What Happened to T-Nation?

This situation has NOTHING to do with what Level you are, nor with whether or not you have purchased.

It is pure and simple:

If the content of our site is causing us to lose credibility as a leading resource in our industry, we will remove the content.

IF users are banned, we are not going to have a dialog about it on the Forums. If we determine that a member is causing overt chaos and diverting our efforts from our core business, we reserve the right to manage these users appropriately.

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

And the articles are solid, they’re how I found this place one fateful day googling deadlifting in a finance class.[/quote]

This very point is why we’re cleaning up our content. We want everyone to have the ability to find us while Googling in Finance class.

[quote]LowfatMatt wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

And the articles are solid, they’re how I found this place one fateful day googling deadlifting in a finance class.[/quote]

This very point is why we’re cleaning up our content. We want everyone to have the ability to find us while Googling in Finance class.[/quote]
And I totally get it. Shit’s way better than some old broad droning about yield to maturity formulas outlined in a $300 book anyways.

I’m just happy with the click through.

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
You’re still missing the point. It isn’t just the products that draw people to the site. It’s the people; some of whom may or may not be purchasers. However, they draw people that purchase.
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Yeah… keep trying to convince us that all those Level 0’s out there are drawing as many CUSTOMERS as Professor X, MODOK, Stu, Waylander, CC, H4M et al.

The people who come here strictly to see a half-exposed ass in the dredges of this site, or to see how many inane cat pictures get posted, are certainly NOT the people who are going to make lasting customers when compared to the number of customers drawn here because of – crazily enough, I know – the WEIGHT-LIFTING aspect of this site.

Check SAMA and check PWI to get a general sense of how much cash the prolific post-spammers contribute. Certainly, you will find it to be much less than those who are regular contributors to the “main” forums. And, oddly enough, those exact same people who rack up 10+ posts per day manage to do it CONSISTENTLY in areas that are NOT related to the main themes of this site.

But, yeah, they get to argue about “atmosphere” changes without anyone being allowed to shake their heads and chuckle.[/quote]

has anyone mentioned that while they might like the site and the articles they might already have a preferred supplement company they use? I didn’t realize that using Biotest stuff was a requirement for frequenting this site.[/quote]

Agree. I like the articles, the community, and reading/learning from the different perspectives on training in the BB thread. Although I’ve got my staple supps company, I have another account got that I use to buy some stuff from here, but only when I’m in the States, as it makes shipping easier.

So that ‘‘levels 0 have no say in the matters of this site’’ makes me chuckle. Anyway, let’s not make it a big deal. Change happens and obviously, it’d take a while to some to question it, to resist it before finally adapting or leaving. Such is life.

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

Where’s CH?? Charlie Horse, if you’re reading this, just post to lemme know you’re still around.

Ktnxbai[/quote]

She’s around, but is unable to post.

[quote]LowfatMatt wrote:
This situation has NOTHING to do with what Level you are, nor with whether or not you have purchased.

It is pure and simple:

If the content of our site is causing us to lose credibility as a leading resource in our industry, we will remove the content.

IF users are banned, we are not going to have a dialog about it on the Forums. If we determine that a member is causing overt chaos and diverting our efforts from our core business, we reserve the right to manage these users appropriately.[/quote]

So what you are saying is that some of the PW women are more loose cannons than others that still have posting capabilities? & we aren’t talking about ONE member here. Because you reserve the right, doesn’t make you right. At least a dozen women, who have never razed nor created chaos has been banned.

Complete Nonsense!

This whole issue is like talking a glass eye to sleep.

[quote]Edgy wrote:
that’s the meanest thing that you’ve ever said to me, Anonym~

[quote]Edgy wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:

<3

trollface[/quote]

< - - looks up ‘trollface’ in Wikipedia.[/quote][/quote]

Noooo!

trollface was just to let ya know not to take most of what I’m saying here seriously!

My village will forever be ripe for the pillaging, if yaknamean.

I’m curious about the logic behind opening one account for discussion and one for purchases?

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

Where’s CH?? Charlie Horse, if you’re reading this, just post to lemme know you’re still around.

Ktnxbai[/quote]

She’s banned. She can’t post. She’s one of many.[/quote]

Aw chucks :frowning:


Sheesh, who woulda thunk that there are not only SO MANY people who buy stuff under different accounts, but are ALSO unsung heroes for their tireless and selfless advertising this site?

Admiral Ackbar, what say you??

[quote]pushharder wrote:

Will sex related content be allowed to post on GAL or will GAL be heavily moderated to eliminate most if now all sexually explicit (I’m talking text here not necessarily photos) material?[/quote]

This is TBD.

[quote]TC wrote:
Furthermore, having that forum, and even the Steroid forum, prevents us from being accessible through certain search engines. “Oh heavens, that site discusses female body parts!” “They is talking about steer-oids!” Anyhow, it hurts our potential traffic immensely.

BUT, we’re not getting rid of them. We’re just making them a little less easy to find. However, once it’s completely worked out, you might just need to do an extra mouse click to find them.[/quote]

For those wondering, right from the…eh, horses mouth.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

As long as my combat forum is left alone I could care less what else changes on this site.
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Yes, please, leave the combat forum aloooone!!!

:slight_smile:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

Then Anonym needs to get the sand out of his vagina about Level Os.[/quote]

Hahaha!

Wish I could highfive you right now.

[quote]TC wrote:

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
eh,… there’s been a lot of changes over the years, and while the first few days may have the odd glitch here and there, they always get worked out, and within a week or two, everyone forgets that anything is different.

I’ve got bigger issues to whine about :slight_smile:

S[/quote]

Thank you.

Your forums will still be there. However, some of them will not be accessible by people who aren’t members.

Here’s a short version of the scoop – a lot of people were coming to the site, specifically, the Sex and the Male Animal forum, who weren’t members. I mean, a lot.

In general, though, a couple of forums, Sex and the Male Animal especially, have proved to be a big pain in the keister to us. People were using it as an unofficial Ashley Madison site – the site for cheating spouses. There isn’t a week that goes by that we don’t get emails from wannabe Romeos or Jezebels pleading that we delete all their posts from the dawn of T-Nation, lest their cheatin’ heart be exposed.

Furthermore, having that forum, and even the Steroid forum, prevents us from being accessible through certain search engines. “Oh heavens, that site discusses female body parts!” “They is talking about steer-oids!” Anyhow, it hurts our potential traffic immensely.

BUT, we’re not getting rid of them. We’re just making them a little less easy to find. However, once it’s completely worked out, you might just need to do an extra mouse click to find them.[/quote]

Hey, I wouldn’t have found my wife if it wasn’t for SAMA… It has served it’s purpose :slight_smile:

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[quote]anonym wrote:
Ah… OK.

Just to be clear: we’ve moved from “it doesn’t matter whether or not they are paying customers” to saying, “well, what if we ALL happen to purchase our Biotest supplements elsewhere?”

Is that about right? By “that”, of course, I mean the tacit acknowledgement of my point regarding money talking being a valid one?

Gee whiz, I wonder just how much more we can budge this stalemate if we keep at it for more than… oh, I dunno, a few posts.[/quote]

Actually I came to this site cause I seen this big d00d drinking Surge Recovery in the locker room at my gym in 2007. I didn’t know much about supplements at the time. He gave me this site and recommended the forums cause they are wealth if info. I have been studying this site ever since.

I started buying Biotest products cause they are good and they work. They have good science backing them up. I even persuaded my local supplement retail store to buy them.

The only reason I don’t post in other parts of the forum is because I feel I am not qualified to offer advice when I have so many questions still. And I am not going to re-post what has been posted a 1000 times.

And now your telling me cause I have level 0 my opinion doesn’t matter? Get off your online high horse.

And last but not least I come for the people and I am passionate about a great site that gives out free knowledge. If TC said I am shutting it all down I would respect that and say thanks for the great times. Cause its his place and that’s fine. All I was asking for was whats going on explanation from him. [/quote]

X 2.

I had a friend at my gym tell me about this new website back in 2001, I came here to find articles involving powerlifting, rather than hawt abz stuff. I remember the fat fast diet, t-dawg, and others to be refreshing and new.

Also, I continue to see the dodging of the question about why MEMBERS were booted with no reason or explanation. [/quote]

x2[/quote]

Is it a Fact that some accounts have been deleted?[/quote]

yes
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Ouch.

Strange. Youtube did the same thing with dead accounts Last month. Just did a spring cleaning and cleared thousands of Youtube accounts that had not been used for a period of time.

Hope it was that and not a “this person is to explicit or rude type of thing”.[/quote]

I think it is “this person is too explicit or rude type of thing”

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

Where’s CH?? Charlie Horse, if you’re reading this, just post to lemme know you’re still around.

Ktnxbai[/quote]

She’s banned. She can’t post. She’s one of many.[/quote]

I can’t post on SAMA.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

As long as my combat forum is left alone I could care less what else changes on this site.

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Can you explain why combat is not considered off-topic?

/devils advocate’d
//And can I also assume that a F.I. shit storm would accompany such a cutting of the fighterz forumz?

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
Such is life.
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Ninjaa…if sexy could equate to money, you’d be rich beyond compare~