Where Has Everyone Gone?

@Andrewgen_Receptors Will do man. I’ll shoot you an email this afternoon/evening, Sat. latest.

@Professor_Hulk Dude, I don’t think I even know what you wrote because I gotta be honest, I was just staring at that picture you posted…was that your wife or just some .jpg? I know you mentioned wife, but again, all your text kinda blurred away at the time… If wife, you sir are winning! Congrats. Ha, my TRT is definitely fixin me right up, all cylinders are firing!

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Thanks. That’s 100 percent my wife. She is a 10, no doubt.

I never want to trivialize another man’s struggles with erectile function because I experienced it with my ex wife and I know it is a very real hell. But the ex was a 6 at best.

Current wife is a hard 10 and I can’t even fathom having performance issues, even if I were taking 500mg nandrolone with no test and 1mg anastrozole every day. :rofl:

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Yes, for some reference ranges for some lab values only go into the 800’s. However I’ve never seen any medical literature, including that which comes with purchase of T medication listing anything but 300 to 1,200 ng/dl or 300 to 1000. During my first visit to my doctor he stated 300 to 1,000. So he accepts that some values for me in the 900s or low 1000s. So this is what I go by too.

We don’t know. And it’s highly unlikely variation or decline in the mid to high normal range can even be felt by anyone (obviously just an opinion/hunch of mine).

I am not sure but I have a suspicion there is something in the environment making us like this, but also much of this is likely due to the abominable health habits of millions of Americans.

I understand and I’m not trying to do mental masturbation. And again as some here know me, I don’t do e-beef, insult matches, or malicious criticism. And I don’t think you’re like that either. I’m just getting that out of the way for further conversation because we’ve never spoken before and we have or might in the future have opposing views (which I’m fine with).

I consider myself on this issue someone who cannot see how medical treatment can be based off a man’s perception, and it seems T is the only medication people treat as such. Like, where does it end? Let’s say you go to 160 and that’s not perceived as optimal. Do you then go to 180? 200?

What is an optimal level of confidence, erectile hardness, or lifting capability? How would a doctor deal with such perception, raise stuff up and down spending on what some guy thinks all this is?

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No AI on any of these.

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Dude i hate to sound like bossa.

But i legit want u to try e2 valerate.

Your free test is double the range and e2 is only 20.

Try it, u might be amazed.

Bud, you’ve been on it for three weeks and you’re already “band wagoning”. Just a suggestion to give your experiment more time before trying to convince others to do the same. I’ve already stated I think it a bad choice in the first place but I’ll leave it at that since you seem elated in your decision.

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Basically solved the problem i had for 5 years on test.

Guy has similar blood work as mine. Ie, lowish shbg, super high free t and low range estradiol.

Try it, it wont hurt,.it might finally solve his cock issues, as it did for me, that is worth alot.

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Understood. I’ll take a step back as @kazuya_mishima1 has been around long enough and is informed enough to make his own decisions.

I’m not recommending that anyone do anything here but…I do suspect the man’s erection/libido issues are due to low E2. Estrogen is not the devil in men. It is natural and necessary.

Not sure what one does though with E2 that low naturally. Just shows how everyone is different.

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So far lowering my dose has worked the best. As I described in a different thread, I don’t even think it’s anything direct with libido/erections, but more of calming me as a whole. As in lowering dose improves anxiety, sleep, blood pressure, etc which then in turn helps me as a whole with libido/erections included.

Curious to see what my E2 would be after a few months of 100-120mg per week split in 2.

Also guys I can’t explain the inconsistency in this blood work I was doing 100mg every 5 days but it was 1/2 inch needle to glute so maybe SQ?

Then there is this blood work when I first started on EOD dosing including HCG in where I let my E2 go higher, and I didn’t feel good back then but I was chronic vaping like a mofo to be fair:

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Same bro. The only time in my history I’ve had ED issues was upping Test too much and or playing with another compound. Never again… I feel so good on just plain moderate amount of Test Cyp.

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I wonder if it would be diff if we titrated up slowly. Like do a year on 80-100mg and increase year by year. Probably wouldn’t make a difference but maybe who knows. Maybe it would be different for me to get to 140mg per week in 4 years, starting from 100mg per week, rather than right away.

I wish I knew. I mean maybe? I do think that your body handles smaller jumps in hormones over time better than one huge hormonal swing.

I think its just a tolerance thing.

I used to feel weird af on 250.

These days 1200 no problem.

You’ve “solved” your problems numerous times on this site. Then, a few weeks later, you have the problem again and you’re searching for answers.

One day you were low test advocate. Then super high. Then it was super low E2. Now its high E2.

Listen to blshaw.

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I have never ever had this kind of stable libido. I have the SAME libido as when I was 13. I can get hard any time, I get aroused about 5000 times a day, I have EXTREME LIBIDO.

I went from ZERO to INSANE levels of sexdrive, I feel EXACTLY as the men who always reported insane libido on test, which i never understood.

Ive never “solved” my problems. Ive had better, and lower and nón existant, but NEVER like this, this is INSANE levels of sexdrive, let me tell you.

Listen to me and get ur problem fixed, or dont listen and keep looking, up to you.

TRY IT and you will most likely understand.

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Just make sure to keep us updated. Most of us are struggling.

Not trying to argue. I just want to point out to you that you may have a bias based on which threads you are interested in and read.

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Roadie, I might be able to say something useful here but I need some clarification as the level of testosterone (125mg for instance) would be hypogonadal. While it is the case that one’s testosterone levels would be in the hypogonadal range the last couple of days of a dosage (for instance, standard dosage per package insert maxes out at 200mg/ml at 2 ml every 2 weeks so last 5-7 days level would be expected to be near, at, and eventually, below 300 ng/dl) The level of estradiol, if I am reading your post correctly, would be difficult to explain on the bases of a HRT dosage of Testosterone Cypionate. What you appear to be describing would be a high level of estradiol in the presence of a low level of testosterone with marked variation in the rate of production of estradiol. Please clarify the form, dosage, and concentration as the concentration of the medication is more than a way to facilitate injection, it alters the pharmacodynamics of the medication and thus, your day to day experience.

Lowering my dose has been godsend so far for me. I don’t post much updates because I don’t want to seem like a fool a few weeks down the line. But in general my anxiety and brain fog is better, sex with my girlfriend is becoming a regular occurrence. Could just all be coincidence who knows.

I dropped to 100mg split in 2 shots a week, curious to see blood work down the line. If I see on 100mg I don’t notice anything too life changing I will go off T and do Clomid for a while to reboot my system.

Edit: I think there may be something to being a former steroid user vs not when doing TRT. For us who never did any cycle or any roid we will be sensitive to even a semi liberal TRT dose and T/E2 levels. While the other dudes can enjoy TOT more liberally.

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