Seriously, if you had a household income of 17k for a family of 4, how would YOU classify yourself? Just because our poor are not as destitute as those in Bangladesh does not mean that they are not poor in comparison to the rest of the population.
Are you saying the poor have it good? Should we strive to be more like India or Brazil?
Dont get the point here?
Chris. Sorry about the land thing. I was wrong.
Guess they are #3 behind King Abdallah[/quote]
But that is just the thing.
The way you define poor there always will be poor. Furthermore, by trying to reduce the income gap, you are making sure that they are relatively better off in the long run, but worse of in absolute terms.
I think you skew the math , I am not sure but I would be that they are counting every house hold whether 1 person or 10 as a family, even at your number of almost a million that is way too high, and i commend you on your charitable contributions
I’d say the real problem is the growing divide between rich and poor. Fuck if I know how to fix it, but it’s sort of crazy to look at the data: Who Rules America: Wealth, Income, and Power
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I think you skew the math , I am not sure but I would be that they are counting every house hold whether 1 person or 10 as a family, even at your number of almost a million that is way too high, and i commend you on your charitable contributions [/quote]
Government uses benevolence as a tool of enslavement. Any program devised by government to ‘end poverty’ (laughable) is all about power.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I think you skew the math , I am not sure but I would be that they are counting every house hold whether 1 person or 10 as a family, even at your number of almost a million that is way too high, and i commend you on your charitable contributions [/quote]
Didn’t say it wasn’t too high, those who do not have homes and do not have a regular food source need to be helped, though not enabled.
I was just pointing out that we have clearly improved on helping the truly poor (homeless and hungry). And, as a side note that the US Government has a tendency to say the bottom 30% is poor, even though it looks like the majority of them have stuff I don’t even have (though I could buy them, I’m referring to they have the necessities and more).
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I think you skew the math , I am not sure but I would be that they are counting every house hold whether 1 person or 10 as a family, even at your number of almost a million that is way too high, and i commend you on your charitable contributions [/quote]
Government uses benevolence as a tool of enslavement. Any program devised by government to ‘end poverty’ (laughable) is all about power.
Helping the poor is a personal choice.
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Rhetoric helping the poor should go without saying
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I think you skew the math , I am not sure but I would be that they are counting every house hold whether 1 person or 10 as a family, even at your number of almost a million that is way too high, and i commend you on your charitable contributions [/quote]
Didn’t say it wasn’t too high, those who do not have homes and do not have a regular food source need to be helped, though not enabled.
I was just pointing out that we have clearly improved on helping the truly poor (homeless and hungry). And, as a side note that the US Government has a tendency to say the bottom 30% is poor, even though it looks like the majority of them have stuff I don’t even have (though I could buy them, I’m referring to they have the necessities and more). [/quote]
I do not know if you watched that Jon Stewart ,youtube I put up but he claims the bottom %50 of Americans control %5 of the wealth
[quote]siouxperman wrote:
I’d say the real problem is the growing divide between rich and poor. Fuck if I know how to fix it, but it’s sort of crazy to look at the data: Who Rules America: Wealth, Income, and Power
[/quote]
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I think you skew the math , I am not sure but I would be that they are counting every house hold whether 1 person or 10 as a family, even at your number of almost a million that is way too high, and i commend you on your charitable contributions [/quote]
Didn’t say it wasn’t too high, those who do not have homes and do not have a regular food source need to be helped, though not enabled.
I was just pointing out that we have clearly improved on helping the truly poor (homeless and hungry). And, as a side note that the US Government has a tendency to say the bottom 30% is poor, even though it looks like the majority of them have stuff I don’t even have (though I could buy them, I’m referring to they have the necessities and more). [/quote]
I do not know if you watched that Jon Stewart ,youtube I put up but he claims the bottom %50 of Americans control %5 of the wealth[/quote]
[quote]siouxperman wrote:
I’d say the real problem is the growing divide between rich and poor. Fuck if I know how to fix it, but it’s sort of crazy to look at the data: Who Rules America: Wealth, Income, and Power
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Distributism.[/quote]
What about it
edit: how does it not end up turning out the same?
[quote]siouxperman wrote:
I’d say the real problem is the growing divide between rich and poor. Fuck if I know how to fix it, but it’s sort of crazy to look at the data: Who Rules America: Wealth, Income, and Power
[/quote]
Distributism.[/quote]
What about it
edit: how does it not end up turning out the same?[/quote]
It doesnt, churches just like to indulge in utopian fantasies.
Much like Marxism and philosophies of the same kidney.
[quote]siouxperman wrote:
I’d say the real problem is the growing divide between rich and poor. Fuck if I know how to fix it, but it’s sort of crazy to look at the data: Who Rules America: Wealth, Income, and Power
[/quote]
Distributism.[/quote]
What about it
edit: how does it not end up turning out the same?[/quote]
[quote]siouxperman wrote:
I’d say the real problem is the growing divide between rich and poor. Fuck if I know how to fix it, but it’s sort of crazy to look at the data: Who Rules America: Wealth, Income, and Power
[/quote]
Distributism.[/quote]
What about it
edit: how does it not end up turning out the same?[/quote]
It doesnt, churches just like to indulge in utopian fantasies.
Much like Marxism and philosophies of the same kidney.
[quote]siouxperman wrote:
I’d say the real problem is the growing divide between rich and poor. Fuck if I know how to fix it, but it’s sort of crazy to look at the data: Who Rules America: Wealth, Income, and Power
[/quote]
Distributism.[/quote]
What about it
edit: how does it not end up turning out the same?[/quote]
It doesnt, churches just like to indulge in utopian fantasies.
Much like Marxism and philosophies of the same kidney.
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Have you studied Distributism? [/quote]
“Studied” would be a bit much, but I cannot envision any way of getting there without some very heavy state intervention.
Not only would this be highly corrupt from the get go, it also fails to take into account that some people are better at handling money or combining factors of production than others. The optimal size of a company should be determined by the market, not by some arbitrary ideal.
[quote]siouxperman wrote:
I’d say the real problem is the growing divide between rich and poor. Fuck if I know how to fix it, but it’s sort of crazy to look at the data: Who Rules America: Wealth, Income, and Power
[/quote]
Distributism.[/quote]
What about it
edit: how does it not end up turning out the same?[/quote]
I don’t understand?[/quote]
Neither do I. Has it ever been implemented with any success?
[quote]siouxperman wrote:
I’d say the real problem is the growing divide between rich and poor. Fuck if I know how to fix it, but it’s sort of crazy to look at the data: http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html[/quote]
You don’t fix it. Why this is even viewed as something that gov’t intervention can and even should address is disturbing.
