Checking in after a long time trying to puzzle the pieces together. What is the typical weight gain from primo at 400/mg week? How likely is it that primo is faked as tren? I gained 10-11KG during 12-16 weeks. When I had bloodwork done two months after it showed liver toxicity, which i find strange if primo and at such a low dose. I heard it’s often boldenone and some other compound, which would explain the liver toxicity. I felt very euphoric during the cycle, if that adds any value.
All PED’s are liver toxic and can raise your liver enzyme values. Orals are the most notorious. The determining factor is the compound you use - is it more harsh or less?
It can be faked with a bunch or stuff. EQ, Test P, Mast. Straight tren would surprise me. It would be pretty obvious to experienced users. That lab wouldn’t be around long.
I took some anavar for a couple weeks no test base (i know stupid as fuck). I’m thinking boldenone or anti estrogen properties of primo messed me up sort of like post aromatase inhibitor syndrome. I know orals are liver toxic but the extent my liver was affected just doesn’t make sense.
Do you have before and after pics in similar lighting? I just doubt you could gain that type of weight on EQ and Anavar at those dosages. Perhaps if you were undertrained? Perhaps if you gained a lot of fat. 10 KG is a ton if it is reasonably clean gains. Doing that on 400 mg or EQ, or Primo is not likely. It is possible if it was something that converted to E2, and you are prone to holding a lot of water.
It is faked with Test P a lot, because the PIP is similar. Primo is known to have PIP. EQ not so much. In general long esters have less PIP, and EQ has a very long ester.
I don’t have any proper pictures, but i do remember my joints started getting fucked and after the cycle my hips knees every joint was fucked up (low e2?). My libidio also died during the cycle and I had no sensitivity in my dick, although I still got morning wood pretty regurarly. Forced myself to jerk it once as I realised i lost my libido and felt like I was cumming sawdust, hurt like hell. Now I have watery semen alot with clumps of semen in it, very strange consistency and still zero libido. I did have some PIP which I never got with test. Hmmm, prop, but what could the joint issues come from post cycle you reckon?
No such thing as typical. It depends on the user 100%.
Not likely. Tren is dark yellow/orange. Its the only drug you can tell by the color.
Hard to tell about this. If you are a “cycle on/cycle off” type of guy and by default are on the small side, this kind of gain could be normal with any cycle, keeping in mind that 80% of that weight is what you had on a previous cycle.
For example, a person who is 250lbs lean, with a good experience in AAS, would not gain that amount of weight in that time even on 5grams of gear total. Skinny guys doing 3months on 3months off could fluctuate like that even on just test.
The weight gain says it would probably be Test E.
Yes. This makes the most sense as faking goes, as boldenone acts super similar but is half the price. Boldenone actually is often called “poor mans primo”.
No it wouldnt as boldenone is one of the mildest steroids there is.
All steroids are somewhat toxic tho.
This explains the liver toxicity.
No test no cycle. The sides above are not because of what was in your primo, or if it was primo, but because you didnt do double dose of test with whatever you were taking.
When I mean typical i’m speaking more of common weight gain from primobolan. Some compunds like deca for instance are more bulk mass builders for instance right? The amount of time I ran anavar just doesn’t add up to the hepatoxicity I experienced. I’ve ran dbol and winny together no issues. Yes not running test I believe was what fucked me up.
Thats just a somewhat urban legend.
You see, people will say - tren is good for cutting and deca is good for bulking, and what they do is eat super clean and low kcal on tren, and then eat pizza on deca.
Then they kinda blame the bloat of 6000kcal worth of junkfood on deca. I have been fat as shit on tren, cuz i bulked on it.
I believe a person can cut on deca and anadrol. In fact, in the older times, “cutting steroids” were not that popular and people actually did cut on dbol.
All the sides, aside from weight gain, can be low e2. Weight gain…no idea. Then again we all react differently. My e2 can be 30, can be 300, i dont look nor feel any different. Never had any e2 or prolactin related sides. Any. Ever.
Some people take 200mgs of test, bloat like a baloon and their dick falls off. Its a tricky thing.
