What Channel is World Cup Opening Ceremony?

[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:
I know it’s all just fun and games and it’s funny to say things like “Americans don’t like it cuz they suck at it” or “Americans would like soccer more if there were monster trucks and guns”. In reality though, the honest truth is simply that the vast majority of Americans just find soccer incredibly, mind-numbingly boring. That’s not a funny or interesting answer, but that’s all there really is to it.[/quote]

If so, than Baseball must really just still exist due to the whole “American past time” thing because there is no way in hell soccer is more boring than baseball. That shit is boring to play and watch. [/quote]

Baseball is hella fun to play.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:
I know it’s all just fun and games and it’s funny to say things like “Americans don’t like it cuz they suck at it” or “Americans would like soccer more if there were monster trucks and guns”. In reality though, the honest truth is simply that the vast majority of Americans just find soccer incredibly, mind-numbingly boring. That’s not a funny or interesting answer, but that’s all there really is to it.[/quote]

If so, than Baseball must really just still exist due to the whole “American past time” thing because there is no way in hell soccer is more boring than baseball. That shit is boring to play and watch. [/quote]

Baseball is hella fun to play. [/quote]

Yeah it is.

And once you enjoy playing it often enough, it becomes fun to watch too.

I love putting a Yankee game on while I have work to do. I can get all of my writing done, and still somehow feel like I’ve been relaxing, watching the game the whole time. You only need to look up when you hear the sound of a crack, anyway.

What a godlike display of goalkeeping by Ochoa today.

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http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/a-brazilian-fan-who-fell-out-of-her-tiny-top-becomes-an-online-viral-star-nsfw-pictures/

Argentina,

Completed a successful cross not even once

I watched the Argentina-Iran game. Was that an example of a good game or a crappy game?

[quote]doogie wrote:
I watched the Argentina-Iran game. Was that an example of a good game or a crappy game?[/quote]

Really disappointing performance by Argentina. No real chance creation despite possession and t e r r i b l e crossing.

The opposite for Iran in terms of their performance and defending.

Argentina made it a very ‘crappy’ game to watch.

The Ghana - Germany game was great to watch, especially the second half.

Statistically, today worked out great for team U S A.

[quote]Claudan wrote:
The Ghana - Germany game was great to watch, especially the second half.

Statistically, today worked out great for team U S A. [/quote]

I’d have preferred to see a German victory as a USMNT fan, although it is cool that we could potentially advance in first now.

[quote]doogie wrote:
I watched the Argentina-Iran game. Was that an example of a good game or a crappy game?[/quote]

Not good (although that goal got me out of my seat). This is mostly because it was Iran’s objective to shut down the most exciting player in the world, and they succeeded until the 91st minute.

So, from an Iranian perspective, I guess most of the game was probably pretty fun to watch.

Just wait until Argentina plays a team whose strategy is to match Messi’s goals, rather than compressing their formation and covering him like glue at the expense of transition and offense. Because Argentina has weaknesses in the back and Messi up front, that will spell fireworks on both ends of the field. And watching Messi work with even just a little space is like watching Mariano pitch with a one-run lead in the World Series.

[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]doogie wrote:
I watched the Argentina-Iran game. Was that an example of a good game or a crappy game?[/quote]

Not good (although that goal got me out of my seat). This is mostly because it was Iran’s objective to shut down the most exciting player in the world, and they succeeded until the 91st minute.

So, from an Iranian perspective, I guess most of the game was probably pretty fun to watch.

Just wait until Argentina plays a team whose strategy is to match Messi’s goals, rather than compressing their formation and covering him like glue at the expense of transition and offense. Because Argentina has weaknesses in the back and Messi up front, that will spell fireworks on both ends of the field. And watching Messi work with even just a little space is like watching Mariano pitch with a one-run lead in the World Series.[/quote]

That goal was amazing though considering the atmosphere of the game. 91st minute, classic Messi dribbling through the middle, bullet to the back of the net.

Tomorrow the US plays, Portugal can go get goat fucked.

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]doogie wrote:
I watched the Argentina-Iran game. Was that an example of a good game or a crappy game?[/quote]

Not good (although that goal got me out of my seat). This is mostly because it was Iran’s objective to shut down the most exciting player in the world, and they succeeded until the 91st minute.

So, from an Iranian perspective, I guess most of the game was probably pretty fun to watch.

Just wait until Argentina plays a team whose strategy is to match Messi’s goals, rather than compressing their formation and covering him like glue at the expense of transition and offense. Because Argentina has weaknesses in the back and Messi up front, that will spell fireworks on both ends of the field. And watching Messi work with even just a little space is like watching Mariano pitch with a one-run lead in the World Series.[/quote]

That goal was amazing though considering the atmosphere of the game. 91st minute, classic Messi dribbling through the middle, bullet to the back of the net.[/quote]

Oh don’t get me wrong, I absolutely loved the goal (and I absolutely love Messi).

But I’m really looking forward to seeing him find a little space.

[quote]Claudan wrote:
"American sports culture exist in a different temporal universe to soccer. Because soccer is something fundamentally different to what Americans are used to, it creates a comletely different paradigm in watching the sport. American sports are all very structured and procedural, with standardized plays that can quantified into statistics, and the narrative of the sport is largely told through statistics. We cheer when a quantifiable number is achieved, we find excitement in that which results in a number indicating success. Soccer is completely unlike this, it doesn’t provide the standardized plays but complete free-form gameplay with only one giant milestone that is difficult to achieve (scoring a goal). To create a gaming analogy, American sports are like turn based games (Civilizations) while soccer is like a RTS (Age of Empires).

If an American watches say 5 minutes of soccer and 5 minutes of football, in the 5 minutes of football he will see on average 21 seconds of gameplay and lots of downtime and commercials (which European frequently cite as one of the reasons American football is boring to them), but critically to Americans that 21 seconds will result in quantifiable achievement, the team will gain or lose an X number of yards, and every player will be granted a plethora of statistics on exactly what he did in every second of gameplay. Football, like all American sports regiments and segments the game into a series of small statistical gains, which are tabulated and compared to previous standardized segments. Soccer is completely the opposite. In soccer, a 5 minute stretch may include the ball moving for several kilometers with players performing a many passes, feints, dribbles…etc yet none of that will be quantified to create a sense of linear progression. Soccer players cover by far the most ground in team sports compared to American sports and perform the most physical action, but none of that action follows a procedure with clear results except the goal. While the rest of the world gets excited by plays like this that don’t result in quantifiable achievement because of the skill and creativity, to your average American its “just kicking a ball around”.
That’s why you hear Americans say things like “soccer is boring because only 1 or 2 goals are scored”.

To most of them, the only exciting part of soccer is when a team scores, because its the only time soccer stops and a number on the screen increments and tells us something has been achieved.

Even the more freeflowing American sport of basketball is still segmented by design into 24 second parts (with a shot clock), and provides a plenty of statistics because of how repeatable the actions. Its guaranteed that every 24 seconds, you’ll get a shot, a rebound by one team or the other and likely an assist. These can be tabulated and a narrative formed around these numbers. Its largely why rugby and hockey have had a very hard time in America, hockey is largely regional and depends heavily on the North where there is cross border influence from Canada, and rugby has largely been absent from American TV.
But even if soccer was somehow to be segmented and quantified into a standardized set of actions with clear linear progression, there is also the question of identity. In many ways, sports are like religion, we tend to follow those that are dominant in the local culture and tend to view others coming from foreign cultures with a sense of rejection. So while the changing demographics and a more globalized culture in America will continue to drive soccer upwards in popularity, it will never truly be embraced since it will always be an outsider sport.

However there are many encouraging signs. This year 31 million Americans watched the final day of the Premier League across the NBC network family and MLS just signed a $720 milion deal with ESPN (despite being only the 4th most watched soccer league in Amerca, behind the Premier League on NBC, Champions League on FOX and Liga MX on Univision) and the Brazil-Croatia game yesterday got TV ratings on part with NBA Finals, more than double Stanley Cup finals. These are all healthy signs of interest and growth, but even if it doesn’t evolve past that, there’s nothing wrong that. Whether soccer becomes genuinely accepted in America as equal to American football and baseball no longer hurts American soccer fans ability to watch soccer since its commonly shown on TV now.
And in the end, soccer as sport needs no validation from America. Soccer already completely dwarfs every other sport in every measure of success, it has more fans, more revenue and more TV viewers than all American sports combined. It has never needed America, so it will never change to assimilate into what Americans are used to watching."[/quote]

Fantastic post.

Let’s get dat ass !

Fabian Johnson is impressive

The future of US Soccerball is looking bright

USA!!!@#@!#!

Truly heart breaking loss, but they played their asses off. Some silly mistakes early on, that can be fixed.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Truly heart breaking loss[/quote]

Wut?