[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
Would everybody be ok if Americans were water boarded
Better than mutilation and decapitation. Jesus man, do you have any concept of what the enemy is doing in this war?
I think any person who picks up a newspaper once a week knows that. How does that in any way justify our torture, however less harmful, of our enemies? Did I miss the memo where we decided to judge our values by comparison with those of Islamic nihilism? I thought moral relativism was a trait of the Left.
What torture are you talking about? The three AQ dickheads dunked under water years ago?
Are you an AQ spokesman? Why do you keep pretending we are torturing people?
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[quote]orion wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
Would everybody be ok if Americans were water boarded
Better than mutilation and decapitation. Jesus man, do you have any concept of what the enemy is doing in this war?
I think any person who picks up a newspaper once a week knows that. How does that in any way justify our torture, however less harmful, of our enemies? Did I miss the memo where we decided to judge our values by comparison with those of Islamic nihilism? I thought moral relativism was a trait of the Left.
What torture are you talking about? The three AQ dickheads dunked under water years ago?
Are you an AQ spokesman? Why do you keep pretending we are torturing people?
Because you are?
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The majority could use a good dunk under water anyway
[quote]orion wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
Would everybody be ok if Americans were water boarded
Better than mutilation and decapitation. Jesus man, do you have any concept of what the enemy is doing in this war?
I think any person who picks up a newspaper once a week knows that. How does that in any way justify our torture, however less harmful, of our enemies? Did I miss the memo where we decided to judge our values by comparison with those of Islamic nihilism? I thought moral relativism was a trait of the Left.
What torture are you talking about? The three AQ dickheads dunked under water years ago?
Are you an AQ spokesman? Why do you keep pretending we are torturing people?
There is already a thread about this somewhere. If you would volunteer to have something done to you, it probably isn’t torture. If you volunteer to do it twice so you can beat your best time, it certainly isn’t torture.
What if it isn’t something you volunteered for? It isn’t in a controlled setting. You have no safe word. You don’t know if/when they are going to stop. You are in a confused shocked state. You are scared for your life.
You have been imprisoned, isolated for who knows how long. You are weak and exhausted. You are starving and thirsty. You don’t know where you are, what day it is, what time it is. You have absolutely no desire to set a best time let alone beat it.
Is it torture then?[/quote]
Sure it torture, so is being imprisoned, not being able to work out, or being forced to eat MRE’s for six months. However, it is not inhumane. It is not drilling holes in knee caps, rasp filing teeth down, or castration. Giving the choice between being captured by americans and being waterboarded or being captured by our enemies and being burned alive or decapitated, I’ll take the waterboarding any day.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
orion wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
orion wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
Would everybody be ok if Americans were water boarded
No.
When the Japanese did it to Americans you sentenced them to die.
No but there is an active program going on about hunting down and prosecuting Nazis for war crimes .
There is!
90 year olds that cannot be imprisoned or tried are a disappointment, aren´t they?
edited to make sense
They have been hounding a General Motors employee since the early eighties, theywill probably hound him to his grave