What Happened to T-Nation?

[quote]2busy wrote:
It’s time to move on…[/quote]

You know, it’s not easy to move on when some questions haven’t been answered to a certain extent.

I don’t give a shit about SAMA being scrapped – I get that some cheating scums needed to cover their tracks and admins had to clear the shit. Fine – but banning up to 10 or so prominent women, who were passionate about lifting and inspired other female lurkers out there, with no explanations will make people wonder.

At least let the women know why the fuck they got the boot.

[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

I agree, I do feel bad for innocent victims, just not compartmentalizing sleazies.[/quote]

I feel the same way, although I would like to know what happened to Charlie Horse. I have only been on these forums a very short time, but she seemed to be very sweet and level headed and not the type to do the kind of things the mods were talking about.[/quote]

This is the type of thing I was referring to that the mods did not nor will not address. You stated that they alluded to what happened to the members that were cut off but clearly they have not.

You may be a long time lurker but given your join date I can only assume that you haven’t noted the posting history of a number of the people who have been cut off.

My opinion is that the sweeping ban was draconian.[/quote]

Yes, it does appear somewhat draconian on the outside, but we don’t know what is going on behind the scenes.

Maybe they overreacted to whatever situation they are dealing with which most of us don’t know about? Could be, but I still want to give the benefit of the doubt as I don’t really know what they are reacting to.[/quote]

I have somewhat of a clue about what the situation may be about as I’m in contact with most of the people that got boffed off. There are grey areas for certain but there are a number who posted predominantly in PW who really are stunned and angry.

As for Hallowed, I found her funny as shit and pretty upbeat. I loved reading her training log and seeing the changes she had made after she got her thyroid issue under control.

To FightnIrish, it may be about gun running but is more likely related to the long ago disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa. Some things were never meant to be public.

[quote]RBlue wrote:

[quote]2busy wrote:

It’s a mute point now anyhow.
[/quote]

Oh God, people! It’s MOOT point, not mute point.

(Sorry, didn’t mean to pick on you 2busy… your post was the proverbial straw)

Back to lurking…[/quote]

hahaha. I didn’t want to be the spelling nazi to pick on that one but it’s like fingernails on a black board. I seriously wish some of the crap was mute :slight_smile:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]2busy wrote:
It’s time to move on…[/quote]

5 stages of grief! You don’t tell me when I’ve reached acceptance!

[/quote]

Yeah, I had the same thought!

Busy, can I at least have till the beginning of next week?

This on top of my jet lag is no laughing matter!

[/quote]Don’t worry you old bastard, I’m still here.
[/quote]
And I’m grateful for the entertaining reminders of why I try to live with character and class.[/quote]
I love you too you grumpy old coot.

[quote]RBlue wrote:

[quote]2busy wrote:

It’s a mute point now anyhow.
[/quote]

Oh God, people! It’s MOOT point, not mute point.

(Sorry, didn’t mean to pick on you 2busy… your post was the proverbial straw)

Back to lurking…[/quote]

Oops…

I stand corrected, and thanks RBlue…

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]RBlue wrote:

[quote]2busy wrote:

It’s a mute point now anyhow.
[/quote]

Oh God, people! It’s MOOT point, not mute point.

(Sorry, didn’t mean to pick on you 2busy… your post was the proverbial straw)

Back to lurking…[/quote]

hahaha. I didn’t want to be the spelling nazi to pick on that one but it’s like fingernails on a black board. I seriously wish some of the crap was mute :slight_smile:
[/quote]

Sigh… One little mistake…

[quote]2busy wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]RBlue wrote:

[quote]2busy wrote:

It’s a mute point now anyhow.
[/quote]

Oh God, people! It’s MOOT point, not mute point.

(Sorry, didn’t mean to pick on you 2busy… your post was the proverbial straw)

Back to lurking…[/quote]

hahaha. I didn’t want to be the spelling nazi to pick on that one but it’s like fingernails on a black board. I seriously wish some of the crap was mute :slight_smile:
[/quote]

Sigh… One little mistake…
[/quote]

Sorry :slight_smile:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

I agree, I do feel bad for innocent victims, just not compartmentalizing sleazies.[/quote]

I feel the same way, although I would like to know what happened to Charlie Horse. I have only been on these forums a very short time, but she seemed to be very sweet and level headed and not the type to do the kind of things the mods were talking about.[/quote]

This is the type of thing I was referring to that the mods did not nor will not address. You stated that they alluded to what happened to the members that were cut off but clearly they have not.

You may be a long time lurker but given your join date I can only assume that you haven’t noted the posting history of a number of the people who have been cut off.

My opinion is that the sweeping ban was draconian.[/quote]

Yes, it does appear somewhat draconian on the outside, but we don’t know what is going on behind the scenes.

Maybe they overreacted to whatever situation they are dealing with which most of us don’t know about? Could be, but I still want to give the benefit of the doubt as I don’t really know what they are reacting to.[/quote]

I have somewhat of a clue about what the situation may be about as I’m in contact with most of the people that got boffed off. There are grey areas for certain but there are a number who posted predominantly in PW who really are stunned and angry.

As for Hallowed, I found her funny as shit and pretty upbeat. I loved reading her training log and seeing the changes she had made after she got her thyroid issue under control.

To FightnIrish, it may be about gun running but is more likely related to the long ago disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa. Some things were never meant to be public.
[/quote]

I don’t blame them for being stunned or angry if what I know is anywhere near the truth. The bloviated cretin who started this got what they wanted in a way.

However, I still say give TN time to sort out any repercussions from this mess. Do they owe those that were booted explanations. Not really. It would be the polite thing to do, but I suspect TN is getting advice from people who are privy to all of the details.

[quote]Christine wrote:
bloviated [/quote]

Bloviated? Holy crap, guys, these vixens (that are left) are schooling us. Where the heck is my dictionary?

[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

I agree, I do feel bad for innocent victims, just not compartmentalizing sleazies.[/quote]

I feel the same way, although I would like to know what happened to Charlie Horse. I have only been on these forums a very short time, but she seemed to be very sweet and level headed and not the type to do the kind of things the mods were talking about.[/quote]

This is the type of thing I was referring to that the mods did not nor will not address. You stated that they alluded to what happened to the members that were cut off but clearly they have not.

You may be a long time lurker but given your join date I can only assume that you haven’t noted the posting history of a number of the people who have been cut off.

My opinion is that the sweeping ban was draconian.[/quote]

Yes, it does appear somewhat draconian on the outside, but we don’t know what is going on behind the scenes.

Maybe they overreacted to whatever situation they are dealing with which most of us don’t know about? Could be, but I still want to give the benefit of the doubt as I don’t really know what they are reacting to.[/quote]

I have somewhat of a clue about what the situation may be about as I’m in contact with most of the people that got boffed off. There are grey areas for certain but there are a number who posted predominantly in PW who really are stunned and angry.

As for Hallowed, I found her funny as shit and pretty upbeat. I loved reading her training log and seeing the changes she had made after she got her thyroid issue under control.

To FightnIrish, it may be about gun running but is more likely related to the long ago disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa. Some things were never meant to be public.
[/quote]

I don’t blame them for being stunned or angry if what I know is anywhere near the truth. The bloviated cretin who started this got what they wanted in a way.

However, I still say give TN time to sort out any repercussions from this mess. Do they owe those that were booted explanations. Not really. It would be the polite thing to do, but I suspect TN is getting advice from people who are privy to all of the details.[/quote]
Rumors are like assholes, full of shit, especially when formulated by the intestine itself.

Overall truths can certainly be gleaned but who knows what is edited, omitted, ignored, blantantly lied about et cetera when hearing info. by the spurned party. Stories always have two or more sides.

[quote]RBlue wrote:

[quote]2busy wrote:

It’s a mute point now anyhow.
[/quote]

Oh God, people! It’s MOOT point, not mute point.

(Sorry, didn’t mean to pick on you 2busy… your post was the proverbial straw)

Back to lurking…[/quote]

Stop lurking ! :slight_smile:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]Christine wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

I agree, I do feel bad for innocent victims, just not compartmentalizing sleazies.[/quote]

I feel the same way, although I would like to know what happened to Charlie Horse. I have only been on these forums a very short time, but she seemed to be very sweet and level headed and not the type to do the kind of things the mods were talking about.[/quote]

This is the type of thing I was referring to that the mods did not nor will not address. You stated that they alluded to what happened to the members that were cut off but clearly they have not.

You may be a long time lurker but given your join date I can only assume that you haven’t noted the posting history of a number of the people who have been cut off.

My opinion is that the sweeping ban was draconian.[/quote]

Yes, it does appear somewhat draconian on the outside, but we don’t know what is going on behind the scenes.

Maybe they overreacted to whatever situation they are dealing with which most of us don’t know about? Could be, but I still want to give the benefit of the doubt as I don’t really know what they are reacting to.[/quote]

I have somewhat of a clue about what the situation may be about as I’m in contact with most of the people that got boffed off. There are grey areas for certain but there are a number who posted predominantly in PW who really are stunned and angry.

As for Hallowed, I found her funny as shit and pretty upbeat. I loved reading her training log and seeing the changes she had made after she got her thyroid issue under control.

To FightnIrish, it may be about gun running but is more likely related to the long ago disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa. Some things were never meant to be public.
[/quote]

I don’t blame them for being stunned or angry if what I know is anywhere near the truth. The bloviated cretin who started this got what they wanted in a way.

However, I still say give TN time to sort out any repercussions from this mess. Do they owe those that were booted explanations. Not really. It would be the polite thing to do, but I suspect TN is getting advice from people who are privy to all of the details.[/quote]
Rumors are like assholes, full of shit, especially when formulated by the intestine itself.

Overall truths can certainly be gleaned but who knows what is edited, omitted, ignored, blantantly lied about et cetera when hearing info. by the spurned party. Stories always have two or more sides.[/quote]

Which is why I want to give TN the benefit of the doubt.

Not the bloviated cretin though.

That being said, Free Chuck Please!

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]RBlue wrote:

[quote]2busy wrote:

It’s a mute point now anyhow.
[/quote]

Oh God, people! It’s MOOT point, not mute point.

(Sorry, didn’t mean to pick on you 2busy… your post was the proverbial straw)

Back to lurking…[/quote]

Stop lurking ! :)[/quote]

Hey, at least I got RBlue to stop lurking for a moment!

DONNA MARTIN GRADUATES

Oh my God, Christine, your avi has me dying.

[quote]NeelyDan wrote:
DONNA MARTIN GRADUATES[/quote]

I hate that I remember exactly what you’re referring to.

With all due respect to the Ladies that have been raptured away. I don’t see anyone writing about the guys that vanished on the same day. I mean people did get placed in a trap with a “Blue Steel” and may be feeling some heat from that. But some guys just vanished that didn’t seem to be apart of anything but conversations in other threads.

Who knows.

I get the feeling the powers that be will let this thread go for a while then kill it and things will go on.

Another mystery for the web gods to figure.

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
Oh my God, Christine, your avi has me dying.[/quote]
x2

[quote]Christine wrote:
The bloviated cretin who started this got what they wanted in a way. [/quote]

That might just have clued me in to what happened (more or less). It explains everything that’s happened. Discussing it any more would be asking for Pandora’s Box to be opened a second time, since privacy issues seem to be at the root of the bans, so I’ll say no more.

I think we should all follow Biotest’s lead and draw a line under this. I understand that it’s a highly emotional issue for many, and people want answers, but I get the sense that emotions running amok is why we are here now.