I agree, we should stay out of the Israeli-Middle east conflict. So should the UN. Of course, I get this feeling, that certain middle eastern populations, would come whining for us to get involved the first time they piss off a now unrestrained Israel.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
We have not been hit again because we have presented a united front to the terrorists. Now, if the congress goes to the Dems, the squabbling and gridlock will ensue. Perfect time to hit us…
I’m a teacher in Ohio. If I can think of that, won’t Osama and his minions as well?
HH[/quote]
Exactly what does the war in Iraq have to do with the 9-11 terrorist attack? There is no link.
[quote]Petedacook wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
We have not been hit again because we have presented a united front to the terrorists. Now, if the congress goes to the Dems, the squabbling and gridlock will ensue. Perfect time to hit us…
I’m a teacher in Ohio. If I can think of that, won’t Osama and his minions as well?
HH
Exactly what does the war in Iraq have to do with the 9-11 terrorist attack? There is no link. [/quote]
Sure there is. If there wasn’t, why would terrorists be fighting us in Iraq? Why not sneak across our border with a suitcase bomb, etc.?
We need to cut off the head of the snake, though, that’s for sure. Iran and NK should be nuclear wastelands by now. Its that or Southern California, or New Jersey, or (pick your place). I choose that THEY be nuked, not us. Kill or be killed. Choose.
The “terrorists” that are resisting troops in Iraq are called insurgents, and they are attacking Iraq citizens more than US troops. The reason the citizens of Iraq attack US troops is because the troops are occupying their country and they are pissed about it.
Don’t disagree with me, disagree with the 9-11 report (created by Bush cronnies by the way) which specifically states there was no link between Iraq and Al Qaeda, or the 9-11 terrorist attacks. In fact, Iraq is specifically quoted as being a buffer for terrorists.
Lets stop making a link where none exists. This war is simply about oil and the P.N.A.C. agenda. It is making more enemies than allies and solving zero terrorist issues.
[quote]Petedacook wrote:
The reason the citizens of Iraq attack US troops is because the troops are occupying their country and they are pissed about it.[/quote]
Then why do they sabotage our efforts to improve their infrastructure; water, electricity, etc.? Also, Iraqis that work with us in trying to rebuild power stations and whatnot are targets of insurgent reprisals. Anything that is perceived as “western” over there is considered “evil” and “against Islam”. Have you checked the link in my Real Fascism Example thread?
The problem is not that “we are there”, the problem is that Islamofascists run the streets, and they are fucking crazy as shit. We can’t even help them get a working power grid without them fucking it up for everybody.
Psychos in charge = bad
[quote]lothario1132 wrote:
Petedacook wrote:
The reason the citizens of Iraq attack US troops is because the troops are occupying their country and they are pissed about it.
Then why do they sabotage our efforts to improve their infrastructure; water, electricity, etc.? Also, Iraqis that work with us in trying to rebuild power stations and whatnot are targets of insurgent reprisals. Anything that is perceived as “western” over there is considered “evil” and “against Islam”. Have you checked the link in my Real Fascism Example thread?
The problem is not that “we are there”, the problem is that Islamofascists run the streets, and they are fucking crazy as shit. We can’t even help them get a working power grid without them fucking it up for everybody.
Psychos in charge = bad[/quote]
When an advanced culture (America) tries to bring a backward culture out of darkness, the savages will resist with all their might. Because they are savages, they see no value in things like electric lights, modern medicine, water filtration. Just like some medieval Pope would do, those things are to be condemned. That’s why they blow those things up.
The solution is to give each Iraqi citizen a share of the oil revenues. Greed usually overpowers most other things. Do like in Alaska and give each citizen a $1000/year from the oil. They’d protect that setup fiercely.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
We have not been hit again because we have presented a united front to the terrorists. Now, if the congress goes to the Dems, the squabbling and gridlock will ensue. Perfect time to hit us…
I’m a teacher in Ohio. If I can think of that, won’t Osama and his minions as well?
HH[/quote]
Another genius post. No wonder you’re a teacher in Ohio. Although that’s scary.
Ugghhhh, this is why I haven’t been in here very much lately. Stupidity such as this is unparalleled and UnAmerican.
[quote]lothario1132 wrote:
“Then why do they sabotage our efforts to improve their infrastructure; water, electricity, etc.?”
[/quote]
Without research, I cannot confirm or deny the people of Iraq are sabotaging American efforts to improve their infrastructure, but I can tell you that here in the US it is not uncommon for people in the lower class to destroy their own neighborhood, burn down their own houses, and that seems very similar to what you are accusing the Iraqi people of doing. Perhaps you recall the riots in LA after the Rodney King verdict?
Now why do you suppose US citizens attack and burn down their own neighborhoods? I can assure you it is not Islamic fundamentalism, and not because a foreign army is bringing western life to their town.
I recall a theory in Sociology that people doing such seemingly self destructive acts do so because they feel destitute and feel like they have nothing to lose. I have seen pictures of Iraq, and I can tell you if I were in the pictures I saw, I would presonally feel destitute, regardless of my religion and fundamentalism.
Unfortunately, I cannot recall any other theories on why people attack and burn their own infrastructure.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
lothario1132 wrote:
Petedacook wrote:
The reason the citizens of Iraq attack US troops is because the troops are occupying their country and they are pissed about it.
Then why do they sabotage our efforts to improve their infrastructure; water, electricity, etc.? Also, Iraqis that work with us in trying to rebuild power stations and whatnot are targets of insurgent reprisals. Anything that is perceived as “western” over there is considered “evil” and “against Islam”. Have you checked the link in my Real Fascism Example thread?
The problem is not that “we are there”, the problem is that Islamofascists run the streets, and they are fucking crazy as shit. We can’t even help them get a working power grid without them fucking it up for everybody.
Psychos in charge = bad
When an advanced culture (America) tries to bring a backward culture out of darkness, the savages will resist with all their might. Because they are savages, they see no value in things like electric lights, modern medicine, water filtration. Just like some medieval Pope would do, those things are to be condemned. That’s why they blow those things up.
The solution is to give each Iraqi citizen a share of the oil revenues. Greed usually overpowers most other things. Do like in Alaska and give each citizen a $1000/year from the oil. They’d protect that setup fiercely.
[/quote]
Socialism does not work.
It would be better to sub-contract with Iraqis to rebuild their own country instead of letting Haliburton sub-contract will external companies.
“Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.”
Handouts will not work but employing the Iraqis will. Our country was built on backs of unskilled labor but the projects were run well by professionals.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
We have not been hit again because we have presented a united front to the terrorists. Now, if the congress goes to the Dems, the squabbling and gridlock will ensue. Perfect time to hit us…
I’m a teacher in Ohio. If I can think of that, won’t Osama and his minions as well?
HH
Another genius post. No wonder you’re a teacher in Ohio. Although that’s scary.
Ugghhhh, this is why I haven’t been in here very much lately. Stupidity such as this is unparalleled and UnAmerican.[/quote]
Teacher, military analyst, social commentator and armchair assassin.
‘We gotta nuke these Iranians’ slurps beer, ‘We gotta bomb dem Iraqi’s into a goddamn dust bowl’ munches Doritos, plays Battlefield on the X-Box to get even, slurps more beer, ‘Nuke them’ eats more Doritos.
Headhunter you would not have made it into the armed forces ill or not because you are a gobshite.
Also get fucked with your Pope comments !
[quote]Lorisco wrote:
Brad61 wrote:
To refute it, that would indicate that it made a damn bit of sense in the first place.
It does make sense it that we have brought the fight to the terrorists. Instead of them trying to hit on American soil they are too busy trying to hit our troops in Iraq. Iraq is now a magnet for all these Islamic assholes. We are on their turf and it pisses them off.
So whether or not you like it or think is was a good idea, the fact is that the Iraq war has kept the terrorists busy and the result has been no attack on American soil.
[/quote]
Wwwwwhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttt???
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Petedacook wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
We have not been hit again because we have presented a united front to the terrorists. Now, if the congress goes to the Dems, the squabbling and gridlock will ensue. Perfect time to hit us…
I’m a teacher in Ohio. If I can think of that, won’t Osama and his minions as well?
HH
Exactly what does the war in Iraq have to do with the 9-11 terrorist attack? There is no link.
Sure there is. If there wasn’t, why would terrorists be fighting us in Iraq? Why not sneak across our border with a suitcase bomb, etc.?
We need to cut off the head of the snake, though, that’s for sure. Iran and NK should be nuclear wastelands by now. Its that or Southern California, or New Jersey, or (pick your place). I choose that THEY be nuked, not us. Kill or be killed. Choose.
[/quote]
OMG
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
lothario1132 wrote:
Petedacook wrote:
The reason the citizens of Iraq attack US troops is because the troops are occupying their country and they are pissed about it.
Then why do they sabotage our efforts to improve their infrastructure; water, electricity, etc.? Also, Iraqis that work with us in trying to rebuild power stations and whatnot are targets of insurgent reprisals. Anything that is perceived as “western” over there is considered “evil” and “against Islam”. Have you checked the link in my Real Fascism Example thread?
The problem is not that “we are there”, the problem is that Islamofascists run the streets, and they are fucking crazy as shit. We can’t even help them get a working power grid without them fucking it up for everybody.
Psychos in charge = bad
When an advanced culture (America) tries to bring a backward culture out of darkness, the savages will resist with all their might. Because they are savages, they see no value in things like electric lights, modern medicine, water filtration. Just like some medieval Pope would do, those things are to be condemned. That’s why they blow those things up.
The solution is to give each Iraqi citizen a share of the oil revenues. Greed usually overpowers most other things. Do like in Alaska and give each citizen a $1000/year from the oil. They’d protect that setup fiercely.
[/quote]
First, who gets $1,000 a year from oil in Alaska? Everyone?
Sounds like socialism to me. Give Iraqi’s a fair share of oil revenues. It’s kind of what Chavez does. He puts oil profits back into infrastructure, education and social reforms.
Unfortunately your solution is a daydream as the gargantuan oil companies(U.S. U.K.) would never allow this. Do they allow it in the U.S.?
I agree that greed can overpower quite a bit. Look at the greed of big oil. Do you think they cared about the thousands of innocent deaths caused by this war?
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
lothario1132 wrote:
Petedacook wrote:
The reason the citizens of Iraq attack US troops is because the troops are occupying their country and they are pissed about it.
Then why do they sabotage our efforts to improve their infrastructure; water, electricity, etc.? Also, Iraqis that work with us in trying to rebuild power stations and whatnot are targets of insurgent reprisals. Anything that is perceived as “western” over there is considered “evil” and “against Islam”. Have you checked the link in my Real Fascism Example thread?
The problem is not that “we are there”, the problem is that Islamofascists run the streets, and they are fucking crazy as shit. We can’t even help them get a working power grid without them fucking it up for everybody.
Psychos in charge = bad
When an advanced culture (America) tries to bring a backward culture out of darkness, the savages will resist with all their might. Because they are savages, they see no value in things like electric lights, modern medicine, water filtration. Just like some medieval Pope would do, those things are to be condemned. That’s why they blow those things up.
The solution is to give each Iraqi citizen a share of the oil revenues. Greed usually overpowers most other things. Do like in Alaska and give each citizen a $1000/year from the oil. They’d protect that setup fiercely.
First, who gets $1,000 a year from oil in Alaska? Everyone?
Sounds like socialism to me. Give Iraqi’s a fair share of oil revenues. It’s kind of what Chavez does. He puts oil profits back into infrastructure, education and social reforms.
Unfortunately your solution is a daydream as the gargantuan oil companies(U.S. U.K.) would never allow this. Do they allow it in the U.S.?
I agree that greed can overpower quite a bit. Look at the greed of big oil. Do you think they cared about the thousands of innocent deaths caused by this war?[/quote]
Chavez?!?!?!
Do you realize Chavez replaced all the judges in the courts with his cronies?
Do you realize that if you called Chavez ‘the devil’ in his country, like he called our president, that you would be killed?
No worries, Chavez will be gone by the end of the year. You can bet on that.
It is the emerging markets analysts jobs to know these things…
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
We have not been hit again because we have presented a united front to the terrorists. Now, if the congress goes to the Dems, the squabbling and gridlock will ensue. Perfect time to hit us…
I’m a teacher in Ohio. If I can think of that, won’t Osama and his minions as well?
HH
Another genius post. No wonder you’re a teacher in Ohio. Although that’s scary.
Ugghhhh, this is why I haven’t been in here very much lately. Stupidity such as this is unparalleled and UnAmerican.[/quote]
Pure bullshit. YOU would withhold comment until now? You probably couldn’t think of an intelligent response and finally gave up, then posted this.
Jack London would be ashamed of your writing skills.
[quote]Lorisco wrote:
Brad61 wrote:
To refute it, that would indicate that it made a damn bit of sense in the first place.
It does make sense it that we have brought the fight to the terrorists. Instead of them trying to hit on American soil they are too busy trying to hit our troops in Iraq. Iraq is now a magnet for all these Islamic assholes. We are on their turf and it pisses them off.
So whether or not you like it or think is was a good idea, the fact is that the Iraq war has kept the terrorists busy and the result has been no attack on American soil.
[/quote]
Specious reasoning: according to your “logic,” the Iraq Debacle has also kept Godzilla fom attacking us.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
A Bunch of Bullshit
[/quote]
I have a question for you.
Can you tell me what Project for New Amercian Century (PNAC)is, what it stands for, and what members are in the current White House Cabinet?
What letter did they write to Bill Clinton? Who signed it?
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
lothario1132 wrote:
Petedacook wrote:
The reason the citizens of Iraq attack US troops is because the troops are occupying their country and they are pissed about it.
Then why do they sabotage our efforts to improve their infrastructure; water, electricity, etc.? Also, Iraqis that work with us in trying to rebuild power stations and whatnot are targets of insurgent reprisals. Anything that is perceived as “western” over there is considered “evil” and “against Islam”. Have you checked the link in my Real Fascism Example thread?
The problem is not that “we are there”, the problem is that Islamofascists run the streets, and they are fucking crazy as shit. We can’t even help them get a working power grid without them fucking it up for everybody.
Psychos in charge = bad
When an advanced culture (America) tries to bring a backward culture out of darkness, the savages will resist with all their might. Because they are savages, they see no value in things like electric lights, modern medicine, water filtration. Just like some medieval Pope would do, those things are to be condemned. That’s why they blow those things up.
The solution is to give each Iraqi citizen a share of the oil revenues. Greed usually overpowers most other things. Do like in Alaska and give each citizen a $1000/year from the oil. They’d protect that setup fiercely.
[/quote]
I love your evil, ethnocentric posts. They’re so interesting :D.
[quote]harris447 wrote:
Lorisco wrote:
Brad61 wrote:
To refute it, that would indicate that it made a damn bit of sense in the first place.
It does make sense it that we have brought the fight to the terrorists. Instead of them trying to hit on American soil they are too busy trying to hit our troops in Iraq. Iraq is now a magnet for all these Islamic assholes. We are on their turf and it pisses them off.
So whether or not you like it or think is was a good idea, the fact is that the Iraq war has kept the terrorists busy and the result has been no attack on American soil.
Specious reasoning: according to your “logic,” the Iraq Debacle has also kept Godzilla fom attacking us.
[/quote]
LOL
[quote]Petedacook wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
A Bunch of Bullshit
I have a question for you.
Can you tell me what Project for New Amercian Century (PNAC)is, what it stands for, and what members are in the current White House Cabinet?
What letter did they write to Bill Clinton? Who signed it? [/quote]
Hey Peterdacock,
Am I the Shell Answer Man? What’s with all the bullshit questions? I can google it and pretend to be something I’m not (of which you are an expert?), so why fucking bother?
You libs are fucking morons, I swear! Who the fuck hires these people? How do they live? Oh, you COOK, I guess…Do you drool on the fries before you give 'em to the customer?
What a fucking moron!!