Voddie Baucham Why I Choose to Believe the Bible Part 5

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Lover95 wrote:
Is the eucharist the literal flesh of chirst, or is it just a metaphor?[/quote]

WTF?

Absolutely, it’s literal. On the third day Mary tore strips of flesh off Christ. That’s what the priests put in our mouths at communion. The reason there is such a decline in Church attendance is that we are running out of genuine Christ meat.[/quote]

No, this is not true.

If it was we would be cannibals, even though we have been accused of being cannibals and I have a drinking team named the Catholic Cannibals, it is not actually true that Catholics are cannibals. Under the appearance of bread and wine it is the ENTIRE body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus. We are not eating pieces of Jesus, we are consuming the entire body and blood of Jesus.[/quote]

Sarcasm detector not working today?[/quote]

Guess you didn’t get my sarcasm in the Catholic Cannibals comment.[/quote]

I think it’s a good name. You are correct that we have been accused of cannibalism. See Geraldis Cambransis’s ‘Topography of Ireland’. We used to eat babies and turn sticks into snakes with black magic apparently.[/quote]

The Romans used to think we’d drink our enemies blood during our masses. So, Catholics have no shortages of rumors from the beginning. Although I think the locked door policy after the homily would be a good tool. Make the pagans think we’re back to our old tricks of eating our enemies.

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[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Lover95 wrote:
Is the eucharist the literal flesh of chirst, or is it just a metaphor?[/quote]

WTF?

Absolutely, it’s literal. On the third day Mary tore strips of flesh off Christ. That’s what the priests put in our mouths at communion. The reason there is such a decline in Church attendance is that we are running out of genuine Christ meat.[/quote]

No, this is not true.

If it was we would be cannibals, even though we have been accused of being cannibals and I have a drinking team named the Catholic Cannibals, it is not actually true that Catholics are cannibals. Under the appearance of bread and wine it is the ENTIRE body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus. We are not eating pieces of Jesus, we are consuming the entire body and blood of Jesus.[/quote]

Sarcasm detector not working today?[/quote]

Guess you didn’t get my sarcasm in the Catholic Cannibals comment.[/quote]

I think it’s a good name. You are correct that we have been accused of cannibalism. See Geraldis Cambransis’s ‘Topography of Ireland’. We used to eat babies and turn sticks into snakes with black magic apparently.[/quote]

The Romans used to think we’d drink our enemies blood during our masses. So, Catholics have no shortages of rumors from the beginning. Although I think the locked door policy after the homily would be a good tool. Make the pagans think we’re back to our old tricks of eating our enemies.[/quote]

Sounds like a good idea. We don’t hear enough about the ‘Popish plots’ these days. The Zionists, Illuminati and Freemasons get all the attention.

RE Cambrasis. Although initially written merely to denigrate the Irish, this book gained widespread popularity after the birth of Protestantism and was used to denigrate Catholics and Catholicism. It was still being taken seriously, quoted and used as a contemporary source in the 19th Century by British historians including Macaulay.

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You ever read Roman Catholicism, makes me want to pick up a pen and start writing “factual” books if that’s all it takes to write a “factual” book. I think there might be a handful of legitimate sources, but I can’t actually find where in the book they are quoting from and when I do…out of context. I mean I quote out of context Psalm 14 and prove that there is no G-d and the bible says so.

I always found that Protestant Irish people to be self-loathing to a degree, quite interesting studying Protestantism in Ireland. I mean seriously St. Patrick saved our asses, and you’re going to turn face and kick dirt in the man’s face while you’re at it? Freakin’ narrow backs. Although they do make for nice pipe lighters with that orange hair (I love redheads, but I tell you what, that Irish orange does a scenery no good).

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I heard a good explanation for why women cannot become priests…because Jesus did not give authority to the Church to ordain women.

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[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
You ever read Roman Catholicism, makes me want to pick up a pen and start writing “factual” books if that’s all it takes to write a “factual” book. I think there might be a handful of legitimate sources, but I can’t actually find where in the book they are quoting from and when I do…out of context. I mean I quote out of context Psalm 14 and prove that there is no G-d and the bible says so.

I always found that Protestant Irish people to be self-loathing to a degree, quite interesting studying Protestantism in Ireland. I mean seriously St. Patrick saved our asses, and you’re going to turn face and kick dirt in the man’s face while you’re at it? Freakin’ narrow backs. Although they do make for nice pipe lighters with that orange hair (I love redheads, but I tell you what, that Irish orange does a scenery no good). [/quote]

Haven’t read it. I’ve read a bit on the early Christian church though. Tacitus and Suetonius provide some interesting information.

The history of Ireland is too depressing for me. Most people aren’t aware of the true extent of British atrocities. It is also a complex thing for me as I admire the British and Churchill. Churchill was largely responsible for forming the black and tans of course.

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[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
I heard a good explanation for why women cannot become priests…because Jesus did not give authority to the Church to ordain women.[/quote]

Since when has Christianity needed an explanation for anything? :wink:

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
You ever read Roman Catholicism, makes me want to pick up a pen and start writing “factual” books if that’s all it takes to write a “factual” book. I think there might be a handful of legitimate sources, but I can’t actually find where in the book they are quoting from and when I do…out of context. I mean I quote out of context Psalm 14 and prove that there is no G-d and the bible says so.

I always found that Protestant Irish people to be self-loathing to a degree, quite interesting studying Protestantism in Ireland. I mean seriously St. Patrick saved our asses, and you’re going to turn face and kick dirt in the man’s face while you’re at it? Freakin’ narrow backs. Although they do make for nice pipe lighters with that orange hair (I love redheads, but I tell you what, that Irish orange does a scenery no good). [/quote]

Haven’t read it. [/quote]

If you want to find out where 95% of all anti-catholic literature stems from…read that.

[quote]I’ve read a bit on the early Christian church though. Tacitus and Suetonius provide some interesting information.

The history of Ireland is too depressing for me. Most people aren’t aware of the true extent of British atrocities. It is also a complex thing for me as I admire the British and Churchill. Churchill was largely responsible for forming the black and tans of course.[/quote]

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
I heard a good explanation for why women cannot become priests…because Jesus did not give authority to the Church to ordain women.[/quote]

Since when has Christianity needed an explanation for anything? ;-)[/quote]

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[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
You ever read Roman Catholicism, makes me want to pick up a pen and start writing “factual” books if that’s all it takes to write a “factual” book. I think there might be a handful of legitimate sources, but I can’t actually find where in the book they are quoting from and when I do…out of context. I mean I quote out of context Psalm 14 and prove that there is no G-d and the bible says so.

I always found that Protestant Irish people to be self-loathing to a degree, quite interesting studying Protestantism in Ireland. I mean seriously St. Patrick saved our asses, and you’re going to turn face and kick dirt in the man’s face while you’re at it? Freakin’ narrow backs. Although they do make for nice pipe lighters with that orange hair (I love redheads, but I tell you what, that Irish orange does a scenery no good). [/quote]

Haven’t read it. [/quote]

If you want to find out where 95% of all anti-catholic literature stems from…read that.

[quote]I’ve read a bit on the early Christian church though. Tacitus and Suetonius provide some interesting information.

The history of Ireland is too depressing for me. Most people aren’t aware of the true extent of British atrocities. It is also a complex thing for me as I admire the British and Churchill. Churchill was largely responsible for forming the black and tans of course.[/quote]
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‘Roman Catholicism’ - Who’s the author?

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
You ever read Roman Catholicism, makes me want to pick up a pen and start writing “factual” books if that’s all it takes to write a “factual” book. I think there might be a handful of legitimate sources, but I can’t actually find where in the book they are quoting from and when I do…out of context. I mean I quote out of context Psalm 14 and prove that there is no G-d and the bible says so.

I always found that Protestant Irish people to be self-loathing to a degree, quite interesting studying Protestantism in Ireland. I mean seriously St. Patrick saved our asses, and you’re going to turn face and kick dirt in the man’s face while you’re at it? Freakin’ narrow backs. Although they do make for nice pipe lighters with that orange hair (I love redheads, but I tell you what, that Irish orange does a scenery no good). [/quote]

Haven’t read it. [/quote]

If you want to find out where 95% of all anti-catholic literature stems from…read that.

[quote]I’ve read a bit on the early Christian church though. Tacitus and Suetonius provide some interesting information.

The history of Ireland is too depressing for me. Most people aren’t aware of the true extent of British atrocities. It is also a complex thing for me as I admire the British and Churchill. Churchill was largely responsible for forming the black and tans of course.[/quote]
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‘Roman Catholicism’ - Who’s the author?[/quote]

Loraine Boettner - http://www.amazon.com/Roman-Catholicism-Loraine-Boettner/dp/0875520928

Here is a link talking about the book: The Anti-Catholic Bible | Catholic Answers

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I have no doubt that most Catholic objections come from this book. I have a solution now for all objections. I carry a Catechism and ask them to show me where it says that.

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Thanks. Will look into it.

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[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
I have no doubt that most Catholic objections come from this book. I have a solution now for all objections. I carry a Catechism and ask them to show me where it says that.[/quote]Chris, that book was written like 50 years ago if I remember right. Never read it. I did read Beottner’s “Reformed Doctrine of Predestination” and The Reformed Faith. I promise you that at least for me 95 plus percent of everything I say is my own conclusions based on reading source copy. That goes for everything. I learned Watchtower stuff from their books and magazines, LDS beliefs from their scriptures and publications, theological liberalism from the books and articles of Bultmann, Barth, Tillich, the Brunners etc (including Teilhard de Chardin, Schillebeeckx and especially Hans Kung who was all lovey dovey with the “protestant” liberals of the early and mid 20th century). This idea that only propagandized retards object to catholicism is just wrong though maybe you do think I’m a propagandized retard.

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
I have no doubt that most Catholic objections come from this book. I have a solution now for all objections. I carry a Catechism and ask them to show me where it says that.[/quote]Chris, that book was written like 50 years ago if I remember right. Never read it. I did read Beottner’s “Reformed Doctrine of Predestination” and The Reformed Faith. I promise you that at least for me 95 plus percent of everything I say is my own conclusions based on reading source copy. That goes for everything. I learned Watchtower stuff from their books and magazines, LDS beliefs from their scriptures and publications, theological liberalism from the books and articles of Bultmann, Barth, Tillich, the Brunners etc (including Teilhard de Chardin, Schillebeeckx and especially Hans Kung who was all lovey dovey with the “protestant” liberals of the early and mid 19th century). This idea that only propagandized retards object to catholicism is just wrong though maybe you do think I’m a propagandized retard.
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I’ll say this…there is a big difference between current day objections and what I read on the objections from Luther and Calvin, mostly thinking about Luther here. There is a saying that I heard and it goes, ‘My only wish for heretics, is that they’d go back to their masters, at least they knew doctrine and history.’

I’ll say here, you do not rise to the level of heresy, that is to put it mildly. I don’t say this to insult you, but to show you a point. Most of your ‘conclusions’ that you have divulged are based on erroneous opinion of doctrine and not on the actual doctrine.

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Gimme a couple examples. I’m asking honestly.

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Dr Voddie is coming to our church later this month. Should be a real blessing.

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Just got back from seeing Dr. Voddie speak at our church on the abominable state of public education. Actually, the abomination OF public education, at least the way we do it now. Oh man, we had some walkouts from other (liberal) churches. Here we have a black man absolutely blasting, both barrels, big government socialism AND especially the teachers unions. I mean ta tell ya. KABOOM!!! I don’t have the audio yet, but when I do I’ll post it for kneedragger who seems to like this guy even though he believes everything I do. Yep, he is a good 5 point T.U.L.I.P. boy. I have a great sermon of his on “limited atonement”. Here’s a folder full of his messages.