Where Were You 9/11/01?

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[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]idaho wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:
I was working as plane dispatcher at the time. I was actually on the phone right before the attacks happened trying to help some putz guide his plane to a safe landing. He barely spoke a word of english and I swear he must have been mixing up 99% of what I was telling him to do, so I gave up and ended the call on him.

2 minutes later, BAM, North tower gets hit.

I never found out what happened to that guy I was on the phone with, but I got fired the next day and honestly, for the life of me I still can’t figure out why. [/quote]

Hahaha. That’s hilariously fucked up.

It’s all right because you’re Canadian. Tell a joke like that here and even now 12 years later people will look at you with a vague expression of horrified distaste. “Oh my gawd how can you joke about that? That’s so insensitive.”[/quote]

No, its not funny, and, no, its not alright to joke about it. I lost a brother on that day. [/quote]

There ya go, Ryuu. See what I mean?

Idaho, I’m very sorry you lost your brother.

That said, Ryuu’s post was funny. Tasteless and insensitive maybe, but a lot of funny jokes are. It was like the Asiana Airlines crash that someone had erroneously (and jokingly) reported the pilots’ names as “Sum Ting Wong”, “Wi Tu Lo”, “Ho Lee Fuk” and “Bang Ding Ow”. This was racist, offensive, insensitive to anyone with a family member aboard that airliner, and irresponsible journalism.

It was also funny as fuck.

Life is tragedy, and life is comedy. All too soon, you will die, like everyone who has ever walked this planet, and everyone who ever will. Laugh at life, tragedy and all, or it will laugh at you.
[/quote]

Attached is another COMPLETELY TASTELESS example I saw on Tumblr yesterday. I hesitated to even attach it because it’s complete garbage, but a picture is worth a 1,000 words right.

The thing is some 12 year old Japanese kid probably put it together. I’d expect grown men and women to have a bit more common sense.
[/quote]

Gee mister, I’m real sorry I chapped your asshole. [/quote]

You are an inconsiderate prick.
[/quote]

Sure, but let’s get real for a minute. 3000 Americans died 12 years ago and you don’t want anyone joking about it. Since then, you’ve picked off about 185,000 Iraqis, 134,000 of which were civilians, and nobody cares (me included).

We’ve all got fuckin’ problems. Suck it up, buttercup. [/quote]

No, I don’t care what you joke about, but there is a time and place for everything. Joking about 9/11 in a thread to remember those that died is in poor taste.

[/quote]

And when it comes down to it, thats what matters?

That it is all in good taste?[/quote]

In this thread, yes. On the world stage or in reference to Iraq no.

[/quote]

Yeah, you’re right. Fuck the Iraqis.
[/quote]
You should probably learn to read.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]idaho wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:
I was working as plane dispatcher at the time. I was actually on the phone right before the attacks happened trying to help some putz guide his plane to a safe landing. He barely spoke a word of english and I swear he must have been mixing up 99% of what I was telling him to do, so I gave up and ended the call on him.

2 minutes later, BAM, North tower gets hit.

I never found out what happened to that guy I was on the phone with, but I got fired the next day and honestly, for the life of me I still can’t figure out why. [/quote]

Hahaha. That’s hilariously fucked up.

It’s all right because you’re Canadian. Tell a joke like that here and even now 12 years later people will look at you with a vague expression of horrified distaste. “Oh my gawd how can you joke about that? That’s so insensitive.”[/quote]

No, its not funny, and, no, its not alright to joke about it. I lost a brother on that day. [/quote]

There ya go, Ryuu. See what I mean?

Idaho, I’m very sorry you lost your brother.

That said, Ryuu’s post was funny. Tasteless and insensitive maybe, but a lot of funny jokes are. It was like the Asiana Airlines crash that someone had erroneously (and jokingly) reported the pilots’ names as “Sum Ting Wong”, “Wi Tu Lo”, “Ho Lee Fuk” and “Bang Ding Ow”. This was racist, offensive, insensitive to anyone with a family member aboard that airliner, and irresponsible journalism.

It was also funny as fuck.

Life is tragedy, and life is comedy. All too soon, you will die, like everyone who has ever walked this planet, and everyone who ever will. Laugh at life, tragedy and all, or it will laugh at you.
[/quote]

Attached is another COMPLETELY TASTELESS example I saw on Tumblr yesterday. I hesitated to even attach it because it’s complete garbage, but a picture is worth a 1,000 words right.

The thing is some 12 year old Japanese kid probably put it together. I’d expect grown men and women to have a bit more common sense.
[/quote]

Gee mister, I’m real sorry I chapped your asshole. [/quote]

You are an inconsiderate prick.
[/quote]

Sure, but let’s get real for a minute. 3000 Americans died 12 years ago and you don’t want anyone joking about it. Since then, you’ve picked off about 185,000 Iraqis, 134,000 of which were civilians, and nobody cares (me included).

We’ve all got fuckin’ problems. Suck it up, buttercup. [/quote]

No, I don’t care what you joke about, but there is a time and place for everything. Joking about 9/11 in a thread to remember those that died is in poor taste.

[/quote]

And when it comes down to it, thats what matters?

That it is all in good taste?[/quote]

In this thread, yes. On the world stage or in reference to Iraq no.

[/quote]

I get that…somewhat…but people thinking that the loss of one relative is a terrible tragedy (which it is) while the US is the Grim Reaper of the Middle East…

Oy vey…

Many, many people mourning their losses and nobody gives a shit…

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]idaho wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:
I was working as plane dispatcher at the time. I was actually on the phone right before the attacks happened trying to help some putz guide his plane to a safe landing. He barely spoke a word of english and I swear he must have been mixing up 99% of what I was telling him to do, so I gave up and ended the call on him.

2 minutes later, BAM, North tower gets hit.

I never found out what happened to that guy I was on the phone with, but I got fired the next day and honestly, for the life of me I still can’t figure out why. [/quote]

Hahaha. That’s hilariously fucked up.

It’s all right because you’re Canadian. Tell a joke like that here and even now 12 years later people will look at you with a vague expression of horrified distaste. “Oh my gawd how can you joke about that? That’s so insensitive.”[/quote]

No, its not funny, and, no, its not alright to joke about it. I lost a brother on that day. [/quote]

There ya go, Ryuu. See what I mean?

Idaho, I’m very sorry you lost your brother.

That said, Ryuu’s post was funny. Tasteless and insensitive maybe, but a lot of funny jokes are. It was like the Asiana Airlines crash that someone had erroneously (and jokingly) reported the pilots’ names as “Sum Ting Wong”, “Wi Tu Lo”, “Ho Lee Fuk” and “Bang Ding Ow”. This was racist, offensive, insensitive to anyone with a family member aboard that airliner, and irresponsible journalism.

It was also funny as fuck.

Life is tragedy, and life is comedy. All too soon, you will die, like everyone who has ever walked this planet, and everyone who ever will. Laugh at life, tragedy and all, or it will laugh at you.
[/quote]

Attached is another COMPLETELY TASTELESS example I saw on Tumblr yesterday. I hesitated to even attach it because it’s complete garbage, but a picture is worth a 1,000 words right.

The thing is some 12 year old Japanese kid probably put it together. I’d expect grown men and women to have a bit more common sense.
[/quote]

Gee mister, I’m real sorry I chapped your asshole. [/quote]

You are an inconsiderate prick.
[/quote]

Sure, but let’s get real for a minute. 3000 Americans died 12 years ago and you don’t want anyone joking about it. Since then, you’ve picked off about 185,000 Iraqis, 134,000 of which were civilians, and nobody cares (me included).

We’ve all got fuckin’ problems. Suck it up, buttercup. [/quote]

No, I don’t care what you joke about, but there is a time and place for everything. Joking about 9/11 in a thread to remember those that died is in poor taste.

[/quote]

And when it comes down to it, thats what matters?

That it is all in good taste?[/quote]

In this thread, yes. On the world stage or in reference to Iraq no.

[/quote]

I get that…somewhat…but people thinking that the loss of one relative is a terrible tragedy (which it is) while the US is the Grim Reaper of the Middle East…

Oy vey…

Many, many people mourning their losses and nobody gives a shit…
[/quote]

Ya, that’s not what this thread was for. You or what’s his face can start another thread about it. I’m sure plenty of people would participate.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]idaho wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:
I was working as plane dispatcher at the time. I was actually on the phone right before the attacks happened trying to help some putz guide his plane to a safe landing. He barely spoke a word of english and I swear he must have been mixing up 99% of what I was telling him to do, so I gave up and ended the call on him.

2 minutes later, BAM, North tower gets hit.

I never found out what happened to that guy I was on the phone with, but I got fired the next day and honestly, for the life of me I still can’t figure out why. [/quote]

Hahaha. That’s hilariously fucked up.

It’s all right because you’re Canadian. Tell a joke like that here and even now 12 years later people will look at you with a vague expression of horrified distaste. “Oh my gawd how can you joke about that? That’s so insensitive.”[/quote]

No, its not funny, and, no, its not alright to joke about it. I lost a brother on that day. [/quote]

There ya go, Ryuu. See what I mean?

Idaho, I’m very sorry you lost your brother.

That said, Ryuu’s post was funny. Tasteless and insensitive maybe, but a lot of funny jokes are. It was like the Asiana Airlines crash that someone had erroneously (and jokingly) reported the pilots’ names as “Sum Ting Wong”, “Wi Tu Lo”, “Ho Lee Fuk” and “Bang Ding Ow”. This was racist, offensive, insensitive to anyone with a family member aboard that airliner, and irresponsible journalism.

It was also funny as fuck.

Life is tragedy, and life is comedy. All too soon, you will die, like everyone who has ever walked this planet, and everyone who ever will. Laugh at life, tragedy and all, or it will laugh at you.
[/quote]

Attached is another COMPLETELY TASTELESS example I saw on Tumblr yesterday. I hesitated to even attach it because it’s complete garbage, but a picture is worth a 1,000 words right.

The thing is some 12 year old Japanese kid probably put it together. I’d expect grown men and women to have a bit more common sense.
[/quote]

Gee mister, I’m real sorry I chapped your asshole. [/quote]

You are an inconsiderate prick.
[/quote]

Sure, but let’s get real for a minute. 3000 Americans died 12 years ago and you don’t want anyone joking about it. Since then, you’ve picked off about 185,000 Iraqis, 134,000 of which were civilians, and nobody cares (me included).

We’ve all got fuckin’ problems. Suck it up, buttercup. [/quote]

No, I don’t care what you joke about, but there is a time and place for everything. Joking about 9/11 in a thread to remember those that died is in poor taste.

[/quote]

And when it comes down to it, thats what matters?

That it is all in good taste?[/quote]

In this thread, yes. On the world stage or in reference to Iraq no.

[/quote]

I get that…somewhat…but people thinking that the loss of one relative is a terrible tragedy (which it is) while the US is the Grim Reaper of the Middle East…

Oy vey…

Many, many people mourning their losses and nobody gives a shit…
[/quote]

Ya, that’s not what this thread was for. You or what’s his face can start another thread about it. I’m sure plenty of people would participate.[/quote]

Yeah, thats not how a public forum works.

Bad people say bad things on public forums.

Unless you are on jezebel.com, then you only hear pleaant things because they ban the rest.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]idaho wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:
I was working as plane dispatcher at the time. I was actually on the phone right before the attacks happened trying to help some putz guide his plane to a safe landing. He barely spoke a word of english and I swear he must have been mixing up 99% of what I was telling him to do, so I gave up and ended the call on him.

2 minutes later, BAM, North tower gets hit.

I never found out what happened to that guy I was on the phone with, but I got fired the next day and honestly, for the life of me I still can’t figure out why. [/quote]

Hahaha. That’s hilariously fucked up.

It’s all right because you’re Canadian. Tell a joke like that here and even now 12 years later people will look at you with a vague expression of horrified distaste. “Oh my gawd how can you joke about that? That’s so insensitive.”[/quote]

No, its not funny, and, no, its not alright to joke about it. I lost a brother on that day. [/quote]

There ya go, Ryuu. See what I mean?

Idaho, I’m very sorry you lost your brother.

That said, Ryuu’s post was funny. Tasteless and insensitive maybe, but a lot of funny jokes are. It was like the Asiana Airlines crash that someone had erroneously (and jokingly) reported the pilots’ names as “Sum Ting Wong”, “Wi Tu Lo”, “Ho Lee Fuk” and “Bang Ding Ow”. This was racist, offensive, insensitive to anyone with a family member aboard that airliner, and irresponsible journalism.

It was also funny as fuck.

Life is tragedy, and life is comedy. All too soon, you will die, like everyone who has ever walked this planet, and everyone who ever will. Laugh at life, tragedy and all, or it will laugh at you.
[/quote]

Attached is another COMPLETELY TASTELESS example I saw on Tumblr yesterday. I hesitated to even attach it because it’s complete garbage, but a picture is worth a 1,000 words right.

The thing is some 12 year old Japanese kid probably put it together. I’d expect grown men and women to have a bit more common sense.
[/quote]

Gee mister, I’m real sorry I chapped your asshole. [/quote]

You are an inconsiderate prick.
[/quote]

Sure, but let’s get real for a minute. 3000 Americans died 12 years ago and you don’t want anyone joking about it. Since then, you’ve picked off about 185,000 Iraqis, 134,000 of which were civilians, and nobody cares (me included).

We’ve all got fuckin’ problems. Suck it up, buttercup. [/quote]

No, I don’t care what you joke about, but there is a time and place for everything. Joking about 9/11 in a thread to remember those that died is in poor taste.

[/quote]

And when it comes down to it, thats what matters?

That it is all in good taste?[/quote]

In this thread, yes. On the world stage or in reference to Iraq no.

[/quote]

Yeah, you’re right. Fuck the Iraqis.
[/quote]
You should probably learn to read. [/quote]

Good taste is all the matters?

Not in reference to Iraq.

k

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I was at the end of my 9th grade social studies class with Mrs. Ray.

Mrs. Ray was about the bustiest, sexiest teacher I have had to this day. One day her titty actually popped out of her low cut shirt when she was leaning over someones desk. Best day of my life. She pulled out a little TV Radio from somewhere and we all stopped and were watching when the bell rang.

I was walking through the hall on my way to my AP English class, everyone was abuzz in the halls, like someone kicked an any hill.

I forget my English teachers name, something with an R. She was a rather stern proctor, but she took a shine to me after I wrote a report on Ayn Rands Atlas Shrugged, which was one of her favorites.

We were all electric, clamoring to turn on the TV or Radio so we could get the news, but she refused, and made us sit through class as usual. I’ll never forget what she said.

She said that the moment we stop what we are doing, to pause and gawk, to worry and be fearful, then the terrorists have succeeded in their efforts in demanding attention and disrupting our normal lives.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]idaho wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:
I was working as plane dispatcher at the time. I was actually on the phone right before the attacks happened trying to help some putz guide his plane to a safe landing. He barely spoke a word of english and I swear he must have been mixing up 99% of what I was telling him to do, so I gave up and ended the call on him.

2 minutes later, BAM, North tower gets hit.

I never found out what happened to that guy I was on the phone with, but I got fired the next day and honestly, for the life of me I still can’t figure out why. [/quote]

Hahaha. That’s hilariously fucked up.

It’s all right because you’re Canadian. Tell a joke like that here and even now 12 years later people will look at you with a vague expression of horrified distaste. “Oh my gawd how can you joke about that? That’s so insensitive.”[/quote]

No, its not funny, and, no, its not alright to joke about it. I lost a brother on that day. [/quote]

There ya go, Ryuu. See what I mean?

Idaho, I’m very sorry you lost your brother.

That said, Ryuu’s post was funny. Tasteless and insensitive maybe, but a lot of funny jokes are. It was like the Asiana Airlines crash that someone had erroneously (and jokingly) reported the pilots’ names as “Sum Ting Wong”, “Wi Tu Lo”, “Ho Lee Fuk” and “Bang Ding Ow”. This was racist, offensive, insensitive to anyone with a family member aboard that airliner, and irresponsible journalism.

It was also funny as fuck.

Life is tragedy, and life is comedy. All too soon, you will die, like everyone who has ever walked this planet, and everyone who ever will. Laugh at life, tragedy and all, or it will laugh at you.
[/quote]

Attached is another COMPLETELY TASTELESS example I saw on Tumblr yesterday. I hesitated to even attach it because it’s complete garbage, but a picture is worth a 1,000 words right.

The thing is some 12 year old Japanese kid probably put it together. I’d expect grown men and women to have a bit more common sense.
[/quote]

Gee mister, I’m real sorry I chapped your asshole. [/quote]

You are an inconsiderate prick.
[/quote]

Sure, but let’s get real for a minute. 3000 Americans died 12 years ago and you don’t want anyone joking about it. Since then, you’ve picked off about 185,000 Iraqis, 134,000 of which were civilians, and nobody cares (me included).

We’ve all got fuckin’ problems. Suck it up, buttercup. [/quote]

No, I don’t care what you joke about, but there is a time and place for everything. Joking about 9/11 in a thread to remember those that died is in poor taste.

[/quote]

And when it comes down to it, thats what matters?

That it is all in good taste?[/quote]

In this thread, yes. On the world stage or in reference to Iraq no.

[/quote]

I get that…somewhat…but people thinking that the loss of one relative is a terrible tragedy (which it is) while the US is the Grim Reaper of the Middle East…

Oy vey…

Many, many people mourning their losses and nobody gives a shit…
[/quote]

Ya, that’s not what this thread was for. You or what’s his face can start another thread about it. I’m sure plenty of people would participate.[/quote]

Yeah, thats not how a public forum works.

Bad people say bad things on public forums.

Unless you are on jezebel.com, then you only hear pleaant things because they ban the rest.

[/quote]

Yes I know you can be an asshole on the internet especially when no one knows who you are. Figured that out in 90s.

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[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]idaho wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:
I was working as plane dispatcher at the time. I was actually on the phone right before the attacks happened trying to help some putz guide his plane to a safe landing. He barely spoke a word of english and I swear he must have been mixing up 99% of what I was telling him to do, so I gave up and ended the call on him.

2 minutes later, BAM, North tower gets hit.

I never found out what happened to that guy I was on the phone with, but I got fired the next day and honestly, for the life of me I still can’t figure out why. [/quote]

Hahaha. That’s hilariously fucked up.

It’s all right because you’re Canadian. Tell a joke like that here and even now 12 years later people will look at you with a vague expression of horrified distaste. “Oh my gawd how can you joke about that? That’s so insensitive.”[/quote]

No, its not funny, and, no, its not alright to joke about it. I lost a brother on that day. [/quote]

There ya go, Ryuu. See what I mean?

Idaho, I’m very sorry you lost your brother.

That said, Ryuu’s post was funny. Tasteless and insensitive maybe, but a lot of funny jokes are. It was like the Asiana Airlines crash that someone had erroneously (and jokingly) reported the pilots’ names as “Sum Ting Wong”, “Wi Tu Lo”, “Ho Lee Fuk” and “Bang Ding Ow”. This was racist, offensive, insensitive to anyone with a family member aboard that airliner, and irresponsible journalism.

It was also funny as fuck.

Life is tragedy, and life is comedy. All too soon, you will die, like everyone who has ever walked this planet, and everyone who ever will. Laugh at life, tragedy and all, or it will laugh at you.
[/quote]

Attached is another COMPLETELY TASTELESS example I saw on Tumblr yesterday. I hesitated to even attach it because it’s complete garbage, but a picture is worth a 1,000 words right.

The thing is some 12 year old Japanese kid probably put it together. I’d expect grown men and women to have a bit more common sense.
[/quote]

Gee mister, I’m real sorry I chapped your asshole. [/quote]

You are an inconsiderate prick.
[/quote]

Sure, but let’s get real for a minute. 3000 Americans died 12 years ago and you don’t want anyone joking about it. Since then, you’ve picked off about 185,000 Iraqis, 134,000 of which were civilians, and nobody cares (me included).

We’ve all got fuckin’ problems. Suck it up, buttercup. [/quote]

No, I don’t care what you joke about, but there is a time and place for everything. Joking about 9/11 in a thread to remember those that died is in poor taste.

[/quote]

And when it comes down to it, thats what matters?

That it is all in good taste?[/quote]

In this thread, yes. On the world stage or in reference to Iraq no.

[/quote]

Yeah, you’re right. Fuck the Iraqis.
[/quote]
You should probably learn to read. [/quote]

Good taste is all the matters?

Not in reference to Iraq.

k

[/quote]

Ya, nope try again. At 20 you’d think one could read.

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Poor Stu, tries to make a good thread and folks ruin it… too bad, so sad.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
No, I don’t care what you joke about, but there is a time and place for everything. Joking about 9/11 in a thread to remember those that died is in poor taste.
[/quote]

True… if that’s why this thread were about.

It’s actually a thread in which we remember what WE, the people who for one reason or another did NOT die on that day, were doing instead of getting dead.

And I dont think the day, context or amount of years separating the joke from the event matter that much. For some people, it will always be “too soon” to talk about September Eleventh with anything but a sad face.

I got a chuckle out of Ryuu’s post. In it, he does not insult anyone, nor does he make light of the deaths of anyone…except the dumbass pilot who couldn’t understand English. It was facetiously self-deprecating, implying that the whole incident was caused by him, an incompetent flight dispatcher, who isn’t even aware, 12 years after the fact, that it was his fault.

I’m sorry. That’s funny.

2,970 people (26 of them Canadian nationals, by the way) dying is NOT funny.

Nearly a hundred people on the ground getting crushed to death by fat stockbrokers jumping out of 80-story windows and landing on them… DEFINITELY not funny.

But a facetious story about a dumb pilot and an oblivious flight dispatcher?

Funny.

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
No, I don’t care what you joke about, but there is a time and place for everything. Joking about 9/11 in a thread to remember those that died is in poor taste.
[/quote]

True… if that’s why this thread were about.

It’s actually a thread in which we remember what WE, the people who for one reason or another did NOT die on that day, were doing instead of getting dead.

And I dont think the day, context or amount of years separating the joke from the event matter that much. For some people, it will always be “too soon” to talk about September Eleventh with anything but a sad face.

I got a chuckle out of Ryuu’s post. In it, he does not insult anyone, nor does he make light of the deaths of anyone…except the dumbass pilot who couldn’t understand English. It was facetiously self-deprecating, implying that the whole incident was caused by him, an incompetent flight dispatcher, who isn’t even aware, 12 years after the fact, that it was his fault.

I’m sorry. That’s funny.

2,970 people (26 of them Canadian nationals, by the way) dying is NOT funny.

Nearly a hundred people on the ground getting crushed to death by fat stockbrokers jumping out of 80-story windows and landing on them… DEFINITELY not funny.

But a facetious story about a dumb pilot and an oblivious flight dispatcher?

Funny.

[/quote]

Exactly. Perfectly put.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]idaho wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:
I was working as plane dispatcher at the time. I was actually on the phone right before the attacks happened trying to help some putz guide his plane to a safe landing. He barely spoke a word of english and I swear he must have been mixing up 99% of what I was telling him to do, so I gave up and ended the call on him.

2 minutes later, BAM, North tower gets hit.

I never found out what happened to that guy I was on the phone with, but I got fired the next day and honestly, for the life of me I still can’t figure out why. [/quote]

Hahaha. That’s hilariously fucked up.

It’s all right because you’re Canadian. Tell a joke like that here and even now 12 years later people will look at you with a vague expression of horrified distaste. “Oh my gawd how can you joke about that? That’s so insensitive.”[/quote]

No, its not funny, and, no, its not alright to joke about it. I lost a brother on that day. [/quote]

There ya go, Ryuu. See what I mean?

Idaho, I’m very sorry you lost your brother.

That said, Ryuu’s post was funny. Tasteless and insensitive maybe, but a lot of funny jokes are. It was like the Asiana Airlines crash that someone had erroneously (and jokingly) reported the pilots’ names as “Sum Ting Wong”, “Wi Tu Lo”, “Ho Lee Fuk” and “Bang Ding Ow”. This was racist, offensive, insensitive to anyone with a family member aboard that airliner, and irresponsible journalism.

It was also funny as fuck.

Life is tragedy, and life is comedy. All too soon, you will die, like everyone who has ever walked this planet, and everyone who ever will. Laugh at life, tragedy and all, or it will laugh at you.
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Attached is another COMPLETELY TASTELESS example I saw on Tumblr yesterday. I hesitated to even attach it because it’s complete garbage, but a picture is worth a 1,000 words right.

The thing is some 12 year old Japanese kid probably put it together. I’d expect grown men and women to have a bit more common sense.
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Gee mister, I’m real sorry I chapped your asshole. [/quote]

You are an inconsiderate prick.
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Sure, but let’s get real for a minute. 3000 Americans died 12 years ago and you don’t want anyone joking about it. Since then, you’ve picked off about 185,000 Iraqis, 134,000 of which were civilians, and nobody cares (me included).

We’ve all got fuckin’ problems. Suck it up, buttercup. [/quote]

No, I don’t care what you joke about, but there is a time and place for everything. Joking about 9/11 in a thread to remember those that died is in poor taste.

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And when it comes down to it, thats what matters?

That it is all in good taste?[/quote]

In this thread, yes. On the world stage or in reference to Iraq no.

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Yeah, you’re right. Fuck the Iraqis.
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You should probably learn to read. [/quote]

Good taste is all the matters?

Not in reference to Iraq.

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Ya, nope try again. At 20 you’d think one could read. [/quote]

Well, I guess I’m illiterate. It looks like you’re saying good taste matters in this thread, but not “on the world stage” (whatever the fuck that means) or in reference to Iraq, but whatever.

By all means, don’t let me get in the way of your perpetual mourning. NVR FGT, amirite?

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
A bomb is certainly a different story. It all comes down to how much freedom we want to surrender for security. I believe we’ve gone too far and Boston is a prime example of this.

We could go back and forth about air travel. I’d argue against many of the TSA measure, but at the end of the day there are much softer targets than air planes anyway. [/quote]

I agree. I am iffy on the full-body scan- I think a lot of the concerns are just over-blown, people taking naked pictures of you to jack off? Really?-but the manhunt following the Boston Marathon bombing was just insane.

I understand that person committed a horrible act in the middle of what is effectively a city’s holiday of sorts. That doesn’t mean that the police suddenly get the right to barge into people’s houses without search warrants.

But, much more importantly, it doesn’t mean that you have to be called some horrible shit if you refuse them entry.

I’m not familiar, but if the home-owner refused entry, but the police went in anyways, couldn’t the home-owners use the law?

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Why do people make walls of quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes… really?

NVR FGT = Nervous Virgin Rectums, Flamers Gonna Target?

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I was in my AP Econ class, my senior year of high school, when the first plane crashed. I thought it was an accident; hell, I’d crashed my Cessna into the Sears Tower many times in Microsoft Flight Simulator. I didn’t make much of it, but we had TVs in every classroom, and in the halls, all tuned to the news. I think this is the first time they ever served any purpose.

I was in French class when the second plane hit. I’m not sure where I was when the towers actually fell.

I really didn’t know what to make of it at the time. NYC wasn’t something that really existed to me outside of movies. A good friend of mine’s dad was in the WTC earlier that day for a meeting, and my dad was in Newark, watching everything.

It’s not like terrorist attacks and bombings hadn’t happened before. I was around bomb-sniffing dogs in the Paris Metro, and saw the gendarmes at work during the riots at the Tunisian embassy in Paris. Even in the US, there was Oklahoma City, the Unabomber, Flight 800 [arguably just an explosion, but still, air safety].

I was actually surprised at the extreme reaction in the US… the creation of Homeland Security (which I still think is a stupid name; why not Motherland/Fatherland?), and TSA’s complete disruption of the flying experience. I was used to walking to the gate to meet my dad after he came back from business trips.

It was farcical back then – the pendulum swinging way too far in the opposite direction, when anyone with half a brain could see how little they were actually capable of doing. There were so many possible targets, and this was the one we focused on defending?

But most of what TSA does is a farce anyway. It provides an illusion of security, but the real security happens in the background – always has, and always will. TSA is like the USA Today approach to safety, dumbed down for the average American.

I mean, really, “liquids have to be in containers no larger than 3 ounces and they all must fit in a clear quart size bag, and pulled out to be run separately through the xray scanner”? Try NOT doing that, and see if anyone cares. (They don’t.)

Security-wise, I’ve never had an illusion of privacy. I was like that long before 9/11; I studied computer viruses as a kid, and knew my way around most of the computer systems at the schools. I knew of Echelon by at least the late 90s, and playing with encryption tools since at least middle school. With a modem and a sound card, I was able to have encrypted “secure” phone calls with friends. Anything else was assumed to be bugged… plus, for less than $3 at radioshack, you could buy all the parts to tap anyone’s phone calls as-is.

What surprised me though were the other changes. That people could be detained without release, simply by claiming they were “terrorists”. That’s what scared me. Even back then, I’d known the KGB did that regularly, and I’d heard horror stories from friends who’d left Egypt, Romania, Russia and Ukraine about family members that just “disappeared”, sometimes to come back years later. I didn’t think we’d ever cross that line, but we did, and we did it so easily. Nobody seemed to bat an eye.

On the other hand, for the most part, nobody cares about you. With a few keystrokes they can read your mail, listen to your phone conversations, and generally know everything about you… but for the most part, nobody cares. Just don’t act out of line, and you’ll be fine.

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[quote]magick wrote:
I’m not familiar, but if the home-owner refused entry, but the police went in anyways, couldn’t the home-owners use the law?[/quote]

I’m pretty sure the law was on the police force’s side on this.

Pre-9/11, that would have been illegal. Post-9/11, we wrote a lot of laws on the books to make “illegal” searches and seizures legal, under certain extenuating circumstances.

And in this case, I wouldn’t be surprised if things were legally considered a national emergency, possibly with the police operating under Homeland Security’s authority. I haven’t dug into the details… but if that were the case, everything was probably entirely legal. It may not have even needed to be escalated that high for it to be legal.

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[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
Why do people make walls of quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes… really?

NVR FGT = Nervous Virgin Rectums, Flamers Gonna Target?[/quote]

I can’t be bothered to edit down quotes.

NVR FGT = never forget, but yours is pretty good too.

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NVR FGT= Nervously Vomiting Rhetoric Fosters Government Terrorism.

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
No, I don’t care what you joke about, but there is a time and place for everything. Joking about 9/11 in a thread to remember those that died is in poor taste.
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True… if that’s why this thread were about.

It’s actually a thread in which we remember what WE, the people who for one reason or another did NOT die on that day, were doing instead of getting dead.

And I dont think the day, context or amount of years separating the joke from the event matter that much. For some people, it will always be “too soon” to talk about September Eleventh with anything but a sad face.

I got a chuckle out of Ryuu’s post. In it, he does not insult anyone, nor does he make light of the deaths of anyone…except the dumbass pilot who couldn’t understand English. It was facetiously self-deprecating, implying that the whole incident was caused by him, an incompetent flight dispatcher, who isn’t even aware, 12 years after the fact, that it was his fault.

I’m sorry. That’s funny.

2,970 people (26 of them Canadian nationals, by the way) dying is NOT funny.

Nearly a hundred people on the ground getting crushed to death by fat stockbrokers jumping out of 80-story windows and landing on them… DEFINITELY not funny.

But a facetious story about a dumb pilot and an oblivious flight dispatcher?

Funny.
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Varq I think you misunderstand my position. I don’t care if you joke about 9/11, the holocaust, abortion, the crusades, whatever… What it boils down to is the situation. I don’t beleive it’s appropriate to joke about 9/11 in a thread that was created to remember that tragdy. This doesn’t change anything that has happened since, this doesn’t change the fact that a dialogue should be had about the validitiy of every war not just Iraq, and this doesn’t change the 1st amendment in anyway.

I don’t expect a 20 year old boy from another country to understand this, which is the only reason I said anything. Had this joke been posted in any of the 15 Iraq threads, the PWI joke thread, or the currrent joke thread in GAL I wouldn’t have said a word.

To me this is no different than joking about Hiroshima. Sure I joke about WWII from time to time, but when I actually visited Hiroshima I was as respectful as possible because what, 60 years later, people were still mourning.

That’s it, I thought it was in poor taste, and voiced that position. But like I said class is a dying thing.

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[quote]RyuuKyuzo wrote:
Well, I guess I’m illiterate. It looks like you’re saying good taste matters in this thread, but not “on the world stage” (whatever the fuck that means) or in reference to Iraq, but whatever.

By all means, don’t let me get in the way of your perpetual mourning. NVR FGT, amirite?[/quote]

I feel like you are being purposefully dense. All I was saying is that in a thread in remembrance of an event you should show some respect and be tasteful. Any other time joke/debate whatever you want.

I didn’t think it was that complicated. I was on my phone. I suppose I could have spelled it out better. Orion seemed to get it so I don’t know what your problem is.

I really hope you never live through a real tragedy (personal or otherwise) and have someone tell you to when to stop mourning.