So a while back Shugs posted that article, Double Surge Challenge, where he double dosed Surge Recovery with his workout. One serving peri, one serving post. Simple enough.
I tried it. It seemed to work. But i admit i did it on blind faith and now that I’ve read a bit more around T-Nation it seems to have created more questions.
For example, now that Biotest has evolved BCAA’s and Surge Workout Fuel etc, is double dosing Surge Recovery just a waste of time?
Are there better ways to get in that amount of nutrients around your workout (100g Carbs, 50g Protein)?
Can you get the same result by taking a serving Metabolic Drive to piggy back on the insulin spike caused by the carbs in Surge Recovery? That way you get lower carb intake along with the extra protein.
And lastly, does your relative size a weight dictate whether this “dosage” is effective or not?
Just thought i would throw this out there. Interested to hear other experiences.
[quote]BradyZ wrote:
I think the whole point was to keep feeding the body while you workout, therefore you will have better workouts.
Now, it would be to use Surge Workout Fuel and then Surge Recovery afterwards.
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Fair point. But there are 330 calories of goodness in that extra serving of Surge that you don’t get in Surge Workout Fuel. Is there any added benefit to extra nutrients?
It really depends on your body. I tried it for a while and doing the PWO during my workout just leaves me feeling sick and jittery because I’m on a sugar high/filled w/ calories in my stomach while working out, and it’s not really my idea of a good time. So I instead have big meals right before and after the workout to make up for it. It’s really how you feel…
[quote]acelement wrote:
It really depends on your body. I tried it for a while and doing the PWO during my workout just leaves me feeling sick and jittery because I’m on a sugar high/filled w/ calories in my stomach while working out, and it’s not really my idea of a good time. So I instead have big meals right before and after the workout to make up for it. It’s really how you feel…[/quote]
i have a pre-workout meal of oatmeal, whey and bcaa/glutamine/beta-alanine
sip on water during workout
post-workout meal of whey, dextrose, maltodextrin. i have considered using glutamine/bcaa/beta w/ water peri-workout, simply because it is so diluted it doesn’t seem like you’re drinking anything but water, so that could be another thing to try i guess.
but no actual protein/carbs during the workout, i just can’t stomach it.
I say go for it if you can afford it and it doesn’t make you feel sick. I’ve never had a problem eating/drinking whatever I want but I know some people feel sick with a preworkout shake.
I know if I’m getting a lot of volume in having the extra carbs during the workout really makes a difference, even on top of my normal 20-30 grams of BCAA’s. But, I’ve really got to be trucking to feel like it makes a difference. Usually the BCAAs are enough.
[quote]conorh wrote:
I say go for it if you can afford it and it doesn’t make you feel sick. I’ve never had a problem eating/drinking whatever I want but I know some people feel sick with a preworkout shake.
I know if I’m getting a lot of volume in having the extra carbs during the workout really makes a difference, even on top of my normal 20-30 grams of BCAA’s. But, I’ve really got to be trucking to feel like it makes a difference. Usually the BCAAs are enough.[/quote]
Yeah i think that’s the kicker. When i tried the double Surge before i wasn’t using BCAA’s. Perhaps Double Surge AND BCAA’s would be overkill.
So i think I’ll just stick to a single serving of Surge and get my extra protein from MD and carbs from a more ‘wholesome’ source when i want to put on some weight. Like sweet potatoes. God i love sweet potatoes.
