What to Take with Sust?

[quote]SuperTightPanda wrote:

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]SuperTightPanda wrote:

[quote]bigdad1e wrote:
I am new to the world of boosters. I have been interested in them for the past 5 or so years since i was about 20. I have been putting it off and doing tons of research due to the bad publicity of it. I recently acquired some sustanon and its been in the fridge for a few months while i make up my mind to take this route or not. a little about me. im 5’11" 145lbs. been the same height and weight since i was 14. very little body fat. recently ive noticed a decrease in my sex drive, energy, and motivation. during my research ive read that sus helps with all of the above and helps put on some mass.

my goal is to be at 170. i did my first injection tonight of sus 250. should i be taking anything else with it? ive read some take deca, some winstrol, and some just take sus. im just looking for some insight. sorry for bouncing around. not good at writing. thank you in advance for any information passed my way. [/quote]

Since you’re my same stats and getting the typical answers to eat more lol…wouldn’t test-sus 150mg EoD for 8-12 weeks be a typical starter cycle? add arimidex .25-.5mg EoD and pct Nolva 40/40/20/20…if you want to add winstrol 50mg day for like 4-6 weeks go for it (glucosamine for joints, milk thistle for liver if not injecting). I did Test-e/Winny for a test month and got almost 10 pounds…this isn’t pro advice so don’t take it as, before everyone loses there shit, my 2 cents from a complete newbie lol. Just the only real answer to his question, would be cool for someone to clarify to him if it’s a good one or not. He should have his research and know the risks, and to eat more or add gallon of milk to his diet like kount said.
[/quote]

yeah, your advice is great considering you needed steroids to weigh like 90lbs.

You’re definitely someone worth listening to.
[/quote]

Lol I love how there’s that reassurance something is likely not going good in your life that you need to constantly bash randoms online when your a middle aged dude with no common courtesy or respect to feel good about yourself lol. Assuming from all the steroids I’m guessing either past or present you’ve gotten limp dick or your sex drive just isnt what it was… lmao I’m not a therapist but do some shrooms and maybe you’ll appreciate something in your life for once and just let it stick with you :wink: Anyways you’ve been tickling my anus for a bit long now… stop wiping my ass with your shit comments.
[/quote]

give it a rest, man. You have no idea what you’re talking about.

[quote]SuperTightPanda wrote:
[/quote]

The guidance they and you NEED to hear and what they want to hear is two entirely different things. The op and you have no idea what you are doing and jumped on gear because you couldn’t get heavier than 140 lbs. You have no idea what you are doing and had it not been for the drugs you would still be 140lbs. If you can not produce results naturally in your self or other which you have admitted that you can’t in your other thread then you have no place in giving training, nutrition, or drug advice. The op was pretty much told exactly what you were told and needed to hear. Was it done politely no. We can’t help that people such as your self just can’t except the fact that results can happen and should happen naturally before getting on

[quote]Reed wrote:

[quote]SuperTightPanda wrote:
[/quote]

The guidance they and you NEED to hear and what they want to hear is two entirely different things. The op and you have no idea what you are doing and jumped on gear because you couldn’t get heavier than 140 lbs. You have no idea what you are doing and had it not been for the drugs you would still be 140lbs. If you can not produce results naturally in your self or other which you have admitted that you can’t in your other thread then you have no place in giving training, nutrition, or drug advice. The op was pretty much told exactly what you were told and needed to hear. Was it done politely no. We can’t help that people such as your self just can’t except the fact that results can happen and should happen naturally before getting on[/quote]

I do agree with most that if that’s a shocker :stuck_out_tongue: the being on is what pushed me to double my eating day in and out, so it is technically because of it. The only drug advice I would give is saying I’m new too, but winstrol dosages, test-e, first cycle and pct I can answer as its been in dozenss of posts and I’m just pointing out obvious details, anything beyond that I fully agree I shouldn’t give advice. At best research it myself. look up some posts to post them and let them decide, just push the research side of it yes.

I understand the saying no dont do it, age, weight, training(that part I know I’m good with after pushing myself more and more passed what I thought was acceptable, agree or disagree just stating it) just don’t bash it in repeatably because it’s not going to change their mind, very few do as you deffinitely know. Just please give the advice or say don’t do it and why, let them decide, if they dont research or know the risks then it’s stupidity and let them fuck up, that goes for me too. I fully agree with where your coming from so sorry dude if I pissed you off being ignorant to some of the shit :stuck_out_tongue:

[quote]SuperTightPanda wrote:

[quote]Reed wrote:

[quote]SuperTightPanda wrote:
[/quote]

The guidance they and you NEED to hear and what they want to hear is two entirely different things. The op and you have no idea what you are doing and jumped on gear because you couldn’t get heavier than 140 lbs. You have no idea what you are doing and had it not been for the drugs you would still be 140lbs. If you can not produce results naturally in your self or other which you have admitted that you can’t in your other thread then you have no place in giving training, nutrition, or drug advice. The op was pretty much told exactly what you were told and needed to hear. Was it done politely no. We can’t help that people such as your self just can’t except the fact that results can happen and should happen naturally before getting on[/quote]

I do agree with most that if that’s a shocker :stuck_out_tongue: the being on is what pushed me to double my eating day in and out, so it is technically because of it.

I understand the saying no dont do it, age, weight, training(that part I know I’m good with after pushing myself more and more passed what I thought was acceptable, agree or disagree just stating it) [/quote]

This is exactly why your gains will disappear once you come off the cycle, Boo Boo (yes, I’m calling you Boo Boo from now on, deal with it!). And then you will be one of those idiots using more and more shit just to maintain a bodyweight of 170lbs.

[quote]SuperTightPanda wrote:

[quote]Reed wrote:

[quote]SuperTightPanda wrote:
[/quote]

The guidance they and you NEED to hear and what they want to hear is two entirely different things. The op and you have no idea what you are doing and jumped on gear because you couldn’t get heavier than 140 lbs. You have no idea what you are doing and had it not been for the drugs you would still be 140lbs. If you can not produce results naturally in your self or other which you have admitted that you can’t in your other thread then you have no place in giving training, nutrition, or drug advice. The op was pretty much told exactly what you were told and needed to hear. Was it done politely no. We can’t help that people such as your self just can’t except the fact that results can happen and should happen naturally before getting on[/quote]

I do agree with most that if that’s a shocker :stuck_out_tongue: the being on is what pushed me to double my eating day in and out, so it is technically because of it. The only drug advice I would give is saying I’m new too, but winstrol dosages, test-e, first cycle and pct I can answer as its been in dozenss of posts and I’m just pointing out obvious details, anything beyond that I fully agree I shouldn’t give advice. At best research it myself. look up some posts to post them and let them decide, just push the research side of it yes.

I understand the saying no dont do it, age, weight, training(that part I know I’m good with after pushing myself more and more passed what I thought was acceptable, agree or disagree just stating it) just don’t bash it in repeatably because it’s not going to change their mind, very few do as you deffinitely know. Just please give the advice or say don’t do it and why, let them decide, if they dont research or know the risks then it’s stupidity and let them fuck up, that goes for me too. I fully agree with where your coming from so sorry dude if I pissed you off being ignorant to some of the shit :P[/quote]

See this is where you are making the mistake that the reason I am here and most are bashing you for your decision is because of your drug use. Is your drug use foolish, ill-advised, and unnecessary… Yes. But that is YOUR foolsih choice. The problem I have with you is that you came to public forum where other foolish and just starting out 140lbs kids who have no idea what they are doing can and will see your post. Then they will see you defending it and making gains that they could have made naturally. But, because you did it and saw fast results they will then follow in your foolish foot steps. If you want to do stupid shit fine but, do not advocate it to others and limit what they could do just because you chose to do so.

[quote]Reed wrote:

See this is where you are making the mistake that the reason I am here and most are bashing you for your decision is because of your drug use. Is your drug use foolish, ill-advised, and unnecessary… Yes. But that is YOUR foolsih choice. The problem I have with you is that you came to public forum where other foolish and just starting out 140lbs kids who have no idea what they are doing can and will see your post. Then they will see you defending it and making gains that they could have made naturally. But, because you did it and saw fast results they will then follow in your foolish foot steps. If you want to do stupid shit fine but, do not advocate it to others and limit what they could do just because you chose to do so.[/quote]

Alright, I’m an absolute idiot for not realizing that was the real point… I missed that notion completely. Even younger then 21, yeah that was retarded on my part cause the risks are to the endocrine system not devoloped etc, but if their here I was assuming they’d research that or figure that out by then. Typically my age though you’d understand the risks which is why I was personally defending it and still going through with it. Shitballs still. You won the internet. applauds most valid point ever

[quote]Reed wrote:

[quote]SuperTightPanda wrote:

[quote]Reed wrote:

[quote]SuperTightPanda wrote:
[/quote]

The guidance they and you NEED to hear and what they want to hear is two entirely different things. The op and you have no idea what you are doing and jumped on gear because you couldn’t get heavier than 140 lbs. You have no idea what you are doing and had it not been for the drugs you would still be 140lbs. If you can not produce results naturally in your self or other which you have admitted that you can’t in your other thread then you have no place in giving training, nutrition, or drug advice. The op was pretty much told exactly what you were told and needed to hear. Was it done politely no. We can’t help that people such as your self just can’t except the fact that results can happen and should happen naturally before getting on[/quote]

I do agree with most that if that’s a shocker :stuck_out_tongue: the being on is what pushed me to double my eating day in and out, so it is technically because of it. The only drug advice I would give is saying I’m new too, but winstrol dosages, test-e, first cycle and pct I can answer as its been in dozenss of posts and I’m just pointing out obvious details, anything beyond that I fully agree I shouldn’t give advice. At best research it myself. look up some posts to post them and let them decide, just push the research side of it yes.

I understand the saying no dont do it, age, weight, training(that part I know I’m good with after pushing myself more and more passed what I thought was acceptable, agree or disagree just stating it) just don’t bash it in repeatably because it’s not going to change their mind, very few do as you deffinitely know. Just please give the advice or say don’t do it and why, let them decide, if they dont research or know the risks then it’s stupidity and let them fuck up, that goes for me too. I fully agree with where your coming from so sorry dude if I pissed you off being ignorant to some of the shit :P[/quote]

See this is where you are making the mistake that the reason I am here and most are bashing you for your decision is because of your drug use. Is your drug use foolish, ill-advised, and unnecessary… Yes. But that is YOUR foolsih choice. The problem I have with you is that you came to public forum where other foolish and just starting out 140lbs kids who have no idea what they are doing can and will see your post. Then they will see you defending it and making gains that they could have made naturally. But, because you did it and saw fast results they will then follow in your foolish foot steps. If you want to do stupid shit fine but, do not advocate it to others and limit what they could do just because you chose to do so.[/quote]

I have a hard enough time with these morons using themselves. When they start advising or acting like role models to others I get pretty pissed off.

[quote]SuperTightPanda wrote:

[quote]Reed wrote:

[quote]SuperTightPanda wrote:
[/quote]

The guidance they and you NEED to hear and what they want to hear is two entirely different things. The op and you have no idea what you are doing and jumped on gear because you couldn’t get heavier than 140 lbs. You have no idea what you are doing and had it not been for the drugs you would still be 140lbs. If you can not produce results naturally in your self or other which you have admitted that you can’t in your other thread then you have no place in giving training, nutrition, or drug advice. The op was pretty much told exactly what you were told and needed to hear. Was it done politely no. We can’t help that people such as your self just can’t except the fact that results can happen and should happen naturally before getting on[/quote]

I do agree with most that if that’s a shocker :stuck_out_tongue: the being on is what pushed me to double my eating day in and out, so it is technically because of it. The only drug advice I would give is saying I’m new too, but winstrol dosages, test-e, first cycle and pct I can answer as its been in dozenss of posts and I’m just pointing out obvious details, anything beyond that I fully agree I shouldn’t give advice. At best research it myself. look up some posts to post them and let them decide, just push the research side of it yes.

I understand the saying no dont do it, age, weight, training(that part I know I’m good with after pushing myself more and more passed what I thought was acceptable, agree or disagree just stating it) just don’t bash it in repeatably because it’s not going to change their mind, very few do as you deffinitely know. Just please give the advice or say don’t do it and why, let them decide, if they dont research or know the risks then it’s stupidity and let them fuck up, that goes for me too. I fully agree with where your coming from so sorry dude if I pissed you off being ignorant to some of the shit :P[/quote]

The problem is what I just stated above. You’ve been told countless times you shouldn’t be using AAS period. End of story. Shut the fuck up and don’t argue it. I don’t care what you have to say. You are acting like you know what you are doing and opening up discussions about doing stupid nonsensical cycles. You are not a role model. You are an idiot. If other people choose to follow the road you’ve gone down as a result of your actions and your advice you will piss people off more than you already have. Do us all a favor and go away.

[quote]SuperTightPanda wrote:

[quote]bigdad1e wrote:
I am new to the world of boosters. I have been interested in them for the past 5 or so years since i was about 20. I have been putting it off and doing tons of research due to the bad publicity of it. I recently acquired some sustanon and its been in the fridge for a few months while i make up my mind to take this route or not. a little about me. im 5’11" 145lbs. been the same height and weight since i was 14. very little body fat. recently ive noticed a decrease in my sex drive, energy, and motivation. during my research ive read that sus helps with all of the above and helps put on some mass.

my goal is to be at 170. i did my first injection tonight of sus 250. should i be taking anything else with it? ive read some take deca, some winstrol, and some just take sus. im just looking for some insight. sorry for bouncing around. not good at writing. thank you in advance for any information passed my way. [/quote]

Since you’re my same stats and getting the typical answers to eat more lol…wouldn’t test-sus 150mg EoD for 8-12 weeks be a typical starter cycle? add arimidex .25-.5mg EoD and pct Nolva 40/40/20/20…if you want to add winstrol 50mg day for like 4-6 weeks go for it (glucosamine for joints, milk thistle for liver if not injecting). I did Test-e/Winny for a test month and got almost 10 pounds…this isn’t pro advice so don’t take it as, before everyone loses there shit, my 2 cents from a complete newbie lol. Just the only real answer to his question, would be cool for someone to clarify to him if it’s a good one or not. He should have his research and know the risks, and to eat more or add gallon of milk to his diet like kount said.
[/quote]

Jesus christ there’s 2 of them! I’m in total agreement with T-bone. Where do you get off giving advice? Just stop dude seriously. One of my biggest pet peeves is when people give advice when they’re clearly not worthy or qualified to give it. It’s a disgrace to the natties out there and to this forum.

I literally just entered the forum today and I’m dumb founded by your lazy skinny ass thinking gear is the answer. Then you give advice to someone who literally is your weak lanky twin. I’m learning about gear myself, but that’s exactly all I’m doing… learning! I already know how to train and eat right… you don’t. It’s been said over and over. Your gonna do what you want to do because you obviously just didnt hear what you wanted and can’t take advice and run with it when you see it. So stop giving it yourself except if it’s how not to train, eat, and be a total moron.

Get out of here and go back to impressing people in the gym with your 45lb curls.

[quote]Steez wrote:

[quote]SuperTightPanda wrote:

[quote]bigdad1e wrote:
I am new to the world of boosters. I have been interested in them for the past 5 or so years since i was about 20. I have been putting it off and doing tons of research due to the bad publicity of it. I recently acquired some sustanon and its been in the fridge for a few months while i make up my mind to take this route or not. a little about me. im 5’11" 145lbs. been the same height and weight since i was 14. very little body fat. recently ive noticed a decrease in my sex drive, energy, and motivation. during my research ive read that sus helps with all of the above and helps put on some mass.

my goal is to be at 170. i did my first injection tonight of sus 250. should i be taking anything else with it? ive read some take deca, some winstrol, and some just take sus. im just looking for some insight. sorry for bouncing around. not good at writing. thank you in advance for any information passed my way. [/quote]

Since you’re my same stats and getting the typical answers to eat more lol…wouldn’t test-sus 150mg EoD for 8-12 weeks be a typical starter cycle? add arimidex .25-.5mg EoD and pct Nolva 40/40/20/20…if you want to add winstrol 50mg day for like 4-6 weeks go for it (glucosamine for joints, milk thistle for liver if not injecting). I did Test-e/Winny for a test month and got almost 10 pounds…this isn’t pro advice so don’t take it as, before everyone loses there shit, my 2 cents from a complete newbie lol. Just the only real answer to his question, would be cool for someone to clarify to him if it’s a good one or not. He should have his research and know the risks, and to eat more or add gallon of milk to his diet like kount said.
[/quote]

Jesus christ there’s 2 of them! I’m in total agreement with T-bone. Where do you get off giving advice? Just stop dude seriously. One of my biggest pet peeves is when people give advice when they’re clearly not worthy or qualified to give it. It’s a disgrace to the natties out there and to this forum.

I literally just entered the forum today and I’m dumb founded by your lazy skinny ass thinking gear is the answer. Then you give advice to someone who literally is your weak lanky twin. I’m learning about gear myself, but that’s exactly all I’m doing… learning! I already know how to train and eat right… you don’t. It’s been said over and over. Your gonna do what you want to do because you obviously just didnt hear what you wanted and can’t take advice and run with it when you see it. So stop giving it yourself except if it’s how not to train, eat, and be a total moron.

Get out of here and go back to impressing people in the gym with your 45lb curls.

[/quote]

Edit: Wrong post I read, thought this was another…lol what I wrote was probably the most basic thing I’ve seen in the steroids section of the site. I literally said add to it if you know better I’m a newby to cycling, hence why I posted, to maybe get people to give real answers for once. :wink: if thats what it takes that’s what I’ll do :stuck_out_tongue: give real advice or I’ll be the only answers lmfao…thats not good.