What Happened to T-Nation?

Level 0’s bitching about the forum going downhill.

[quote]anonym wrote:
Level 0’s bitching about the forum going downhill.[/quote]

Who even looks at that? Did your mom make you a badge with your level on it?

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]NeelyDan wrote:
neelydan’s still here, y’all can call off the dogs[/quote]

That’s a relief. I didn’t think you’d been banned. I thought Thebodyguard found you and killed you.

Are you sure it’s really you?[/quote]

It’s a troll pretending to be Dano. Post a picture of your wife making a goofy face, if it’s really you.

<— Has levels and is also wondering about the wasteland that PW now is.

[quote]pushmepullme wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]OnMyOwn32 wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]dirtman wrote:

[quote]benchaffleck wrote:

[quote]Mod Phoenix wrote:
Forums erased? We have more subforums now than ever.

Have you checked the “Edit Visible Forums” link in your Hub? (You can find it in your Hub as an option below your profile picture.)[/quote]

What happened to “sex and the male animal.” Can’t find that one. I’ve been following you guys ever since TC was a writer for Muscle Media 2000 back in 1994. He and other writers (like Duchaine) always had a candid style and weren’t afraid to talk about sex and other similar “sensitive” topics while shunning the whole politically-correct, publicly accepted/neutered mentality.

So has that happened to T-Nation? has it become the web equivalent of a tame eunuch? I enjoy having a libido and a sick sense of humor. that’s what made the greatest generation great- they had testosterone and machismo. With all the bisphenol-A and dumbing-down of our natural instincts instincts, we are all well on our way to being complacent, fat, ignorant cry babies.

Did someone’s mommy find out they were talking about sex or looking at pics of a girl’s ass or breasts on this site? Did somebody’s peach-fuzz sack, pubescecnt kid wander into the wrong forum and now they’re suing because little Timmy is scarred for life?[/quote]

I agree, something happened some place for this radical change in policy. I would love to hear it right from the horses mouth. TC should make a comment on this directly if he makes drastic changes to the site like that. I consider this place like home. This is a sad day really it is.
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I agree with this whole heartedly. It appears that things have changed and been cleaned up or modified. If there has been a change in format or audience, it should be addressed.
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Couldn’t agree more. [/quote]

So far, to my eyes, it looks like a lot of the women. However, I’m sure there are men missing and I just haven’t noticed.[/quote]

x3[/quote]

x4

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
So far, to my eyes, it looks like a lot of the women. However, I’m sure there are men missing and I just haven’t noticed.[/quote]

Because its called TESTOSTERONE NATION. Duh.

Clearly it was because they couldn’t make a proper sammich. I’m like 99% sure there’s even a sammich clause in the terms of use when you sign up.

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:
Level 0’s bitching about the forum going downhill.[/quote]

Who even looks at that? Did your mom make you a badge with your level on it?
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Haha, because what protein you use determines your opinion of a discussion forum, duh.

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:
Level 0’s bitching about the forum going downhill.[/quote]

Who even looks at that? Did your mom make you a badge with your level on it?[/quote]

I never look at it when it comes to forum-specific TOPICS (e.g., nutrition, bodybuilding, etc.).

However, if a bunch of people who have never spent a penny on a site run by a supplement company start complaining about the ways in which the company is changing the forum to better their business model… what the fuck are you expecting?

Biotest is a business. T-Nation is a clever advertising tool. If you aren’t contributing to their revenue stream, why should your opinion necessarily matter?

What makes you think you are “owed” anything?

Not sure what is so complicated about it.

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:
Level 0’s bitching about the forum going downhill.[/quote]

Who even looks at that? Did your mom make you a badge with your level on it?
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Haha, because what protein you use determines your opinion of a discussion forum, duh.[/quote]

Please.

I don’t have a problem with specific issues regarding site navigation and such. Those are technical issues that remain factual concerns to anyone attempting to visit this place.

However, if you want to complain about changes in atmosphere or argue that you “deserve” something from the Boss Men, you are really going to have a hard time with that if you haven’t put a penny in their pocket all the years you are here.

Sorry if that stings. If you weren’t a Level 0, I’m sure your otherwise rational, business-oriented mind would agree.

First right of refusal

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:
Level 0’s bitching about the forum going downhill.[/quote]

Who even looks at that? Did your mom make you a badge with your level on it?
[/quote]
Haha, because what protein you use determines your opinion of a discussion forum, duh.[/quote]

I think he was pointing out the irony in people that don’t contribute a single dollar to the site’s bottom line feel their opinions should have merit.

[quote]LowfatMatt wrote:

[quote]IronWarrior34 wrote:
sooo SAMA and Get A Life are no loger going to be threads???[/quote]

Forum Categories, you mean? No, they are still available via the FORUMS menu above. They’re just not on the main Forums page anymore.

Like I said, we haven’t deleted anything. Just moved things around.[/quote]

You’ve deleted access to some forums.

[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:
Level 0’s bitching about the forum going downhill.[/quote]

Who even looks at that? Did your mom make you a badge with your level on it?[/quote]

I never look at it when it comes to forum-specific TOPICS (e.g., nutrition, bodybuilding, etc.).

However, if a bunch of people who have never spent a penny on a site run by a supplement company start complaining about the ways in which the company is changing the forum to better their business model… what the fuck are you expecting?

Biotest is a business. T-Nation is a clever advertising tool. If you aren’t contributing to their revenue stream, why should your opinion necessarily matter?

What makes you think you are “owed” anything?

Not sure what is so complicated about it.[/quote]

It’s not complicated. It just seems a bit silly to point out. It’s not the first time I’ve heard it and it never gets any less foolish sounding every time I do.

Some people’s opinions are noted because they have something worth saying; not because they have laid out cash.

Because this site has been around a considerable length of time and many members have used it that long, changes are noted and people ask why. Why not just address the changes when people ask? This may be a revenue generator but it is also a community that draws people in. You can’t isolate it to one person who hasn’t spent money is asking questions. Many people are asking.

Here, let me rephrase so it is a little less insulting to those who feel their opinions might be trivialized:

Buncha loiterers hangin’ around Barnes and Noble complaining about the new aisle and chair arrangements making their loitering and literary leechings more uncomfortable and expecting the Mr. Barnes and Mr. Noble to take their concerns into consideration as much as the book-buying customers who comment on the ways in which the new layout impacts their shopping experience.

Cool story, brahs.

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:
Level 0’s bitching about the forum going downhill.[/quote]

Who even looks at that? Did your mom make you a badge with your level on it?
[/quote]
Haha, because what protein you use determines your opinion of a discussion forum, duh.[/quote]

I think he was pointing out the irony in people that don’t contribute a single dollar to the site’s bottom line feel their opinions should have merit. [/quote]

Hey, now.

It’s supposed to be much more complicated to grasp than that.

But, then… as someone who actually spends money on this site, I’m sure you have no reason to jump through hoops to rationalize why your opinion should matter as much as everyone else’s.

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:
Level 0’s bitching about the forum going downhill.[/quote]

Who even looks at that? Did your mom make you a badge with your level on it?[/quote]

I never look at it when it comes to forum-specific TOPICS (e.g., nutrition, bodybuilding, etc.).

However, if a bunch of people who have never spent a penny on a site run by a supplement company start complaining about the ways in which the company is changing the forum to better their business model… what the fuck are you expecting?

Biotest is a business. T-Nation is a clever advertising tool. If you aren’t contributing to their revenue stream, why should your opinion necessarily matter?

What makes you think you are “owed” anything?

Not sure what is so complicated about it.[/quote]

It’s not complicated. It just seems a bit silly to point out. It’s not the first time I’ve heard it and it never gets any less foolish sounding every time I do.

Some people’s opinions are noted because they have something worth saying; not because they have laid out cash.

It’s understood that this is a business venture but 'tards with cash are not necessarily the ones worth listening to.[/quote]

Oh come on…you gotta admit the QUALITY posts on this site made by non-Biotest customers are exceedingly few and far between…

One only had to click through a couple pages in any thread in the cesspool that was PWI and SAMA (which also happened to take up the most bandwidth on the site…I never realized how many pointless responses could be generated in the span of a few hours…how on earth does a thread about shaving your ballsack get more responses on a weightlifting website than a recap from the Arnold?) to see all the non-contributors “contributing” to that section.

I’m not sure what is even remotely silly or foolish about that argument.

Those Level 0’s taking up bandwidth and demanding to be catered to are nothing more than parasites…if removing some of the “popular” forums cleans them out so actual customers can enjoy the website/company more, I am all for it.

[quote]simpstr1 wrote:

[quote]LowfatMatt wrote:

[quote]IronWarrior34 wrote:
sooo SAMA and Get A Life are no loger going to be threads???[/quote]

Forum Categories, you mean? No, they are still available via the FORUMS menu above. They’re just not on the main Forums page anymore.

Like I said, we haven’t deleted anything. Just moved things around.[/quote]

You’ve deleted access to some forums.[/quote]

We have now, yes. We hadn’t at the time this was posted.

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]OnMyOwn32 wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]dirtman wrote:

[quote]benchaffleck wrote:

[quote]Mod Phoenix wrote:
Forums erased? We have more subforums now than ever.

Have you checked the “Edit Visible Forums” link in your Hub? (You can find it in your Hub as an option below your profile picture.)[/quote]

What happened to “sex and the male animal.” Can’t find that one. I’ve been following you guys ever since TC was a writer for Muscle Media 2000 back in 1994. He and other writers (like Duchaine) always had a candid style and weren’t afraid to talk about sex and other similar “sensitive” topics while shunning the whole politically-correct, publicly accepted/neutered mentality.

So has that happened to T-Nation? has it become the web equivalent of a tame eunuch? I enjoy having a libido and a sick sense of humor. that’s what made the greatest generation great- they had testosterone and machismo. With all the bisphenol-A and dumbing-down of our natural instincts instincts, we are all well on our way to being complacent, fat, ignorant cry babies.

Did someone’s mommy find out they were talking about sex or looking at pics of a girl’s ass or breasts on this site? Did somebody’s peach-fuzz sack, pubescecnt kid wander into the wrong forum and now they’re suing because little Timmy is scarred for life?[/quote]

I agree, something happened some place for this radical change in policy. I would love to hear it right from the horses mouth. TC should make a comment on this directly if he makes drastic changes to the site like that. I consider this place like home. This is a sad day really it is.
[/quote]

I agree with this whole heartedly. It appears that things have changed and been cleaned up or modified. If there has been a change in format or audience, it should be addressed.
[/quote]

Couldn’t agree more. [/quote]

So far, to my eyes, it looks like a lot of the women. However, I’m sure there are men missing and I just haven’t noticed.[/quote]

Wait!..there are women on this site?

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:
Level 0’s bitching about the forum going downhill.[/quote]

Who even looks at that? Did your mom make you a badge with your level on it?[/quote]

I never look at it when it comes to forum-specific TOPICS (e.g., nutrition, bodybuilding, etc.).

However, if a bunch of people who have never spent a penny on a site run by a supplement company start complaining about the ways in which the company is changing the forum to better their business model… what the fuck are you expecting?

Biotest is a business. T-Nation is a clever advertising tool. If you aren’t contributing to their revenue stream, why should your opinion necessarily matter?

What makes you think you are “owed” anything?

Not sure what is so complicated about it.[/quote]

It’s not complicated. It just seems a bit silly to point out. It’s not the first time I’ve heard it and it never gets any less foolish sounding every time I do.

Some people’s opinions are noted because they have something worth saying; not because they have laid out cash.

It’s understood that this is a business venture but 'tards with cash are not necessarily the ones worth listening to.[/quote]

Well, when someone “considers this place a home” but makes no monetary to keep the gas flowing, electricity zapping, water streaming, roof from leaking, lawn from overgrowing, etc., etc… then gee friggin’ whiz when the people who DO find his concerns to be shrug-worthy.

To refuse to admit that it is a little bit silly is what is REALLY foolish.

Levels don’t really mean anything if you shop from a different account than you post from. To my knowledge lots of people do this, myself included.

so Matt -

can I ask a stupid question?

is SAMA a thing of the past at this point?