You know what? GOOD. If every girl had a brother like that maybe virtually every woman in America wouldn’t have a story to tell about some guy acting like either a sociopath or a rapist.
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While I don’t condone vigilante justice, I think this is more than appropriate for what that douche did tbh. karma’s a bitch - in my opinion dude deserved worse than an ass whooping, but here we are…
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Nothing wrong with that at all. Asshat had it coming for sure.
Well… this thread escalated quickly!
In my America, your brother would get a medal.
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Well we live in America so it’s a win win lol
I agree that him leaving you pass out drunk behind dumbsters is a horrible thing. Without any question that makes the man a horrible person.
Nevertheless (before you all pick me apart please note that I am not justifying or defending the man)) why are you getting so drunk on a date?
Why are you blaming him “He made me drunk” - as an adult you should be held responsible for your alcohol intake.
I seriously can’t understand why everyone is cheering that your brother beat him senseless. Especially online that kind of violence gets downplayed a lot. One bad hit or bad landing and someone could bei either dead or paralyzed or mentally disabled for life. Would you all still think that would be justified?
I am not perfect, I have beaten up people and like to think it was justified, but I am not sure that this should easily be seen as a heroic act, no matter if istjustified or not.
And again, I am not trying to attack you, @planetcybertron. I am a little baffled by the reactions here.
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He left her passed out behind a dumpster…
As I stated - that is horrible.
But ist blind raged violance by a man who “shoots first and asks questions later” the appropriate reaction?
I am not so sure. I wasn’t there I am not the man to judge. Still I think you all are quick to celebrate an act of violence that could easily have gotten out of control.
It’s her brother not some random male friend. It seems like an appropriate response to me. If someone left my sister behind a dumpster and I knew where he was I’d beat the fuck out of him too.
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As I understand he didn’t drug @planetcybertron . That would be a completely different scenario for me.
I respect your opinion that it was justified, don’t get me wrong. I also see where you are coming from with it.
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TIL Alcohol isn’t a drug. good to know. Thanks bud for spreading the good word.
let me ask you a question. What do you think the appropriate response is. If you already answered. please restate. I’m not digging through previous posts…
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I agree that she put herself in a bad situation. It’s not the sex or the feeding her drinks part that bothers me. I believe people are responsible for their own actions and from her account, it sounds like she was a willing participant.
It’s the leaving her alone in a compromised state and just bouncing having gotten what he wanted that bothers me.
*You don’t treat a human being like that. I don’t care if it’s a booty call or not. It’s just fucked up.
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I meant as in put roofies in a drink and you knew that. If someone ist voluntarely drinking alcohol than that person ist not drugged by someone else.
As for an appropriate response - I am not sure, I admit that
I agree 100% with you in this.
And yet you chose to use the word “drug” when you could have easily typed out “roofie” - words matter homie as much as you wish they didn’t. They do. If you want to communicate clearly, then do so, otherwise you’ll run into situations like this. Not my problem it’s yours - I’m not a mind reader nor do I play one on TV.
Fair. I personally agree it’s not an appropriate response given I’m a bystander after the fact. However, given the circumstances I certainly can empathize with her brother and completely understand his response.
I also think of the other sceanios that could have played out. 1 of which, that I considered, results in potentially another girl being led to excessive drinking and being left behind a dumpster, and so on.
Another is the guy gets “charged” but I don’t think any prosecution takes place. I can’t see a crime here tbh - at least not one that’ll be adjudicated in any meaningful way.
The other scenario, the one which allegedly took place, applies DIRECT consequences for endangering another person. No life was lost and it introduces a consequence for future shitty behavior. While unlawful, it’s certainly understandable and has a greater chance of ensuring this individual at least thinks twice before doing this type of thing again. No?
OK I’ll pay more attention to language. Not as an excuse but please note for fairness that you would phrase this very different in my native language.
I can absolutely see where you are coming from. I do actually agree with you.
Both of what you say here, I agree on.
I think this would actually be a crime where I live called “unterlassene Hilfeleistung” which roughly translated to ‘denied help’.
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Ahh. I knew that was a question that was going to come up.
More like was getting drunk on a date. I’m married now, so I’ve had a chance to reevaluate myself. This happened a few years ago. And it’s exactly what you think it is. Me being young and trying to exercise being 21 and able to drink.
I’m blaming him for ditching me. While I did say to call a cab for a chick if you’re going to get her drunk, I also know he wasn’t twisting my wrist and forcing me to drink. But the dynamics of that entire situation suggested that you straight up shouldn’t ditch someone who’s inebriated. Man or woman. Could I have slowed down and monitored how much I was drinking? Yupp. But combine the excitement of going on a date, trying to seem cool, calm and collected, AND being a young 21 year old with a not-so-developed perspective and you can eventually understand. Now, it would’ve been that much more stupid if I was buying myself my own drinks and blamed him and stated he made me drunk. I agree with you on that.
Everyone could’ve scolded me for sitting there and watching. Everyone could’ve said I should have been watching what I was drinking. Everyone could’ve told me I should’ve stumbled over to the bouncer and had a cab called for me. But that guy seemed relatively normal, and by normal I mean decently well mannered, or even the minimal amount of courteous. The whole basis of this was that it was “date”. I could’ve said late night hookup, but you get where I’m going with it.
Which is why i decided to put this instance in this thread.
More than likely not. Depends on what side of perspective you’re viewing this on. But again, it’s why I decided to post it in this thread. I think a heroic act would be if another guy called me a cab. But he’d probably spill out how much of an idiotic thing that was to do in the first place, or if it was an older lady she probably would’ve explained until the cows came home how nothing about that instance is “lady-like” or “respectable”. But we’ve all been 21. So I rest my case.
This sums up why Im not blaming the guy for buying me drinks.
This sums up why I lost my rationale.
It’s a multi sided thing, that kind of has a similar answer. On one hand a guy buying me drinks doesn’t mean I can freely drink as much as I want without monitoring myself. On the other, just because a lady has had too much to drink doesn’t mean that’s the green light to just say, ehh, whatever. Just because there are instance where “should’ve, would’ve, could’ve” weren’t the focal points of people’s decision making, doesn’t mean you throw all other reasoning out of the window. I’m just as guilty of being careless, as that guy was of being more or less a dickhead. That guy shouldn’t have left me, but he did. It would’ve been an even more playing field if I tried to accuse that guy of rape. (Even for him) But I didn’t. Because that would’ve been straight up lying and hiding from my own lack of judgement. I just took a left and got back at him for leaving me. Tit for Tat. If that puts it more into perspective.
I’ve learned not to do that. Punishment: being left somewhere looking a hot mess.
He learned not to do that: Punishment: getting his ass stomped.
But I understand your questions. They’re not invalid. And I’m not upset or offended.
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This was a very well written response, thanks a lot for that.
We seem to be on the same page.
Again, I am feeling like I am coming off as an arsehole here. I never intended to offend or hurt you. Sorry if it came across this way.
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Nah. No worries.
The main reason why I was even able to respond well to you in the first place is because after my brother and I left, he brought up the exact same points you did. And my response was exactly what I said here.
After that he just nodded as we drove off.
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