 80’s and obviously before that. The fact that you are stating: “So is it possible that there isn’t that much of an increase in adult themes, [since the 1970’s?]” is ludicrous!

I know how you hate facts, but inspite of that, let me give you a little history lesson relative to television and it’s ever growing “mature themed” invasion of prime time.

The growth of cable TV (late 70’s) eventually brought about a rush of adult themed programs into the family hour. I think the networks felt that they had to keep up and then the race was on! It began slowly in the eighties and escalated many times over into the 90’s and today.

"1981 Saturday Night Live’s “Weekend Update” anchor Charles Rocket lets a profanity slip and is fired. (Can you imagine someone actually being fired in 2005 for letting a profanity slip?)

  •     From 1981 to 1985, the ?big-dish? C-Band satellite market began to take off.  System sales soared as hardware prices fell, and the idea of a practical DBS system was beginning to take shape. Hardware prices begin to drop, estimated 33,500 systems shipped. Stanley S. Hubbard, USSB, files for first DBS license in 1981.
    
  •     1983: Hughes Communications launches Galaxy I?first satellite dedicated to cable TV distribution.
    
  •     1984: President Ronald Reagan signs ?Cable Communications Policy Act of 1984? including Section 705, a provision legalizing the private reception of unscrambled satellite television programming. Satellite hardware prices drop below $5,000. Industry ships 515,000 systems.
    
  •      1985: Home Box Office announces its plan to market scrambled HBO and Cinemax programming to home satellite TV viewers via local cable companies. Hardware prices drop below $3,000. Industry enjoys record year, ships 735,000 systems. Reps. Billy Tauzin (D?LA) and Charlie Rose (D?NC) introduce H.R. 1840, a bill guaranteeing access to scrambled satellite TV programming at ?reasonable? rates. Senator Albert Gore (D?TN) introduces S. 1618, a companion bill to H.R. 1840.
    
  •      1986: HBO becomes the first programmer to scramble its movie services full?time. M/A?COM introduces ??alone? VideoCipher II consumer decoder. Industry rocked by negative press coverage and cable-?led anti-dish advertising campaign. Shipments plummet to 235,000 as over 50% of all satellite retailers close their businesses. First integrated receiver/decoder introduced by Houston Tracker Systems. SBCA founded on December 2 as a result of a merger between the Society for Private and Commercial Earth Stations (SPACE) and the Direct Broadcast Satellite Association (DBSA). Federal Communications Commission adopts rule which would preempt local zoning or other regulations governing the size and placement of earth station antennas.
    
  •      1986 Fox broadcast network launched
    
  •      1986 First Time the Word "Condom" Used in Prime Time on Cagney & Lacey.
    
  •     1987: FCC clarifies its earlier ruling calling for non?discrimination against satellite TV antennas and drops requirements.  Senator Gore and Representative Tauzin introduce S. 889/H.R. 1885 ?legislation calling for third?party packaging and consumer access to network signals, among other provisions. Reps. Robert Kastenmeier and Mike Synar introduce H.R. 2848, legislation clarifying the rights of dish owners to continue to access the superstation and network signals. Hardware prices drop to $2,000 as sales continue in the industry. Annual shipments rise slightly, totaling 268,000. First comprehensive programming packages hit the market. Initial reports of VideoCipher II security compromise surface, problem grows throughout the year. Matsushita, as part of joint licensing agreement with COMSAT, begin selling flat plate antennas in Japan.
    
  •     1988: December 1988 - President Reagan signs into law a bill requiring the FCC to implement 18 U.S. Code ? 1464 banning indecent broadcasts completely ? a 24-hour ban.  
    
  •     1988: SBCA establishes industry?wide Anti?Piracy Task Force (APTF) to combat signal theft problem. President Reagan signs Satellite Home Viewer? Act into law, legislation establishes special copyright license for delivery of superstation and network broadcast signals to DTH marketplace, also toughens penalties for theft of satellite signals. SBCA holds semiannual trade show in Las Vegas, Nevada. Predictions for dish sales for 1988 at 300,000. Piracy problem escalates. In September, General Instrument announces plans to introduce VideoCipher II Plus within a year. 
    
  •     1989: SBCA launches aggressive anti?piracy program.  Piracy problem persists, VideoCipher II Plus fully introduced in market, Anti?Piracy Task Force conducts major raids of pirate operations nationwide. Industry ships 383,000 units
    
  •     1990: Satellite industry marks three millionth unit shipped.  Last VideoCipher II is shipped into market.
    
  •     1990: DC Circuit Court requires the FCC to lift the 24-hour ban on indecency
    
  •      1991: The first lesbian kiss on network television occurred on the 2/7/91 episode of L.A. Law which featured a prolonged kiss between two female lawyers.
    

Lesbian Kiss

People make out all the time on soap operas, but ABC promises something new on next Tuesday’s episode of All My Children. That’s when the lesbian lip-lock will make its DAYTIME TELEVISION debut.

It’s a kiss 20 years in the making. All My Children already made soap opera history by introducing a lesbian character in 1983. And it comes 12 years after two female lawyers shared a lingering kiss in a 1991 episode of L.A. Law. In fact, while it’s not exactly routine, a kiss between women is no longer a PRIME TIME TABOO- you can see it on Roseanne or Buffy the Vampire Slayer reruns.
However, daytime TV has been slow to breach its sexual taboos. As The World Turns introduced the first recurring gay character in 1988, more than 10 years after Billy Crystal first appeared as a gay man on the soap opera parody called Soap. But even in PRIME TIME it took until last season for a steamy homosexual kiss between two men to make network television on
Dawson’s Creek.

(Yes…begun a few years back, but it grew to what we have today!)

1991: Senator Albert Gore (D?TN) reintroduces cable legislation (S?12). PRIMESTAR launches first medium?powered Ku?band service. General Instrument and SkyPix demonstrate digital video compression.

  •     1992 to present (2004): Satellite television service takes off ? estimated 19 million subscribers, making it one of the hottest and fastest growing consumer electronics products of all time.  The industry has seen the delivery of interactive TV services, two-way high-speed Internet access via satellite, and the emergence of satellite radio. Consumer upgrade and conversion to VideoCipher II Plus and VCRS (VideoCipher Renewable Security) begins. Some 400,000 consumers receive new decoders at no charge. Programmers begin shutting down VideoCipher II data stream, VideoCipher II Plus remains secure. Congress overrides President Bush? veto of Cable Act. Legislation guarantees access to satellite?delivered cable programming services by alternative multichannel video providers such as DBS operators. DBS Center announces the one millionth authorized VideoCipher. SBCA President Chuck Hewitt announces that the last half of 1992 is the industry? best since scrambling. General Instrument demonstrates the first satellite ?delivered digital High Definition Television (HDTV). Hughes announces DIRECTV DBS project.
    
  •     1993: Satellite industry ships 4 millionth home satellite television system. SBCA launches SkyTRENDS project. Programming subscription levels skyrocket as hundreds of thousands of former ?? convert to legal subscriptions. Nashville, TN hosts the largest satellite industry trade show in SBCA history as over 6,400 flock to Opryland to visit with new DBS companies.
    
  •      1993: With NYPD Blue, Steven Bochco launches network TV's first R-rated series. A quarter of ABC's 225 affiliates pre-empt the first episode. NYPD Blue would also gain infamy as one of the first prime time network series to regularly show naked buttocks.  
    
  •      1993: First recorded use of the word ?asshole? on broadcast TV in PTC?s ETS database.
    
  •     1994: PRIMESTAR rolls out nationwide digital TV service via medium?power Ku?Band satellite. Company unveils plans to transition to high?power DBS operations in 1996. PRIMESTAR ends 1994 with 350,000 units shipped, approximately 250,000 subscribers. Thomson Consumer Electronics sells first DSS system to consumer in Jackson, MS in mid?June. Company, joined by DIRECTV and USSB, launch the first national advertising campaign in DTH history. Thomson ships nearly 600,000 DSS systems by year? end, DIRECTV/USSB report about 350,000 subscribers on?line. C?Band DTH shipments surge to historic levels, hitting nearly 85,000 in August, total 646,000 for the year. At year? end, 2.2 million American households are purchasing programming via C?Band DTH satellite systems.  EchoStar Communications completes $335 million debt offering for DBS service to begin in late 1995.
    
  •      1994: First recorded uses of the words ?screw? and ?piss? on broadcast TV in PTC?s ETS database. 
    
  •      1995 UPN and WB launched as broadcast networks
    
  •     1995: AlphaStar announces plans to launch DBS service.  DIRECTV, USSB and PRIMESTAR announce plans to spend nearly $170 million in advertising in 1995. General Instrument begins $15 million Full View Ad campaign. February sees the highest monthly shipment figures for C?band in 1995 ? 45,000 systems. DIRECTV authorizes Toshiba, Uniden and Hughes Network Systems to manufacture DSS equipment. FCC strips Advanced Communications of 110 degree orbital slot. Four million shares of EchoStar DISH stock offered at $17 ? $63 million raised. TCI begins trial sales of PRIMESTAR system for $599 (installation included). EchoStar successfully launches DBS?1 satellite. FCC votes to auction DBS channels at 110 degrees.
    
  •      1995: First recorded use of the word ?dick? in PTC?s ETS database
    
  •     1996: AT&T invests $137.5 million for 2.5% of DIRECTV. Companies announce plans for joint marketing efforts.  SBCA conducts largest trade show in Association history at Las Vegas Hilton. EchoStar launches DISH network on March 4. AlphaStar network launches in July 1996. As of November 1996, 2.5 million DSS satellite systems sold in the U.S.
    
  •      Jan 3, 1996: Telecommunications Act of 1996 is passed; allows anyone to enter the communications business ? to let any communications business to compete in any market against any other.
    
  •      April 12, 1997: Norm MacDonald lets the f-word slip during SNL's "Weekend Update." He is not fired.
    
  •      April 1997 Ellen DeGeneres becomes the first lesbian character to star in a lead role in a prime time series. 
    
  •      1997: First recorded use of the words ?tits? and ?bullshit? in PTC?s ETS databse.
    
  •      1997: Supreme Court upholds  Pacifica ruling in Reno v. ACLU
    
  •     1997: PRIMESTAR moves its service to a new medium-power satellite that increases its capacity to a total of 160 channels. AlphaStar network discontinues service. FCC uses new regulatory authority to overturn restrictive zoning ordinances and private covenants. Librarian of Congress upholds the Copyright Arbitration Rate Panel's (CARP) recommendation to raise the copyright rates for DTH satellite carriers. Congress introduces new legislation that would stay the new rate increases until Congress has time to consider its impact on competition in the video marketplace.
    
  •     1998: On December 30, 1998, the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida issued a permanent injunction in the CBS, Fox v. PrimeTime 24 case. The injunction, when combined with the earlier preliminary injunction issued by the same court, could disrupt service to millions of DTH satellite television subscribers nationwide.  The Federal Communications Commission issued its rules for DBS public service obligations, which were originally mandated by the 1992 Cable Act, requiring DBS providers set aside four percent of their video channel capacity for non-commercial programming of an educational or informational nature, and restricting the number of channels a platform can offer to any single national educational/ informational programmer to one.  Satellite TV surpasses 10 million subscriber mark in November, with DTH adding more than 1.6 million subscribers in 1998. The Consumer Electronics Manufacturers Association (CEMA) launches the TV Antenna Selector Map Program. Using color-coded maps that match antenna performance, the new program will help satellite retailers and consumers select the appropriate type of antenna based on television reception location. EchoStar Communications and News Corp. agreed to a deal swapping satellite licenses and hardware for common stock shares totaling around $1 billion. The stock transfer of about 24 million shares will give News Corp. a 30 percent share in EchoStar and will give MCI/Worldcom a 7 percent share. Hughes Electronics Corp. Agreed to Buy U.S. Satellite Broadcasting in a Deal Worth $1.3 Billion in Cash and Stocks. The agreement will combine Hughes? DirecTV programming with soon-to-be former partner USSB?s premium movie broadcasts, increasing DirecTV?s total channels to 210 from 185. Slightly more than four years after launch, DIRECTV announced that it had reached the 4 million subscriber milestone. PRIMESTAR announced that it had ended plans to create a joint high-power DBS operation at 110 degrees West with the Rupert Murdoch-owned ASkyB Corporation. The company said that it will concentrate on expansion of its existing medium-power DBS business while also moving forward to launch a differentiated service using the 11 high-power DBS channels at 119 degrees West which are owned by TEMPO. EchoStar Satellite Corp. and Loral Skynet agreed in principle to form a strategic alliance to offer new digital-based services to cable operators, programmers, and DTH consumers. According to the companies, the alliance will create the only DVB (digital video broadcast) DTH platform in the United States that allows specialized and mainstream programming to be packaged separately, yet received in the same set-top box and accessible through a single smart card and electronic program guide. In August, the FCC issued its Order on Reconsideration on several cases involving satellite dish placement. The FCC ruled against the following restrictions: a central community dish restricting a consumer?s right to an individual dish; homeowner?s associations or municipalities requiring prior-approval permits for dish installation (except in cases of legitimate safety or historic preservation purposes); mobile home parks restricting residents from installing dishes if they lease the property on which their home rests; and, homeowners associations levying fines against consumers who challenge installation restrictions. Order went into effect January 22, 1999.  The SBCA announced plans to develop and implement an industry-wide retail certification and standards program, offering five separate areas of certification including: installation and integration; programming; sales and marketing; business management; and customer service. SBCA ?98 First National Convention A Success ? The SBCA?s first-ever national convention, SBCA ?98: National Satellite Convention and Exposition, held July 23-25 at the Opryland Hotel in Nashville, TN, attracted over 5,000 attendees. AT&T, the nation?s largest long distance company and Tele-Communications, Inc. (TCI), the number two cable company in the United States agreed to merge. The deal, valued at nearly $70 billion, set the stage for nationwide local telephone/Internet competition between AT&T and the Regional Bell Operating Companies (RBOCs).
    
  •      November 8, 1999 - FCC's Enforcement Bureau is established
    
  •     1999: November: President William J. Clinton signs the Satellite Home Viewer Improvement Act (SHVIA) into law that for the first time allows consumers to receive their local broadcast signals via their direct broadcast satellite system.  The move is intended to increase competition between the DBS industry and competing multichannel video providers, most notably, cable television.  The SBCA and its member companies worked diligently on Capitol Hill and at the FCC to ensure passage of the legislation.  In January EchoStar Communications announced that its total subscribers numbered over 2 million. Hughes Electronics and DIRECTV announced their agreement with PRIMESTAR, Inc., to acquire the 2.3 million-subscriber PRIMESTAR direct broadcast satellite medium-power business and Tempo high-power satellite assets in two transactions valued at approximately $1.82 billion. DIRECTV gains 11 transponders at the 119 degrees West longitude slot, and two satellites (one to be launched as a back up for DIRECTV or other Hughes-related businesses) from Tempo Satellite Inc. This gives DIRECTV high-power DBS frequencies at each of the three orbital slots that provide full coverage of the continental United States: 101, 110, and now the 119 degrees West longitude slot.
    
  •      1999: First recorded use of the word ?shit? in PTC?s ETS database ? on CBS?s Chicago Hope. 
    
  •      March 30, 2001:  FCC imposes its first fine against a television station for an indecent broadcast: a $21,000 fine for television indecency to Telemundo of Puerto Rico
    
  •      April 6, 2001:  FCC Publishes Industry Guidelines on Indecency.
    
  •     2001: The SBCA and the nation?s two Direct Broadcast Satellite (DBS) television providers, DIRECTV, Inc. and EchoStar Communications Corp., filed suit in Federal District Court in the Eastern District of Virginia to protect the First Amendment rights of DBS satellite television providers, programming suppliers and current and future satellite television subscribers all across America.  Beginning on January 1, 2002, the Satellite Home Viewer Improvement Act (SHVIA) mandates that once a satellite carrier exercises its editorial discretion to provide the programming of any local television broadcast station within that station?s local market, the satellite carrier must, upon request, carry without compensation the signals of every television broadcast station located within that local market.  The civil complaint filed today against the United States government, the Federal Communications Commission and the U.S. Copyright Office challenges the must carry provision (47 U.S.C. ? 338) and asks that the court find that it is unconstitutional.  The DBS industry believes that the marketplace should dictate channel carriage, not a federal mandate.
    
  •      January 1, 2003: PTC Launches FCC Campaign
    
  •      January 22, 2003: FCC Commissioner Michael Copps calls broadcast industry ?A race to the bottom? in a speech at NAPTE 2003 Family Programming Forum re: Family Hour
    
  •      January 25, 2003: PTC Members file 18,000 complaints about "F-word" airing during Golden Globes Broadcast. 
    
  •      February 27, 2003: The F-word is uttered and airs unbleeped during an episode of ?I?m a Celebrity?Get Me Out of Here!?
    
  •      February 27, 2003: Brent Bozell testifies at an FCC town hall meeting in Richmond, VA and calls on the FCC to enforce television decency standards.
    
  •      April 30, 2003 Pro-family coalition meets with several FCC commissioners (Copps, Abernathy and Martin) and demands action on the issue of television Decency standards.
    
  •      June 10, 2003 Fox airs an episode of freshman drama Keen Eddie in which a female prostitute is hired to perform a sex act on a horse to harvest its semen.  PTC Members file 20,000 complaints with the FCC.
    
  •      June 25, 2003: Brent Bozell sends a letter to FCC Chairman Michael Powell regarding an episode of Fox?s Keen Eddie. 
    
  •      July 2, 2003: Michael Copps gives FCC a grade of ?F? for failure to take strong action against indecency.
    
  •      July 8, 2003: Kevin Martin sends a letter to the PTC concerning broadcast indecency and in response to our 4/30 mandate.
    
  •      July 9, 2003: KQRD-FM Kansas City airs a live segment in which a male employee of the morning show stands alongside of a rush hour jammed freeway to hand out free lottery tickets.  The man is naked, except for the tickets taped to his body.  
    
  •      July 14, 2003: PTC Kansas City chapter filed a FCC indecency complaint against KQRC-FM for its indecent radio stunt
    
  •      July 23, 2003: PTC President Brent Bozell testifies before the Senate Commerce Committee that the FCC has refused to do its job to enforce broadcast decency laws.
    
  •      August 8, 2003: Sen. John McCain sent Brent a letter as a response to Brent calling for stiffer broadcast indecency fines.
    
  •      October 2, 2003: FCC fines WWDC-FM $55,000 for two instances of broadcast indecency where the host of the morning talk program engaged in and broadcast frank sexual discussions with two underage female callers.  
    
  •      October 2, 2003: FCC fines 13 Infinity affiliates $27,500 each for broadcasting an episode of ?Opie and Anthony? where two people had sex inside St. Patrick?s Cathedral.
    
  •      October 2, 2003: PTC calls for better enforcement of indecency after paltry fines are levied for indecent radio broadcasts on 13 of Infinity?s affiliates during the ?Opie and Anthony Show? and Clear Channel?s ?Elliot in the Morning? on WWDC-Washington DC
    
  •      October 2, 2003: FCC Commissioner Michael Copps sends out a press release in dissention of the FCC?s small fines against radio indecency by ?Opie and Anthony? and ?Elliot in the Morning.?
    
  •      October 3, 2003 - FCC enforcement bureau, headed by David Solomon finds that Bono?s statement that aired live and unbleeped on NBC during the Golden Globes award ceremony ?This is really, really f*ckin? brilliant? is not indecent because it was used as and ?Adjective or expletive.? 
    
  •      October 21, 2003: Brent Bozell calls for FCC Commission action re: f-word ruling
    
  •      October 27, 2003: FCC Commissioner Michael Copps sends a letter to Brent in dissent of FCC f-word ruling
    
  •      November 17, 2003: NBC replies to PTC?s appeal to Golden Globes decision
    
  •      November 21, 2003: 30 U.S. Representatives send a letter of disapproval to FCC Chairman Michael Powell for the FCC?s f-word ruling and call on him to reverse the decision and sanction broadcasters who violate decency standards.
    
  •      November 21, 2003: Rep. Chip Pickering sends a letter of disapproval to FCC Chairman Michael Powell re: FCC?s Golden Globe f-word ruling and calls on him to enforce the ban on profanity on the public airwaves.
    
  •      November 25, 2003: FCC Chairman Michael Copps sends Brent a letter stating his opinions re: FCC ruling on Golden Globes f-word.  
    
  •      December 5, 2003: In a speech to the Institute on Telecommunications Policy & Regulation, FCC Commissioner Kevin Martin denounces FCC's Golden Globes ruling.
    
  •      December 5, 2003: Kevin Martin sends letter to Brent Bozell regarding the FCC?s ruling on the Golden Globes ?f-word? incident. 
    
  •      December 9, 2003: Sense of the Senate resolution passed re: broadcast indecency
    
  •      December 10, 2003 During the Billboard Music Awards on Fox, Nicole Riches airs the seemingly scripted line: ?Have you ever tried to get cow sh*t out of a Prada Purse?  It?s not so f*ckin? simple.?  The words are neither bleeped nor obscured in the East or Central viewing zones. PTC Members file 25,000 complaints with the FCC.
    
  •      December 15, 2003: Reps Doug Ose and Lamar Smith introduce legislation making eight words (including "F--k") and phrases indecent no matter how they?re used.
    
  •      December 17, 2003:  FCC Commissioner Kathleen Abernathy sends letter to Brent re: FCC?s ruling on the Golden Globes ?f-word?
    
  •      December 19, 2003: Rep. Pickering sends a letter to the FCC's Enforcement Bureau chief David Solomon about the indecent language on the Billboard Music Awards, stating that he believes the incident is a direct result of the FCC's October Golden Globes ruling.
    
  •      January 14, 2004: In a speech at the National Press Club, FCC Chairman Michael Powell expresses his interest in reversing the enforcement bureau?s ruling on the ?F-word? at the Golden Globes. Powell also asks to be able to increase fines tenfold. 
    
  •      January 27, 2004: FCC announces second-ever fine against a TV station for airing indecent material, $27,500 against KRON Channel 4 in San Francisco. During an interview with performers of the "Puppetry of the Penis," who wore capes but nothing else, one of the actors exposed himself. The FCC said the station should have expected that such a display could have occurred and should have taken steps to prevent it. 
    
  •      January 27, 2004: $755,000 fine against Clear Channel Communications for a sexually explicit radio show aired on four stations, the second-highest such fine ever proposed.  The stations - all in Florida - aired various episodes of "Bubba the Love Sponge" a total of 26 times. The commission proposed fining Clear Channel the maximum $27,500 for each time the episode ran, or $715,000. 
    
  •      January 28, 2004: PTC President Brent Bozell testifies in Congressional Hearing examining the FCC?s record of enforcement with respect to Broadcast Indecency. 
    
  •      February 1, 2004: Janet Jackson exposes her breast during the Super Bowl half time show to a national audience of over 140 million including more than 16 million children.  
    
  •      Week of February 1, 2004: More than 200,000 citizens file indecency complaints with the FCC about the Super Bowl half time show. 
    
  •      February 2, 2004: FCC Chairman Michael Powell announces that the FCC will launch an immediate and thorough investigation of what happened during the half time show.
    

That’s why we have studies such as this:

“A majority of parents say they are “very” concerned about the amount of sex (60%) and violence (53%) their children are exposed to on TV. After being read arguments on both sides of the issue, nearly two-thirds of parents (63%) say they favor new regulations to limit the amount of sex and violence in TV shows during the early evening hours, when children are most likely to be watching (35% are opposed). - Kaiser Family Foundation, 9/23/04.”

Parents are disgusted relative to the amount of adult themed television aired during prime time (and in general).

As you can see it was a gradual decline through the years ending in the prime time mess that we have today.

To even question that todays programs are no worse (adult themed) than in the 1970’s is indeed foolish!

If you have some evidence of any kind to support your point, please post it. Otherwise it might be time to agree with your friend Zeb :wink:

So Zeb, Technology has come a long way, and there is more profanity and obscenity on telivision.
So what are you doing about it?

Have you joined a lobbying group?

Are you moderating what is watched in your household?

Are you doing anything pro-active to move toward your goal of a cleaner, more palateble Prime time?
(besides ranting on a bodybuilding website)
I have read your posts and that is why I am asking these questions. If you consider suggestions like Get your children to read more books, and Watch what your children are doing, to be useless contributions, then there is something wrong with you. If you aren’t willing to do some of these simple things, what makes you think there is going to be any reciprocation from the American television viewers and programmers? If you actualy were taking any or all of those actions, these elements you have designated as problems would become non-issues.

It seems you are spending way too much time living in the problem and not in the solution.
It probably wouldn’t even be worth it to suggest that Art Immitates Life, or is it vice-versa? There must not be any sex, violence, marital, or family dis-function in Zebworld.

Ok, now where getting somewhere. Your last two posts tell me more than your first 15.

I am still slightly confused in what you want to clean up, though. You keep bouncing back and forth between prime time and family hour. Do you want a cleaner family hour - which I can see and have no problem with - or do you want all of prime time cleaned up - which I don’t agree with or think is necessary.?

To clean up family hour is fine with me; I didn’t know it was so “polluted”. You finally show me two good posts that show how much sex and profanity is present during family hour. I don’t know, like I said, other than sports, I rarely watch TV.

I still disagree that it is as bad as these studies make it out to be. I don’t agree with some of the words being defined as profane. Aside from that we generally agree here.

I still think that if a pure, clean family hour was so important, or in such great demand, then the nielsen ratings would somehow reflect this. Or at least one network would catch on and have the cleanest, most family friendly hour on television and run away with the ratings.

Either way I agree that there isn’t a true family hour anymore. You see that, ZEB, I’m agreeing with you(somewhat).

My disagreemnet with you comes after family hour; after 9 pm Eastern and Pacific, 8 pm Mountain and Central. I see no problem airing adult oriented shows after family hour is over. This is why I see no problem with Desperate Housewives airing at 9 pm; family hour is over. Yeah, I get it; this is still prime time, you don’t need to post another showing of prime time’s hours; I know.

As far as Desperate Housewives being the most popular show with 9-12 year-olds( I did ask where you got this, I couldn’t find the breakdown by age groups anywhere), I agree. That’s not right. But, it is after family hour. And these kids’ parnets are letting them watch it.

I see this as a parental problem, not a problem with television. If these kids have parents allowing them to watch the show in the first place, do you think pushing it back an hour would stop this? I don’t. I see the type of parent that allows their 9-12 year old to watch Desperate Housewives as the same kind that gives no set bedtime. Or has a bedtime, but doesn’t enforce it. Or perhaps they let their kids have televisions in their room and watch whatever they want, unmonitored.

So that’s my stance. Clean up family hour; I’m all for it. Although, I don’t think it is an emergency. There is a lot of clean, family shows out there, and parnets have more choices than ever. But if you want the networks to clean up TV from 8-9 East. and Pac/7-8 Moun. ad Cen., I have no problem at all with that.

But that’s it. If it airs after family hour, it becomes parental responsibility.

maloneted:

My original assertion is that “prime time” is far more adult oriented than it should be (anyone could have easily read that in any of my first several posts). That means that Desperate Housewives should be on at 10pm not 9pm. If they made just that one tiny change the 9-12 year olds who are watching would probably drop dramatically!

Many give an excuse relative to the nielsen ratings, “if people didn’t want it then it wouldn’t be on.” That’s true, however that can be said about anything that might not be all that “healthy”. For example, vehicular speeds are limited by law, I always want to drive over the limit. Does that mean it’s good? There is a place for regulation. That place usually enters just after the time that self-regulation ends.

If you take the position (which you have not done but others like professor have) that it’s all up to the parents, it’s no one else’s concern then what’s to stop the airing of hardcore pornography on network TV during prime time? You and I both know it would have an audience. It might have a very large audience. If it had a large audience would that then mean that it is appropriate programming for that time period? Furthermore, if we did it for an entire season a selfish young male might just decide that it’s their right to watch it!

Now let me ask you this: what would be wrong with airing hardcore porno during network prime time, if it’s after the family hour? Please tell me what sort of an impact you think this would have on our children. I would very much like to read your thoughts on this.

There is no question that parents have to have the final say. However, I don’t think that our current system sets parents up to succeed. In fact, one could argue that they set parents up to fail. The job grows more difficult with every generation. Just as the programming has grown more adult oriented on network TV during prime time!

Dang ZEB -

That one post you had rivals BB’s for length.