[quote]ZEB wrote:
Biden will be the rabid attack dog tonight trying to make up for what his leader could not do. Ryan should stay on his toes and attack not Biden but Obama for being an ineffective President. God knows there is ample proof he only need to recite the facts. If they each do what they’re supposed to do this should be a draw. If one actually injures the other it may get some traction. Especially if Biden drops the kid. The MSLM will say “Uncle Joe Evens The Score” trying to raise Obama’s numbers. I doubt Ryan will fall for it but it’s possible…he’s young to be in such a position. Other than that I doubt any of this will matter that much by Monday morning.[/quote]
Let Joe come aggressively, he is known for some of his best gaffs when he is in that mindset.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Biden will be the rabid attack dog tonight trying to make up for what his leader could not do. Ryan should stay on his toes and attack not Biden but Obama for being an ineffective President. God knows there is ample proof he only need to recite the facts. If they each do what they’re supposed to do this should be a draw. If one actually injures the other it may get some traction. Especially if Biden drops the kid. The MSLM will say “Uncle Joe Evens The Score” trying to raise Obama’s numbers. I doubt Ryan will fall for it but it’s possible…he’s young to be in such a position. Other than that I doubt any of this will matter that much by Monday morning.[/quote]
Let Joe come aggressively, he is known for some of his best gaffs when he is in that mindset. [/quote]
Actually Max he has done most of his gaffes on the campaign trail where he was tired and most likely hungry as well. Tonight you will see a very rested and sharp Biden (I sure hope I’m wrong). And with most people thinking like you that he is going to make a mistake the expectation game has already been won by the democrats. But as I said if Ryan is smart enough to stay on his toes and attack Obama we can get out of this with no harm done. And that’s really all we need.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Biden will be the rabid attack dog tonight trying to make up for what his leader could not do. Ryan should stay on his toes and attack not Biden but Obama for being an ineffective President. God knows there is ample proof he only need to recite the facts. If they each do what they’re supposed to do this should be a draw. If one actually injures the other it may get some traction. Especially if Biden drops the kid. The MSLM will say “Uncle Joe Evens The Score” trying to raise Obama’s numbers. I doubt Ryan will fall for it but it’s possible…he’s young to be in such a position. Other than that I doubt any of this will matter that much by Monday morning.[/quote]
Let Joe come aggressively, he is known for some of his best gaffs when he is in that mindset. [/quote]
Actually Max he has done most of his gaffes on the campaign trail where he was tired and most likely hungry as well. Tonight you will see a very rested and sharp Biden (I sure hope I’m wrong). And with most people thinking like you that he is going to make a mistake the expectation game has already been won by the democrats. But as I said if Ryan is smart enough to stay on his toes and attack Obama we can get out of this with no harm done. And that’s really all we need.[/quote]
I have to believe that most people see Joe as a crotchety old man, similar to how McCain came off in 2008.
What’s that saying old people have ?..
Never trust a fart, never waste a hard-on, and never pass a bathroom.
Guy on the radio said he doesn’t see Biden going too hard. (Michael Graham http://michaelgraham.com/ worked on campaigns etc etc etc.)
Basically he agrees with ZEB that Biden is a formidable foe and not to have too high expectations, but on the other hand, if Biden comes out strong and even if he destroys Ryan, Romney can very easily use that against Obama, in that, how is the VP a better candidate for president that sitting POTUS.
Personally, I see Biden going hard, and I mean relentless at social issues, continuing the pretend war on women, and abortion abortion abortion. Because he can’t talk about the economy or numbers.
But yeah, Biden will win. The left (read the press) will make it seem like Hiroshima and Romney will try and spin it to his favor, and it might work.
Biden coming out sharp over libya. Ryan is stumbling over his words. Ryan probably trying to say too many things at the same time and not getting quite all of any of them said. He sounds young next to Biden right now. thats my take even though I agree with his stance.
[quote]maverick88 wrote:
Is Biden constantly doing that snarky laugh to get under Ryans skin or is he just an ass? I would probably have punched him in the mouth by now. [/quote]
Biden is overdoing it. Now he’s telling the moderator, whose allowed him to speak through Ryan’s response time, to “shoot straight” over a question about surge timelines.
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Biden is overdoing it. Now he’s telling the moderator, whose allowed him to speak through Ryan’s response time, to “shoot straight” over a question about surge timelines.[/quote]
She has been letting both of them talk through on the other’s time, as well as bicker back and forth too much. She has been pretty fair overall as far as what questions she is asking, but she needs to be more assertive and uphold the rules of the debate as far as who gets to talk when.