[quote]frankyice8 wrote:
[quote]baugust wrote:
[quote]frankyice8 wrote:
Would appreciate feedback/opinions/recommendations.
Simplest Strength Template (4 Week Version)
Illustration of 5/3/1 Pyramid AMRAP… Squat/Week 1: 305x5, 345x5, 385x5 or more, 345x5 or more, 305x5 or more
Mon:
Big Lifts:
-Squat 5/3/1 Pyramid/AMRAP
-Straight Leg DL (Simplest Strength Format)
Assistance:
-Single Leg Press: 3x10-20 (each leg)
-Leg Curls: 3x10-20
-A1: Weighted DB Side Bend: 3x10-20
-A2: Hanging leg Raise: 3 x10-20
*A1/A2 = Superset
Tuesday:
Big Lifts:
-Bench 5/3/1 Pyramid/AMRAP
-Incline Press (Simplest Strength Format)
Assistance:
-DB Rows: 5x10-20 (all out last set)
-B1: Face Pulls: 3x10-20
-B2: Dips get 50 reps (~3 sets)
-Optional: Bicep 3 x10-20 (Anything)
-Optional: Core: 3 x10-20 (Anything)
*Chins b/w all sets of Bench/Incline Bench
**B1/B2 = Superset
Thursday:
Big Lifts:
-DL 5/3/1 Pyramid/AMRAP
-Front Squat (Simplest Strength Format)
Assistance:
- Glute Ham Raise: 3x10-20
-Leg Curls: 3x10-20
-A1: Weighted DB Side Bend: 3x10-20
-A2: Hanging leg Raise: 3 x10-20
*A1/A2 = Superset
Friday:
Big Lifts:
-Press 5/3/1 Pyramid/AMRAP
-Close Grip Bench (Simplest Strength Format)
Assistance:
-DB Rows: 5x10-20 (all out last set)
-B1: Face Pulls: 3x10-20
-B2: Dips get 50 reps (~3 sets)
-Optional: Bicep 3 x10-20 (Anything)
-Optional: Core: 3 x10-20 (Anything)
*Chins b/w all sets of Bench/Incline Bench
**B1/B2 = Superset
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You’re combining the 5/3/1 Pyramid with the Simplest Strength Template, which is a ton of volume. Then you do even more work after!
I think you should pick one of the two, and a few assistance lifts. Example:
Mon:
Big Lifts:
-Squat 5/3/1 Pyramid/AMRAP
Assistance:
-Straight Leg DL 3x10-20
-Single Leg Press: 3x10-20 (each leg)
-A1: Weighted DB Side Bend: 3x10-20
-A2: Hanging leg Raise: 3 x10-20
*A1/A2 = Superset
Just my opinion. If you’re doing the 5/3/1 pyramid and you’re going for + sets on every back off set, that’s a ton of work. [/quote]
Thanks for your input baugust!
Volume may seem high considering I’m doing 5/3/1 pyramid and + sets on every back off set, however I just finished a cycle of Indigo Project Training so the volume actually isn’t too bad. Add in Plasma and MAG-10 and my body seriously has no problems at all. Most days I yearn for more, but I do not stray.
The premise of the Simplest Strength Template is 2 Big Lifts per day, so I def. want to keep that aspect going. The first lift follows 5/3/1 to the tee and that is my main focus as with ALL 5/3/1/ templates. The second Big Lift is based on 90% of your actual 1 rep max (essentially 5/3/1 working sets), but not as brutal since working % are lower. For example, Week One 50%x10, 60%x10, 70%x10, Week Two 60%x8, 70%x8, 80%x6, Week Three 65%x5, 75%x5, 85%x5, and Week Four 40%x5, 50%x5, 60%x5. Again, this sequence is the basis of Simplest Strength so I want to keep this going.
Per Wendler’s recommendation (5/3/1 2nd Edition), the additional assistance work for the upper body (Lats, Upper Back, Triceps, Biceps) and lower body (Hamstrings, Lower Back, Abs), I pick one exercise for each of these body parts and do 3 sets of 10-20 reps with exception of DB Rows where I do 5 sets (book also says okay to do more volume of back). I also do sets of chins in between presses (usually 10x10 total)- this too is not contrary to book.
A key note, I never go to fail on anything and my focus is always Big Lift #1 and then #2, with assistance work being exactly that-- assistance. Again, I appreciate the input, and I did not reply to counter your argument/thoughts, just more so for better understanding of the reasoning behind my template.
Given this new information I’d appreciate your and any one else’s insight. I def. value the great minds of T-Nation. Thanks to all!![/quote]
I see what you’re saying. I was just suggesting that, although you may be able to handle the volume, it may not be optimal for you. Of course, this depends on your goals, too. At the end of the day, you are combining two templates, so the entire workout strays from “Wendler’s recommendations.”
But like I said before, if it’s working for you, great.