[quote]sen say wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
I spent damn well close to 30+ years a Militant Atheist much like some of the people posting in this thread. [/quote]
Hope I didn’t come across as a militant atheist…ai yi yi…why do I drink so fucking much and then come on here.[/quote]
I didn’t have you in mind when I posted that, for what it’s worth.
I had faith that good things do happen to good people until my beautiful wife Barbara passed away from cancer 3 months ago. Even when she was first diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, we had faith in the best medical care and that she would be one of the 20% that made it to 5 years.
Even when things took a turn for the worse back in May, we all figured she’d somehow make a recovery. It was not the case though. I’ve always had a charmed-existence of sorts where even bad things would become not-so-bad and I’d get past them. Now my life is pretty much a shambles and I sure don’t believe in too much of anything ATM.
I’m sorry, I can’t imagine how painful that must be.
[quote]beachguy498 wrote:
I had faith that good things do happen to good people until my beautiful wife Barbara passed away from cancer 3 months ago. Even when she was first diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, we had faith in the best medical care and that she would be one of the 20% that made it to 5 years.
Even when things took a turn for the worse back in May, we all figured she’d somehow make a recovery. It was not the case though. I’ve always had a charmed-existence of sorts where even bad things would become not-so-bad and I’d get past them. Now my life is pretty much a shambles and I sure don’t believe in too much of anything ATM.[/quote]
This is pretty awful man, and I’m sorry for your loss.
I really wish PM’s worked right now.
[quote]kenny-mccormick wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote] sen say wrote:
I have 3 sons and I believe everything will turn out alright for them. Why? It ain’t got nothing to do with the Christian God as portrayed in the Bible.
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Err…so why then? Why would you believe that “everything will turn out alright for them?”[/quote]
Because they are HIS children. I completely agree with him I know my kids will have awesome lives because what I do affects the way there life goes.[/quote]
Oh this post is funny.
[quote]beachguy498 wrote:
I had faith that good things do happen to good people until my beautiful wife Barbara passed away from cancer 3 months ago. Even when she was first diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, we had faith in the best medical care and that she would be one of the 20% that made it to 5 years.
Even when things took a turn for the worse back in May, we all figured she’d somehow make a recovery. It was not the case though. I’ve always had a charmed-existence of sorts where even bad things would become not-so-bad and I’d get past them. Now my life is pretty much a shambles and I sure don’t believe in too much of anything ATM.[/quote]
So sorry to hear this man. I cant imagine what you’re going through. Stay strong and I hope you have friends and family around to help you get through this.
[quote]beachguy498 wrote:
I had faith that good things do happen to good people until my beautiful wife Barbara passed away from cancer 3 months ago. Even when she was first diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, we had faith in the best medical care and that she would be one of the 20% that made it to 5 years.
Even when things took a turn for the worse back in May, we all figured she’d somehow make a recovery. It was not the case though. I’ve always had a charmed-existence of sorts where even bad things would become not-so-bad and I’d get past them. Now my life is pretty much a shambles and I sure don’t believe in too much of anything ATM.[/quote]
I’m so sorry.
I don’t know if this helps at all, but it sounds like you were fortunate enough to experience great love. Some people go their whole life without ever finding that. I believe there is something eternal in our capacity to love one another. I believe you will see her again.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]beachguy498 wrote:
I had faith that good things do happen to good people until my beautiful wife Barbara passed away from cancer 3 months ago. Even when she was first diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, we had faith in the best medical care and that she would be one of the 20% that made it to 5 years.
Even when things took a turn for the worse back in May, we all figured she’d somehow make a recovery. It was not the case though. I’ve always had a charmed-existence of sorts where even bad things would become not-so-bad and I’d get past them. Now my life is pretty much a shambles and I sure don’t believe in too much of anything ATM.[/quote]
This is pretty awful man, and I’m sorry for your loss.
I really wish PM’s worked right now. [/quote]
Another me too. I’m so very sorry.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]kenny-mccormick wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]kenny-mccormick wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
I’ll take teaching my kid to look both ways before he crosses the street over trusting in blind “faith” that “God will protect my kid” when he crosses the street any day of the week and twice on Sunday.[/quote]
And rightly so. I don’t for a moment expect God to shield me from physical harm in this world.[/quote]
Also Santa Claus isn’t real either
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And yet, you and sen say have both claimed that your kids are somehow magically protected whilst I acknowledge the cold, hard facts of life. People seem to think that religious people all live in a fantasy world. Some might but I certainly don’t.[/quote]
I don’t think for a minute anyone is saying that their kids are “magicly protected” but I’m saying don’t worry about some “god” that may or may not be real. Its YOUR life take charge, life is wayy to short to be praying to nothing put your faith in yourself be your own fucking god ;)[/quote]
You’ve completely missed the entire point of prayer and religion.[/quote]
there is no point…
The question should not be ‘Do you believe in the Gods’ the question should be ‘Do the Gods believe in us?’
Faith is a poor substitute for steel. There are no promises. It might not work out, but it’s better than lying down and giving in.
Now put some steel in your spine, spit, grit your teeth and get back to work.
Thanks all, this is why I was MIA for a few months earlier in the year. We really were expecting a better outcome with Barbara’s cancer. The thing that shakes me is how good she was to everyone and everyone loved her. Nobody can say a bad word about her. I would have traded places with her at any point. I also have some women in my family, real pieces of crap and they’re still walking around. Good I only see some of them 2X a year.
I’m keeping the kids together, did all the insurance and financial stuff already, still more to do. Just a very surreal experience every step of the way. We were 13 days shy of being married 31 years and she died on 6/13… there’s those 13s again…
[quote]kenny-mccormick wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]kenny-mccormick wrote:
I don’t think for a minute anyone is saying that their kids are “magicly protected” but I’m saying don’t worry about some “god” that may or may not be real. Its YOUR life take charge, life is wayy to short to be praying to nothing put your faith in yourself be your own fucking god ;)[/quote]
You’ve completely missed the entire point of prayer and religion.[/quote]
there is no point…
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Quite the opposite really. If you actually had an open mind about it, you might not miss the forest and the trees, like you are now.
But whatever, enjoy your judgments and high horse. You might not even regret it later in life.
[quote]MartyMonster wrote:
Faith is a poor substitute for steel. There are no promises. It might not work out, but it’s better than lying down and giving in.
Now put some steel in your spine, spit, grit your teeth and get back to work.
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But what about the people who’s faith is their steel?
The other kid in this thread will never understand that question, you might.
[quote]beachguy498 wrote:
The thing that shakes me is how good she was to everyone and everyone loved her. Nobody can say a bad word about her. [/quote]
I wish I had some profound and wonderful thing to say that could help you paint this picture with a brighter array of colors, but who knows if words could ever accomplish what you need at this point.
However, I would be remiss if I didn’t point out, while tragic and cut short, she certainly seemed, based on above, to live a fulfilling life and left behind a legacy of hope and a testament to the true value of the human spirit.
[quote]beachguy498 wrote:
Thanks all, this is why I was MIA for a few months earlier in the year. We really were expecting a better outcome with Barbara’s cancer. The thing that shakes me is how good she was to everyone and everyone loved her. Nobody can say a bad word about her. I would have traded places with her at any point. I also have some women in my family, real pieces of crap and they’re still walking around. Good I only see some of them 2X a year.
I’m keeping the kids together, did all the insurance and financial stuff already, still more to do. Just a very surreal experience every step of the way. We were 13 days shy of being married 31 years and she died on 6/13… there’s those 13s again…[/quote]
I’m very sorry for your loss brother.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
But what about the people who’s faith is their steel?
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Perhaps this…
[quote]MartyMonster wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
But what about the people who’s faith is their steel?
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Perhaps this…[/quote]
Perhaps you want to give a serious answer? I know you aren’t that vapid.
Because that is the most moronic, disingenuous cartoon I’ve seen thus far on the subject. Literally Militant Atheist fantasy drawn for the sole purpose of confirmation bias and self aggrandizing masturbation.
If people don’t understand something then why do they feel compelled to comment on it? Further, why bother to criticize? A few here are missing the mark pretty bad.
As an aside, kenny, are you a native English speaker? Your grammar gives me an aneurysm. I have faith that your argument loses credibility because you present it like a 4th grader.
