I just did a 4 week cycle of Epistane, followed by 4 weeks of Nolva and Clomid. I’m about to start the 4th week of my PCT. I was going to wait a couple weeks then looking into a Dbol cycle. I know the sides are kinda rough with a dbol only cycle. What should I take other than milk thistle and high water intake with it?
Test
You can take it alone as long as your water and protein intake are good. No need to stack to get good gains with it.
I was planning on 30mg/day for 4 weeks of Dbol then
week 1: Nolva 40mg / day , Clomid 75mg / day
week 2: Nolva 40mg / day , Clomid 50mg / day
week 3: Nolva 20mg / day, Clomid 50mg / day
week 4: Nolva 20mg / day, Clomid 50mg / day
[quote]johngalt191 wrote:
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Why not just use test?
Well I’ve never pinned. Kinda sketches me out. Don’t want to screw it up.
Not gonna lie I about passed out the first time I did it because I hate hate hate needles. By the second time it was no big deal. In fact I was excited for it.
Ok… So then should I cycle just Test E alone for 4-6 weeks? 500mg a week? And then the same PCT as I previously stated. And is HGC necessary for a short cycle like this?
HCG*
I am thinking it would be preferable to use short ester like prop for a short cycle and HCG at a low dose throughout probably would help for a faster recovery. But I am only on my first cycle and that is just stuff I read here and other places so take that for what it is worth.
seriously pinning is nothing, I was the same. Honestly I am a little addicted to the act of pinning because every pin is one step closer towards your goal.
[quote]optheta wrote:
seriously pinning is nothing, I was the same. Honestly I am a little addicted to the act of pinning because every pin is one step closer towards your goal.[/quote]
Alright I think I can handle it… What do you think about my last comment about dosage and hcg & pct?
Extend it to 12 weeks since Test E is long ester it will take 3-4 weeks for it to kick in. And HCG is your choice, your PCT is fine, you start it 2 week after your last pin.
[quote]optheta wrote:
Extend it to 12 weeks since Test E is long ester it will take 3-4 weeks for it to kick in. And HCG is your choice, your PCT is fine, you start it 2 week after your last pin.
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Thanks for the help.
So should I use test cyp if I just want a short cycle?
[quote]HardGainer23 wrote:
So should I use test cyp if I just want a short cycle?[/quote]
Test e and cyp esters are virtually the same. Go with with prop but that will require eod day injections but still it is recommended that ur cycle should be 12 weeks regardless what test you use(with prop 8 week cycles are done however but that is the shortest id go).
Thanks man. Anyone else have a second opinion?
Here’s my second opinion. If you don’t know the difference between prop, cyp and enanthate you need to study more. If you want to hear what you want to hear then pin away with the knowledge divulged in this thread.
Read the sticky at the front of this forum and then google everything. Every substance you might possibly think of putting in your body. See what acts with what, what each drug does, what the sides are, what the counteractions for sides are.
[quote]SIM37 wrote:
Here’s my second opinion. If you don’t know the difference between prop, cyp and enanthate you need to study more. If you want to hear what you want to hear then pin away with the knowledge divulged in this thread.
Read the sticky at the front of this forum and then google everything. Every substance you might possibly think of putting in your body. See what acts with what, what each drug does, what the sides are, what the counteractions for sides are.
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Yeah, the more I learn about AAS, the more I realize that there’s a shit ton more to learn. Probably going to research for a while before pinning. Seems really complicated…
What I don’t understand is what’s wrong with taking an oral only if you have a healthy liver, take the proper liver support, vitamins and PCT? As long as you counteract the side effects, I don’t see the problem…