[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
IQ wrote:
Yo Momma wrote:
IQ wrote:
The real problem is when you don’t believe in anything at all.
What if you’re a Nihilist?
Then you wouldn’t have any problems, solutions or anything for that matter.
It is what it is.
Sometimes it is what it ain’t.
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I won’t let you mess with my mind 
[quote]Professor X wrote:
It would be destiny and isn’t that much of a different concept than you see on sci fi programs that involve alternate realities. Both outcomes could be part of the plan even if you choose one over the other.
The absolute final outcome may still occur but it doesn’t erase the choices you had to make to get there.[/quote]
Surely if you accept the concept of destiny you must accept that your life has always been leading towards a conclusion that was destined for you. You may think that you have chosen the outcome but that would be an impossibility.
There’s either a master plan or there isn’t, no sitting on the fence allowed.
[quote]IQ wrote:
There’s either a master plan or there isn’t, no sitting on the fence allowed.[/quote]
What I’m saying is that the “Master Plan” could very well involve both outcomes. We have simply accepted that “destiny” requires choice to be irrelevant. I don’t think that is the case. I think it is up to you whether you actually fulfill that destiny and that is where the “choices” lie.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
IQ wrote:
There’s either a master plan or there isn’t, no sitting on the fence allowed.
What I’m saying is that the “Master Plan” could very well involve both outcomes. We have simply accepted that “destiny” requires choice to be irrelevant. I don’t think that is the case. I think it is up to you whether you actually fulfill that destiny and that is where the “choices” lie.[/quote]
I understand what you’re saying. It’s like when Forest Gump cheated Leutenant Dan out of his destiny…right?
i hate to hijack this thread, but why the fuck does this thread’s URL say: http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/music_movies_girls_life/october_girl_naked
october girl naked??? LMFAO
[quote]masonator wrote:
i hate to hijack this thread, but why the fuck does this thread’s URL say: http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/music_movies_girls_life/october_girl_naked
october girl naked??? LMFAO[/quote]
I noticed that too… Thought I was crazy for a minute.
Seems it worked for you eh?
meds or find what you really want to do.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
IQ wrote:
There’s either a master plan or there isn’t, no sitting on the fence allowed.
What I’m saying is that the “Master Plan” could very well involve both outcomes. We have simply accepted that “destiny” requires choice to be irrelevant. I don’t think that is the case. I think it is up to you whether you actually fulfill that destiny and that is where the “choices” lie.[/quote]
Well I guess that could be a possibility but then that raises the question of how detailed the “Master Plan” actually is. If the master plan allows for you as an individual to change the outcome of your life, how important is the outcome of your life to the master plan?
Learn music production, make some music.
It’s fun and it takes tons of time.
Plus, you might make some money off it too!
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Professor X wrote:
IQ wrote:
There’s either a master plan or there isn’t, no sitting on the fence allowed.
What I’m saying is that the “Master Plan” could very well involve both outcomes. We have simply accepted that “destiny” requires choice to be irrelevant. I don’t think that is the case. I think it is up to you whether you actually fulfill that destiny and that is where the “choices” lie.
I understand what you’re saying. It’s like when Forest Gump cheated Leutenant Dan out of his destiny…right?[/quote]
I guess so.
Or:
If you had made the decision to sleep in class more, you could very well be in a different place right now as far as social/financial status. Maybe that doesn’t erase what could have been…you just chose to not take advantage of an opportunity. You missed out on your best outcome in life.
Or:
You chose to tease that dorky girl in high school only to find out she is now a supermodel. Maybe she liked you back then but now you get no supermodel ass and missed out on supermodel ass destiny.
[quote]masonator wrote:
i hate to hijack this thread, but why the fuck does this thread’s URL say: http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/music_movies_girls_life/october_girl_naked
october girl naked??? LMFAO[/quote]
Wtf b?
[quote]IQ wrote:
Professor X wrote:
IQ wrote:
There’s either a master plan or there isn’t, no sitting on the fence allowed.
What I’m saying is that the “Master Plan” could very well involve both outcomes. We have simply accepted that “destiny” requires choice to be irrelevant. I don’t think that is the case. I think it is up to you whether you actually fulfill that destiny and that is where the “choices” lie.
Well I guess that could be a possibility but then that raises the question of how detailed the “Master Plan” actually is. If the master plan allows for you as an individual to change the outcome of your life, how important is the outcome of your life to the master plan?[/quote]
I’ve honestly always thought that CHOICE was the point of it all, not specifically the end result.
Amigo, I feel your pain. There’s alot of people around I see and know that feel this way to (and not just young guys).
I always needed something to be working towards… when things stagnate, I get bored, then depressed, then I’m instadrunk.
For me, getting back into fighting arts really saved my ass. I’m always learning something new, always testing myself, etc. It was something I was always kind of scared of, but once you do something like that, you realize that you really can do whatever you like, it’s only you holding yourself back.
Don’t get me wrong, I like drinking a whole lot. But when you’re in a rut, drinking will only dig you deeper, and make things progressively worse. I had to come out of a dark period in my life to figure that one out… now, when I’m upset, I stay the hell away from the bar.
I have more thoughts on this but I’m tired as hell and have to go to physical therapy. Good luck homey.
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Might just burn some leave and try to fly someplace…just get away from everything. And Prof X, damn you for hurting my head with the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence stuff! lol[/quote]
Yeah, I went backpacking around Europe for a month and a bit just recently. I was very happy when doing it, I’ll admit.
Worth it. Just not the answer.
Cheers,
Spry.
[quote]Rattler wrote:
masonator wrote:
i hate to hijack this thread, but why the fuck does this thread’s URL say: http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/music_movies_girls_life/october_girl_naked
october girl naked??? LMFAO
Wtf b?[/quote]
Because I’m a funny bastard even when depressed.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Spry wrote:
I always thought that those who desired to know ‘WHY’ we are on this planet were stupid - we just are.
Now I’m asking that same question.
Spry.
Well then, the last thing you would want to hear is that spirituality is a part of who we are so ignoring even the possibility of there being a reason would mean you believe the world revolves around chaos and the random occasional manifestation of order by pure accident.
I don’t see why people who think that way aren’t depressed 24/7.
May the debate start now.[/quote]
I found that focusing a bit on spiritual developement has helped me to stay present and be in the moment of life as it happens.
This allows me to do my best with what I have, which is now. When the moment sucks, it sucks for a lot less time. When it is good, I’m able to enjoy it for what it is, rather than worry about what happened in the past or what may or may not happen down the road.
Life has become much more enjoyable and fulfilling since then.
Try hitting her
[quote]Professor X wrote:
IQ wrote:
Professor X wrote:
IQ wrote:
There’s either a master plan or there isn’t, no sitting on the fence allowed.
What I’m saying is that the “Master Plan” could very well involve both outcomes. We have simply accepted that “destiny” requires choice to be irrelevant. I don’t think that is the case. I think it is up to you whether you actually fulfill that destiny and that is where the “choices” lie.
Well I guess that could be a possibility but then that raises the question of how detailed the “Master Plan” actually is. If the master plan allows for you as an individual to change the outcome of your life, how important is the outcome of your life to the master plan?
I’ve honestly always thought that CHOICE was the point of it all, not specifically the end result.[/quote]
That’s a much healthier way to view things.
I would say that was more a case of being presented with opportunities rather than whether you fulfill your destiny, but that’s just semantics.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t see why people who think that way aren’t depressed 24/7.[/quote]
When I abandoned religion and all that, I made a conscious decision not to think about it. Agnosticism is cool like that. I plead ignorance and move on with my life.
I think if we’ve learned anything from science it’s that the universe doesn’t deal in absolutes. So I look at things as they relate to my life and my perception of the world.
[quote]wfifer wrote:
Professor X wrote:
I don’t see why people who think that way aren’t depressed 24/7.
When I abandoned religion and all that, I made a conscious decision not to think about it. Agnosticism is cool like that. I plead ignorance and move on with my life.
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Agnostics are the pussy versions of atheists.