[quote]malonetd wrote:
Why wouldn’t a company want to cater to its customers?[/quote]
it seems the response is, since its not white people shopping, the rules of a business trying to make money is somehow different.
[quote]PB-Crawl wrote:
malonetd wrote:
Why wouldn’t a company want to cater to its customers?
it seems the response is, since its not white people shopping, the rules of a business trying to make money is somehow different.[/quote]
I don’t carry pesos in my pocket because I’m an American. I don’t expect stores, street signs, bank ATMs, and school classes to be in English if I visit another country. Why in the CAPITAL F should America change for foreigners?
Of course, Walmart is an example of the worst side of capitalism, I wouldn’t shop there unless I was starving, and they are free to engage in any insanity and crookedness they desire.
[quote]sevenmoist wrote:
Skulykill, PA huh where the hell is that? Why not come to FLA or Texas and start all this talk. A bunch of sheltered hillbillies don’t like nuthin different. I mean are’nt all the meth heads up there a bigger problem to worry about. [/quote]
It is where it is. In Pa., in coal country in a cash strapped borough.
[quote]tme wrote:
tom63 wrote:
Adding to possible cost? In Schuylkill county , Pa. we spend a certain amount of money for bilingual ballots. you can’t speak the language, but can vote? The local high school has to have translators due to the increased Hispanic population. there are more students in school which costs more money of course.
Some of these people are illegal aliens and are not contributing to the local tax base, but do benefit from it’s services.
Yes, some are illegal, but probably most aren’t. The language in many ballot issues can be confusing at best, I would hate to have to vote on an important issue that could impact me and only be able to read it in a second language. I don’t think the costs are all that high, I’d rather err on the side of ensuring that people understand what exactly they’re voting on.
And the same for schools. You want to make it so a person can’t get an education and master english until they’ve already mastered english? Does that even make sense? So hire a few teachers who are bilingual, or pay for some to take classes. Learning a second language isn’t the worst thing you can think of.
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The problem is that the feds have ignored this forever and no small towns that don’t have the money have to provide these services. Unfunded federal mandates.
I have no problem with citizens, but just because something might be a nice idea does not mean we should pay for everything.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
PB-Crawl wrote:
malonetd wrote:
Why wouldn’t a company want to cater to its customers?
it seems the response is, since its not white people shopping, the rules of a business trying to make money is somehow different.
I don’t carry pesos in my pocket because I’m an American. I don’t expect stores, street signs, bank ATMs, and school classes to be in English if I visit another country. Why in the CAPITAL F should America change for foreigners?
Of course, Walmart is an example of the worst side of capitalism, I wouldn’t shop there unless I was starving, and they are free to engage in any insanity and crookedness they desire.
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feel free show a single walmart accepting pesos as the only form of currency.
they’re trying to make money, what don’t you understand?
If you don’t even shop there, why do you care in slightest?
have you ever been to another country?
ever been south of LA? Hawaii? Florida? Texas? Sacramento? New Orleans? Walmart doing this doesn’t mean shit has changed, its been going on for decades.
i find it ironic that poor/old white people are the ones who get upset about this.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
dk44 wrote:
One thing is for sure, these Wal-Marts will have outstanding lawns.
LOL!
And Wal-Marts in war zones become Targets.
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I’m Mexican-American and this made me chuckle har har. I even one time held a job in my younger days using a weed wacker LOL I never felt more like a Mexican coming home all dirty. My boss even said look I’ll pay you 9+ an hour + racial jokes or otherwise you can only make 7.00/hr
In this here country you speak English or you get out! bald eagle cries in the background, KKK klansmen standing proud holding an American flag So Wal-Mart is catering to their target market. They’ll soon have signs up in the rare dialect of “Ignit Redneck”
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
jawara wrote:
If a person can’t speak English and has to shop at Walmart, then I have empathy for the poor slobs. And, as long as the store is in America, the language should be English.
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Mark this day: I agree with Headhunter.
You come here, you learn English. End of story.
[quote]Growing_Boy wrote:
In this here country you speak English or you get out! bald eagle cries in the background, KKK klansmen standing proud holding an American flag So Wal-Mart is catering to their target market. They’ll soon have signs up in the rare dialect of “Ignit Redneck”[/quote]
It’s not like that. But this world has a ton of different languages, and if I went to live in France, I would try my damndest to learn French.
When my ancestors came over here, no one had stores in Italian to cater to them (the Irish side is a bit different, obviously.)
So why the fuck shouldn’t we have signs in every language? There’s a lot of Arabs around where I live too… let’s have the signs in Arabic while we’re at it.
No thanks. Learn English or go home. It’s the only thing besides gun rights I’m very conservative on.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Growing_Boy wrote:
In this here country you speak English or you get out! bald eagle cries in the background, KKK klansmen standing proud holding an American flag So Wal-Mart is catering to their target market. They’ll soon have signs up in the rare dialect of “Ignit Redneck”
It’s not like that. But this world has a ton of different languages, and if I went to live in France, I would try my damndest to learn French.
When my ancestors came over here, no one had stores in Italian to cater to them (the Irish side is a bit different, obviously.)
So why the fuck shouldn’t we have signs in every language? There’s a lot of Arabs around where I live too… let’s have the signs in Arabic while we’re at it.
No thanks. Learn English or go home. It’s the only thing besides gun rights I’m very conservative on. [/quote]
I’m a middle of the road kinda of guy. The truth is that Wal-Mart strives to make higher profits its after all a publicly traded company and has certain responsibilities, so they cater to whatever their main group of consumers are. To the anger of some, this is more so in states that border Mexico. Well, because alot of ‘them’ don’t speak Englush muy bien and it helps get them inside of the door to spend money on cheap, plastic, shit that is made in China (the country that will one day eat our lunch ala NAFTA and Mexico).
As for the Arabs, we should learn to speak their language as they too will one day eat our lunch. I agree with you on gun rights, though. One day when the shit really hits the fan all the fucking liberals will make a line to suck our dicks for having automatic rifles. Fuck home protection, sum bitch that breaks into my house is getting rained on!
You know what’s funny? When I lived in Japan, I noticed that a lot of the signs were in English.
This was helpful, even though I could read and write Japanese. Street signs, subway station signs, maps, it was very nice. Must have been especially nice for foreign visitors who didn’t read or write Japanese.
Just before I left Japan, I noticed an increasing number of signs in Chinese and Korean, as well as English. This reflected, I surmised, the increasing number of Chinese and Korean visitors and residents in Japan.
You will also, in some areas, find signs in Persian, Russian, Arabic, Tagalog, Spanish and Portuguese. For some reason, the Japanese don’t get terribly lathered about it. They realize that their language isn’t the easiest to master, and want to make things easier for poor illiterate foreigners.
At any given time, non-Japanese comprise only about 5 percent of the total population of Japan. Being an archipelago, it naturally shares no land borders with any other country. The Japanese are quite well-known for their relative intolerance of foreigners.
And yet, there are the signs.
In the United States, we have people from every country in the world, speaking every language in the world. It would be great if we could assimilate them all into our wonderful melting-pot culture, but if our schools can’t even teach our students history and math, it seems a far stretch to expect them to teach English to everyone.
And besides, tourists come to America, too. Surely we can’t expect all of them to learn English, any more than a Czech or an Italian would expect American tourists to learn their respective languages before visiting Prague or Rome.
Not to mention that this is old news. In the Chicano areas of my hometown, there have been billboards in Spanish for as long as I can remember. When I was living in Los Angeles, I remember seeing signs in Korean when passing through Koreatown, and signs in Chinese when passing through Chinatown.
Hell, in South Central LA, I even saw signs in ebonics. One store was called, memorably, Tha Sto’. I shit you not.
So no, I don’t think a few signs in Spanish in Wal-Mart is going to bring about the apocalypse.
Damn you hillbillies act like u can learn another language in a day. How do you know people are not trying?
[quote]PB-Crawl wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
PB-Crawl wrote:
malonetd wrote:
Why wouldn’t a company want to cater to its customers?
it seems the response is, since its not white people shopping, the rules of a business trying to make money is somehow different.
I don’t carry pesos in my pocket because I’m an American. I don’t expect stores, street signs, bank ATMs, and school classes to be in English if I visit another country. Why in the CAPITAL F should America change for foreigners?
Of course, Walmart is an example of the worst side of capitalism, I wouldn’t shop there unless I was starving, and they are free to engage in any insanity and crookedness they desire.
feel free show a single walmart accepting pesos as the only form of currency.
they’re trying to make money, what don’t you understand?
If you don’t even shop there, why do you care in slightest?
have you ever been to another country?
ever been south of LA? Hawaii? Florida? Texas? Sacramento? New Orleans? Walmart doing this doesn’t mean shit has changed, its been going on for decades.
i find it ironic that poor/old white people are the ones who get upset about this.[/quote]
Jawara is a black man and soldier. And I’m not upset at all; I simply find it ironic that accomodation is made for people who don’t want to bother to learn the language of the country they moved into. Sure, at airports and such, accomodate VISITORS.
It does upset me that immigrants move here and vote for candidates who give them free shit.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Hell, in South Central LA, I even saw signs in ebonics. One store was called, memorably, Tha Sto’. I shit you not.
So no, I don’t think a few signs in Spanish in Wal-Mart is going to bring about the apocalypse.[/quote]
If I do my students homework, they have no incentive to do it themselves. There has to be consequences. So, in the same way, immigrants have to be forced to learn the language.
Besides, speaking middle-class English is a good way to get into…the middle class.
LOL! wrt ‘Tha Sto’! Got any pics?