[quote]Mufasa wrote:
Iraq…
I heard the sandstorms were great for the skin…
Mufasa[/quote]
The weather is great, wish you were here.
I all ready did, from England to Canada. Don’t need a gun up here, unless you hunt. Some of the best pot in the world. Lots of isolated places to explore.
We’re low key and enjoy flying under the radar. This is a beautiful country, where you are free to live your life your way. You do have to like snow however. Lots of snow, and really cold weather, fucking freezing actually.
We’re a friendly bunch though and we really love to drink beer. Plus we have the best female hockey team in the world, period! The guy are great as well, but thats expected.
I’m not a big fan of Canada. Calgary was the best place to live tax-wise, but the mayor totally ruined that.
Right now I’m interested in Hong Kong. It has the most free economy, a low rate of unemployment, is one of the safest cities in the world, and has good weather.
The downsides are that I would probably need an MBA to make the same amount of money I could make here with undergrad - at least in Alberta’s current economy.
I would also have to learn Cantonese, which isn’t offered at my university so I would have to learn it on my own. And from what I’ve read, it is hard for a white person to be socially accepted in HK. I would also have an issue being so close to Communist China.
[quote]hoosegow wrote:
Not to get into a political discussion of what is wrong or right with the USA, but if I were to immigrate, for whatever reason, from this country where should I go?
I want low taxes, small government and the freedoms that were granted to us by our forefathers. And when I say us, I am not discounting the unequal rights and injustices minorities had fight against in this country for years.
Is there a country left that doesn’t oppress the freedom of all people and people can be as successful as their talents will allow them? Oh yah, the right to bare arms is important as well.[/quote]
If you want bare arms then has to be somewhere warm otherwise you will get cold.
Also, you can’t im[m]igrate from a country only to one. You would need to emigrate.
Piss taking aside though, really depends what you see as being the rights that are important to you and how much money you have.
If you want the right to have a gun for self defence and to be left alone by your government, India might be a good option (also has good weather for the most part and great food.)
Switzerland will insist that you have a gun in your home, however they are not all that on individual freedoms.
Other than that, pretty much every other country that is not currently experiencing a war will insist that you either don’t have a gun or only for hunting.
Could people be more specific
Australia has a control freak government? What the? What do you mean? Are you talking about gun control? I am curious what people think is the Oz gov. being over controlling.
Could people post what is important to them/not important when they say which countries they like/do not like - be more specific than “controlling”
Most free economies latest raking was Hong Kong, Singapore, Australia. Oz has a lot of pain in the ass business rules and regulations though.
Amount of tax is irrelevant. What matters is how much money you end up with and what that currency is worth on the world markets.
Example: UK tax, not so bad. Then pound fell 30% vs the Euro. So now my pounds are worth 30% less - it is like getting a 30% increase in taxation. Not just on income, but on all my savings and cash. And the value of house, furniture, everything. EVERYTHING. So tell me again how tax is the most important issue when finding a place to live, because you think your taxes are low, but they are the highest in the world if it is all crashing down.
Margarhe,
Agreed on the tax thing. What is more important is the difference between potential net pay and living expenses.
I was earning 10x as much in the UK as in Mexico (before the crash of the £) and I have a better quality of life and more disposable income in Mexico.
Yeah Cockney it is a tricky one. I have never been to Mexico, I would not mind visiting it but can’t imagine living there, though.
Specifically because I think it would be
- generally more dangerous than UK / Oz :too old to care much for danger, by danger I also mean being stuffed around by dodgy workings of the place
- too hot, prob. too cold too
- not great on the language
- not sure what I would do there
- don’t think wife could work there either
- not central to the kind of travel I want to do (although I would not mind exploring the area one day)
[quote]Magarhe wrote:
Specifically because I think it would be
- generally more dangerous than UK / Oz :too old to care much for danger, by danger I also mean being stuffed around by dodgy workings of the place
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Depends where you are but in general probably you are right. I actually feel safer on the streets here in Leon than I did in London but you do have to be aware.
Also, the bureaucracy can be a pain.
Again, depends where you are, where I live the climate is pretty good all year round, other areas get crazy hot though through the summer months.
Only took me 3 months to be able to survive, also plenty of people here that speak English.
For most people it is a case of teaching English until you spot an opportunity doing what you are experienced in, that’s what happened to me. It can be hard to get into a company but once you are in a corporate type company a british degree and work experience is seen as being really desireable.
One problem that foreigners can find here is that there is a glass ceiling in many companies that you cannot progress above unless you are part of the family of the owners. That’s why I work for a Blue Chip.
No problem there for me, my wife is from here!
I can really recommend visiting, the more I explore, the more I love this country and part of the world.
Where are you more interested in? Asia? Australasia?
Hungary.
Sandra Shine is from Hungary
If the girls in Hungary look like this… Count me in.
[quote]hoosegow wrote:
Not to get into a political discussion of what is wrong or right with the USA, but if I were to immigrate, for whatever reason, from this country where should I go? I want low taxes, small government and the freedoms that were granted to us by our forefathers. And when I say us, I am not discounting the unequal rights and injustices minorities had fight against in this country for years.
Is there a country left that doesn’t oppress the freedom of all people and people can be as successful as their talents will allow them? Oh yah, the right to bare arms is important as well.[/quote]
I grew up in India, Bahrain (Middle East) and Canada. I’ve been in the US for four year now, I’ve found home.
[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
estonia. One of the freeest nations in the world, and my ancestry traces back to there.[/quote]
I was in Finland about 10 years ago. There was a boat over to Estonia for the weekend. I passed because all the Fins said to get back to a hotel room by night fall. Dangerous place then. Hope that’s changed.
Estonia has a boom in IT work, I hear.
Finland, Estonia and Hungary have ancient roots, in language and probably are branches of a root tribe.
Hungarian women, quite a lot are good looking, many stars both male and female are hungarian. Tony Curtis, for example, and his daughter Jamie Lee (is half at least).
Hungary is a nice place but gets very hot and very cold, they have a lot of debt, in Euros, which is bad because the Forint is not doing so well, a lot of things there are foreign owned. 70% of people live on farms. The small towns are lovely, but small … the traffic is terrible. Things are generally cheap. People are friendly but only if you can get through the language barrier and initial apparent gruffness.
Food is great but heavy on the lard and meat. They only recently invented a word for “vegetarian”. Food is excellent, fresh produce abundant, quality meat etc… the butchers there sell things like trachea, animal heads etc…
I definetely recommend it as a holiday destination, also, they have a massive, warm, freshwater lake, many many hot springs/spas and baths in the turkish style.
In order:
- Switzerland
- Canada
- Australia
- Sweden
I figure by the time freedom and democracy collapses in the US, Switzerland, Canada, and Australia I’d really look forward to getting paid to do nothing.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Ren wrote:
hhmmm…good luck. as someone who emigrated TO the States, I couldn’t imagining relocating permanently out of the country at this point.
Now, on the other hand, I would love to spend a year or 2 living in another country with a different culture and language, but I would definitely come back to the USA.
And for those who said Australia, that government is probably worse than ours in regards to the issues that hoosegow mentioned, government mandated firewall anyone?
Ren, where in Ohio are you?[/quote]
been in Columbus 9 years now.
born in India, moved to Canada 3 years ago
really wanted to end up in Switzerland/France or India
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with a short hiatus in Japan