What Would Happen if They Ended Food Stamps

[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:

[quote]Dabba wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]Dabba wrote:

[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
The problem is that the Link allows them to purchase ANY food product. Which is absolutely asinine.

For example- hershey bars, specialty cakes from the bakery, pop, chips, candy, lobster, t-bone steaks, etc etc can all be purchased with Link cards.

Link needs to be set up exactly like WIC, where you can only purchase the foods listed, such as milk, eggs, bread, fruit, etc. Nutritional, healthy foods, and set a limit.

I don’t know what fucking moron thought it’d be a good idea to allow people on food stamps to purchase whatever they have in the store that’s edible.[/quote]

I don’t think that’s really a problem. Are you claiming that you actually know that they desire, “nutritional, healthy foods” more than candy bars and cake?

I say end food stamps and just give them straight up money, as a temporary alternative. No need to be dictating what they spend their money on. If you’re going to give them something for nothing, might as well give them cash so they can spend it on what they desire. Beyond that, I guarantee that they are not getting their money’s worth in food stamps. If the money that is being given to them in the form of food stamps right now was instead just given as straight up cash, they would get a lot more of it.
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Hulk I like your idea. WIC is much better than Foodstamps.

Dabba who do you think you are saying what the poor receive is “their money?” The US Government does not have any money. It is money provided by the working taxpayers of this country. Beggers can not be choosers.[/quote]

You are so very correct. My first option would be to abolish food stamps altogether, but if you’re going to give people something then you might as well give them money as food stamps have other costs involved and the money that supposedly goes to them gets carted off to other programs, thereby lessening the amount that they are actually supposed to receive. In any event, why order them around as to what they must buy? I mean, if they really want candy bars more, isn’t that more a reflection on why they shouldn’t have food stamps in the first place, rather than forcing them to choose a certain food?
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It’s a government assistance program, it’s not their own money. When they’re able to fully provide for themselves and their own then they can choose what they want to eat. Until then, there should be a set list of certain foods allowed to be purchased with food stamps.[/quote]

I can understand both of your arguments, but I am leaning toward Inner Hulk. If you are going to rely on someone else to take care of you the idea of Entitlement should go out the window. My issue is the money given is never enough. If you are giving the people money, foodstamps or whatever, you should have some sort of way to keep them accountable. You want that candy bar, go do a service, not sexual, for someone and they will give you money so you can buy the candy bar. The idea of work has left our society, and particular my generation and younger.

[quote]Dabba wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]Dabba wrote:

[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
The problem is that the Link allows them to purchase ANY food product. Which is absolutely asinine.

For example- hershey bars, specialty cakes from the bakery, pop, chips, candy, lobster, t-bone steaks, etc etc can all be purchased with Link cards.

Link needs to be set up exactly like WIC, where you can only purchase the foods listed, such as milk, eggs, bread, fruit, etc. Nutritional, healthy foods, and set a limit.

I don’t know what fucking moron thought it’d be a good idea to allow people on food stamps to purchase whatever they have in the store that’s edible.[/quote]

I don’t think that’s really a problem. Are you claiming that you actually know that they desire, “nutritional, healthy foods” more than candy bars and cake?

I say end food stamps and just give them straight up money, as a temporary alternative. No need to be dictating what they spend their money on. If you’re going to give them something for nothing, might as well give them cash so they can spend it on what they desire. Beyond that, I guarantee that they are not getting their money’s worth in food stamps. If the money that is being given to them in the form of food stamps right now was instead just given as straight up cash, they would get a lot more of it.
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Hulk I like your idea. WIC is much better than Foodstamps.

Dabba who do you think you are saying what the poor receive is “their money?” The US Government does not have any money. It is money provided by the working taxpayers of this country. Beggers can not be choosers.[/quote]

You are so very correct. My first option would be to abolish food stamps altogether, but if you’re going to give people something then you might as well give them money as food stamps have other costs involved and the money that supposedly goes to them gets carted off to other programs, thereby lessening the amount that they are actually supposed to receive. In any event, why order them around as to what they must buy? I mean, if they really want candy bars more, isn’t that more a reflection on why they shouldn’t have food stamps in the first place, rather than forcing them to choose a certain food?
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Why would you give them money instead of food stamps? I mean, I could care less what food they actually use it for. Only an idiot would buy Lobster tails at $25 each if they knew they were limited to a certain amount total. If they want to waste it on luxury food and starve later, that is their choice.
But back to that money, I only know so much about food stamps, and hope someone with more insight can clarify, but that would be a terrible idea. I know people who work, yet somehow manage to still use food stamps for their families. They then spend the rest of the money on games for their kids and frivolous things. What do you think they will do with cash?

[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
It’s a government assistance program, it’s not their own money. When they’re able to fully provide for themselves and their own then they can choose what they want to eat. Until then, there should be a set list of certain foods allowed to be purchased with food stamps.[/quote]

The point is, that these programs are put out there, with X money being siphoned off here, and Y there, and Z there, that there is no wonder there is so much waste in government. If you added up the monetary value that each program costs and instead gave that in the form of cash, I think they would be much better off. I will say, however, that forcing them to choose healthier foods in this program, in particular, is not the worst idea, but generally I think it would be much more efficient to simply give people cash.

IF there were an abolishment of entitlement programs churches and other benevolent programs would start taking up the slack. Charitable contributions would go way up, and the hungry would get FOOD, not an entitlement.

Entitlements are slavery, and it worked for a while. Now that the pot has run dry…

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]nomorewar wrote:
productivity in this country would go up tenfold.[/quote]

I bet cheap beer and liqueur sales would drop dramatically.[/quote]

You can’t buy beer and liquor with food stamps.

Let those little old ladies starve to death!!! That sounds like a good plan.