[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
I can think of many areas where that would do more good than trying to scare the general public into paying taxes by making an example of him.
I see more harm done socially by Lindsey Lohan than right here.
I agree 100%.
My hope is that this ‘making an example’ shit, which was mis-applied here, might actually be used against shit-holes like Lindsay or Amy Winehouse.
Highly unlikely, but this Snipes case is the first I’ve seen a celebrity actually get treated worse because of their celebrity status, so maybe.[/quote]
Paris Hilton was allegedly sentenced to more jail time than the average similar offender in the same area.
I think he is an ass for trying to pay zero taxes. It is clear as day that it is required. The idea that it is voluntary is ludicrous, even though the internet is full of nonsense on the subject.
If he actually served 3 years it would be total horseshit but I doubt he will serve more than a few months.
If he didn’t hide overseas he probably would not have gotten any jail time.
He fucked this one up by the numbers.
Successful and famous people better pay their taxes or else they will be made an example of. Don’t you know the more money one makes the more the government owns them? The US judges and prosecutors needs to make sure their retirements will be funded by the likes of Snipes and his non-taxpaying ilk. I wonder if Snipes was given a trial by a jury of his rich, black, tax-hating peers…?
The whole thing just makes my stomach churn with anger. Yet an other waste of taxpayer money putting people who commit victimless crimes in jail.
Fuck the IRS.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Bauer97 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
I can think of many areas where that would do more good than trying to scare the general public into paying taxes by making an example of him.
I see more harm done socially by Lindsey Lohan than right here.
I agree 100%.
My hope is that this ‘making an example’ shit, which was mis-applied here, might actually be used against shit-holes like Lindsay or Amy Winehouse.
Highly unlikely, but this Snipes case is the first I’ve seen a celebrity actually get treated worse because of their celebrity status, so maybe.
Paris Hilton was allegedly sentenced to more jail time than the average similar offender in the same area.
I think he is an ass for trying to pay zero taxes. It is clear as day that it is required. The idea that it is voluntary is ludicrous, even though the internet is full of nonsense on the subject.
If he actually served 3 years it would be total horseshit but I doubt he will serve more than a few months.
If he didn’t hide overseas he probably would not have gotten any jail time.
He fucked this one up by the numbers.[/quote]
No, his big mistake was being a celebrity and not committing his crime in California.
He could have poured Anthrax into the State water supply and they probably would have made him eat a hot pepper or something.
I think the best defense his lawyers could put up for an appeal would be discrimination. However, since his sentence is well within the law and he does owe a shitload of money it may not workout too well.
He should of plea bargained for a bunch of community service and donations or something. It is a clear cut case so I don’t know how he thought going to court would do him any good. Then again the prosecutors may not of wanted to plea bargain with him.
Oh well I don’t feel sorry, should of had his shit taken care of and he has been making shitty movies for years. Blade series really fucked over his career. Maybe when he gets out after 3 years he and Joe Rogan will finally have an MMA match.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
He fucked this one up by the numbers.[/quote]
He screwed the pooch for sure, but I think we still need to rally around Blade. Maybe we can stage a protest in front of the IRS or the White House.
hmmmm Let me go to work today.
Wow everybody is really upset that a guy who purposely broke the law, then flew to africa gets 3 years in jail.
Then the same people come to me and tell me they hope the black people in queens don’t get upset that some people who are supposed to uphold the law get no jail time for shooting a driver 51 times for trying to flee from men with guns.
What a FUCKED UP world.
The guy pays people to handle his finances, you can file taxes. Say they didn’t tell you, the government lets you know that you didn’t file and you fly away to AFRICA. Then you come back and instead of trying to make a deal, you go to trial? AFTER YOUR FOUND GUILTY you want to try to pay the government off? and this guy shouldn’t go to jail wtf?
Please show me these people that everybody says would not go to jail, if the irs came after them and they said fuck you.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
No, his big mistake was being a celebrity and not committing his crime in California.
He could have poured Anthrax into the State water supply and they probably would have made him eat a hot pepper or something.
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UL, you a fan of wwtdd?
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Successful and famous people better pay their taxes or else they will be made an example of. Don’t you know the more money one makes the more the government owns them? The US judges and prosecutors needs to make sure their retirements will be funded by the likes of Snipes and his non-taxpaying ilk. I wonder if Snipes was given a trial by a jury of his rich, black, tax-hating peers…?
The whole thing just makes my stomach churn with anger. Yet an other waste of taxpayer money putting people who commit victimless crimes in jail.
Fuck the IRS.[/quote]
Victimless? We are all victims. He should pay his fair share like the rest of us.
[quote]beebuddy wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
He fucked this one up by the numbers.
He screwed the pooch for sure, but I think we still need to rally around Blade. Maybe we can stage a protest in front of the IRS or the White House.[/quote]
I say let him sweat it out for a little while and then stage a plane crash and let him escape.
[quote]Airtruth wrote:
hmmmm Let me go to work today.
Wow everybody is really upset that a guy who purposely broke the law, then flew to africa gets 3 years in jail.
Then the same people come to me and tell me they hope the black people in queens don’t get upset that some people who are supposed to uphold the law get no jail time for shooting a driver 51 times for trying to flee from men with guns.
What a FUCKED UP world.
The guy pays people to handle his finances, you can file taxes. Say they didn’t tell you, the government lets you know that you didn’t file and you fly away to AFRICA. Then you come back and instead of trying to make a deal, you go to trial? AFTER YOUR FOUND GUILTY you want to try to pay the government off? and this guy shouldn’t go to jail wtf?
Please show me these people that everybody says would not go to jail, if the irs came after them and they said fuck you.
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I didn’t happen quite that way. He was fully aware of what he was doing and he hid in Africa to evade the long arm of the law.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Airtruth wrote:
hmmmm Let me go to work today.
Wow everybody is really upset that a guy who purposely broke the law, then flew to africa gets 3 years in jail.
Then the same people come to me and tell me they hope the black people in queens don’t get upset that some people who are supposed to uphold the law get no jail time for shooting a driver 51 times for trying to flee from men with guns.
What a FUCKED UP world.
The guy pays people to handle his finances, you can file taxes. Say they didn’t tell you, the government lets you know that you didn’t file and you fly away to AFRICA. Then you come back and instead of trying to make a deal, you go to trial? AFTER YOUR FOUND GUILTY you want to try to pay the government off? and this guy shouldn’t go to jail wtf?
Please show me these people that everybody says would not go to jail, if the irs came after them and they said fuck you.
I didn’t happen quite that way. He was fully aware of what he was doing and he hid in Africa to evade the long arm of the law. [/quote]
Thats my point. After you the IRS told him he didn’t file, he flew away to AFRICA and tried to stay there. He deserves jail. I’m sure he went to public school, and enjoyed many of the benefits of American tax dollars
[quote]Airtruth wrote:
Thats my point. After you the IRS told him he didn’t file, he flew away to AFRICA and tried to stay there. He deserves jail. I’m sure he went to public school, and enjoyed many of the benefits of American tax dollars
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He’s a political prisoner.
After he gets out, I’m going to see all his fucking movies.
[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
UtahLama wrote:
No, his big mistake was being a celebrity and not committing his crime in California.
He could have poured Anthrax into the State water supply and they probably would have made him eat a hot pepper or something.
UL, you a fan of wwtdd?[/quote]
Bauer my Man!!!
Durden is my go to!!
Nice to see you have good taste.
[quote]btm62 wrote:
I agree with Snipes. Taxes are bullshit. I would like to see the judge have to write a paper about why and what guidelines he used to sentence him. [/quote]
Lucky you. Judges are required to “write a paper” (just like high school). Here is a link to it explaining in excruciating detail why he sentenced Snipes to 3 years and how the sentence is consistent with the federal guidelines.
As an aside, the IRS doesn’t just decide one day to haul your ass in for criminal prosecution. Snipes’ years of foot dragging and asinine excuses (like paying taxes is unconstitutional) forced the issue. He could have resolved this years ago by paying the taxes, fines and penalties.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Victimless? We are all victims. He should pay his fair share like the rest of us.[/quote]
Because what the gov’t decides is fair, right?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Joe D. wrote:
It strikes me that DUI is far more serious crime than fraud.
Three years for this seems a bit over the top to me. You could hardly argue that by not giving him a prison term his influence as a role model would cause people to stop paying their tax.
“Making an example” is great when we are talking about crimes that actually influence other people. Tax fraud is hardly one of those crimes.
Agreed, espcially when he goes ahead and pays the full amount and more. A second offense after this I could see as meaning definite jail time.
This decision will just make more people hate law enforcement.[/quote]
I really doubt the US government cares if more people will hate law enforcement. They keep flexing there arm to see what they can get away with and nobody does anything. Just look at the Patriot Act.
You mother fuckers are sweating this worse than Wesley is.
Think about it, this man has a played a black ops agent in about 20 movies. He basically IS a black ops agent and this is obviously some type of operation to cloud his movements and send him into Syria to whack a couple political figures.
[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
I can think of many areas where that would do more good than trying to scare the general public into paying taxes by making an example of him.
I see more harm done socially by Lindsey Lohan than right here.
I agree 100%.
My hope is that this ‘making an example’ shit, which was mis-applied here, might actually be used against shit-holes like Lindsay or Amy Winehouse.
Highly unlikely, but this Snipes case is the first I’ve seen a celebrity actually get treated worse because of their celebrity status, so maybe.[/quote]
Nobody should be “made an example of”
All that means is giving someone an unfair punishment based on who they are rather than what they did. That’s complete bullshit even if the people in question are dumb sluts.
B. Leniency Would Result in Unwarranted Sentencing Disparity
The last valid tax return filed by Snipes was for tax year 1998. It is now 2008.
He has not filed tax returns for nearly a decade. Even if Snipes were to file his
delinquent returns and pay his tax debt prior to sentencing, such post-conviction acts
should not affect the conclusion that, to effectuate the purposes of sentencing, Snipes
should be sentenced to 36 months�?? imprisonment.
Granting Snipes leniency as a result
of his financial wherewithal to pay the tax would reinforce the perception that wealthy
and famous defendants can buy their way out of a prison sentence, and would promote
unwarranted disparity based upon socio-economic status. See United States v. Harpst,
949 F.2d 860, 863 (6th Cir. 1991); United States v. Seacott, 15 F.3d 1380, 1389 (7th
Cir. 1994).